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>> judge: that's why we have attorneys for them. there are states that say you commit this kind of crime, you are treated -- let's assume they're treated as juveniles. they come out at 21. where are they going then? >> hopefully the system works. hopefully in that time, that -- come on, we have to believe in our system. >> judge: you want him at your house. >> of course not and -- >> judge: so then we let them out at 21, that's the problem. >> hopefully in that 11 years, they get the therapy and medication they need and by the way, you know, the system is all about rehabilitation. >> judge: do you think he can be raughted? >> i would hope so. surely he has a screw loose. they don't even understand what that means, spending the rest of their life in jail. >> judge: the next story makes my blood boil. a mother of a 7-year-old girl, missing since 1968, is ordered to pay something like $80,000, legal fees, to a sadistic child
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in november, police were called to investigate child abuse when kalix accused julie of slapping her in the face. julie hit her daughter, she had said, because taking privileges away wasn't working. no charges were filed. >> they seemed like a loving family, just having typical teen issues. >> then julie got into an accident rear ending another car. officers at the scene say her eyes looked glazed and her speech slured. but julie left the hospital before police could do a blood test. her husband did not attend his wife's court hearing, and a police spokesman says it does not appear he will be supporting julie. wednesday the community held a memorial for the children. their father, home from the middle east spoke about his loss. >> the family and i are humbled by your support, grace
which submarines the idea of her being legally insane as opposed to mentally insane. let me ask you one final question. as a prosecutor i have tried these cases and tried insanity defense cases and juries don't buy them, number one. but on an emotional side, the father lost two kids, but it was the wife and mother who did it. how does he cope? >> it sounds trite but it takes time to get perspective. he will need to find a belief system. maybe in a higher power or purpose. or maybe it is that things happen for no good reason. maybe it was a medical illness that she was untreated with a medical illness. >> thank you for your input on our report. still to come, a muslim cleric arrested for trying to enter the united states in the trunk of a are ka. find out what was on his agenda, next on "justice."
estate up in big bear. >> judge: all right. let me describe this to you. apparently there are dogs in the backyard. there is eggs left on the counter. and they love these dogs. they had $90,000 in the bank. he was a successful businessman. i mean, this makes no sense. how do people vanish into thin air? is there any reason to believe that they weren't getting along, susan, any problems between them that you know of? >> i feel if there were any problems, my son would come openly and talk to me about it. and he did ask for a counselor to find a good one for the family after christmas, that he needed to get his life a little back together. i thought it was possibly because they moved from the beach inland from surfing and, you know, quite a lot of adjustments there. >> judge: that's an interesting comment, michael, that your mother made, that he wanted the name of some counselor. you spoke to your brother on a
they vanished on january 27, someone did an internet search for passport requirements for adults and children entering mexico. but why would the mcstays unexpectedly leave the country? family members now think the mystery might be solved closer to home. joseph's mother, susan blake, and his brother, michael, join us, along with the investigator in this case, detective troy. now, detective, can you tell us what the latest is in this case? >> i got some credit card receipts from ross department stores in the local area that indicate that somebody used the mcstay credit card at a ross store in vista. >> judge: what was purchased? >> there was two beach bags, four infant sleepers, terry cloth sleepers, and a jacket. inexpensive jacket. >> judge: i'm going to ask, as
shot her one time in the back of the head and then one time in the front of the head. we ended up finding her body in an upstairs bedroom. so sometime over the night she moved her daughter from that desk to a bed and youered her up with a blanket. >> we understand she left two notes in the house. can you tell us what was in those notes? >> she actually left several ♪ tes. the first one was her plan. she was detailing how she she was planning to carry out the crimes and she was detailing she planned to kill herself. the second note was chilling. it was written after the children were dead. it was very matter of fact, very devoid of emotion. not what you would expect the words of a mother. she is in a very matter of fact way described the way she took the lives of her children. >> so it doesn't appear there was any remorse here, "my kids are dead."
that she planned to kill her children and to take her own life. >> judge: julie bought the murder weapon five days before the crime. on january 26, while driving her son to soccer practice, she took the 38 hand gun out of her purse and shot her 13-year-old son at point-blank range. then julie drove back to their home, parked the suv with her son's body still in the passenger seat, and went inside to find her daughter. 16-year-old girl was working at her computer when julie shot her. >> appeared that the children never saw it coming. >> judge: they're father was serving abroad in qatar at the time of the killings. >> really shaken me to the core. i want to go get my kids and hold on this them. >> judge: friends and neighbors are in shock. how can this happen to a seemingly perfect family? there were clues that things were unraveling in julie's life. in november, police were called
individual, did not have the apparent capacity to give potentially credible testimony. they didn't compel him. >> judge: the mother wanted it. i am law enforcement and who are we protecting? as far as i'm concerned, she's the mother -- it's about the victim. >> i sympathize it. >> judge: we got another disturbing story here. we got to move on. a mother in pittsburgh allows a sex offender to live in her home with her three children. she is now charged with three counts of endangering the welfare of her children. good charges? >> no, not good charges. >> judge: why? >> because she didn't commit any crime. he's not charged with endangering her children. >> judge: he can't be, he's not a parent. >> he's not charged with endangering her children. he's charged with not registering. and all she knew was this man who she became --
time in the back of the head and then one time in the front of the head. we ended up finding her body in an upstairs bedroom, so we know that sometime over the night, she moved her daughter from that desk to a bed and covered her up with a blanket. >> judge: all right. we understand that she left two notes in the house. can you tell us what was in those notes? >> she actually left several notes. the first one was her plan. she was detailing how she was planning to carry out the crimes and she also was detailing she planned to kill herself. the second note was very chilling. it was written after the children were dead and it was very matter of task, very devoid of emotion. not what you would expect the words of a mother. she's in a very matter of fact way described how she took the lives of her children. >> judge: so it doesn't appear that there was any remorse here, my kids are dead, i shot them,