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do you agree with him? >> i think the two viewpoints. one, if we do not pass something that the electric will get angry and on the elect republicans. the other possibility, and this is what i adhere to. if you pass it does not work on the leaves and the obama death spiral, ryan-care. that is a disaster as well. doing nothing is not the worst-case scenario. i think passing a bad bill that leaves and place the obamacare mandate in the death spiral of obamacare. that is the worst of all possible scenarios. >> bill: should you blow off the august recess? >> i think we should get our work done, as soon as possible in the next three weeks. i think august 1st should be the deadline appeared less good it before august. >> bill: if it goes into august, will you be cool with that? >> i will do whatever it takes to do the work we need to do, but i think the work ought to be done last week lets us waiting
to you. this is going quickly south here, katie. let me take you back this is the dn see chair, tom perez. >> i don't care. they don't give a blank about people! >> trump care, ryan care, i'll tell you when i call it. i don't care, because of those republican leaders and president trump, don't give a blank about the people they were trying to help. >> bill: if you want to get on tv, mission accomplished, but that was the root of romney mcdaniel's comment. >> i think tom perez should be more concerned about getting booed his own dnc rallies then calling republicans names and using profanity to make a point. this is a lazy, old argument that the democrats have been making and why they have been
doesn't mind this thing dieing. i think he doesn't mind going to plan b, which is the health care bill we have now, obamacare will have -- whatever weaknesses they have he'll work on those. he'll watch the system deteriorate, weaken, die in some place through lack of insurers. he'll say, it's the democrats. >> he can get away with it. the reason why, when obama came up with his health care plan, the affordable care act, this is being called obamacare. ryan care, mcconnell care. if it fails, it's not on him. it's not trump care. this is the failure of the democrats because the democrats should be all over calling this nothing but trump care. trump care. you about they won't do it. >> i think that's an oxymoron, by the way, trump care. thank you. thank you for reporting. last week president trump accused republicans of passing a tax cut, not a health care bill. president trump was asked about
reform, or health reform. what gets tackled first? >> i think tax reform in some ways need to be tackled first. in some ways you have to deal with it that ceiling. he's got to get tax reform done. if that is critical. as john points out, it took 14 months or more, 17 months by some copulations for obamacare to get put in place. there is a hybrid solution, as john is perhaps adjusting. as you can see, ryan care is not doing so well right now. i think that's going to take longer. i think they have to deal with tax issues first, and then with health care, and eventually infrastructure. >> heather: john west and mark >> i think they have to do tax reform, and they have to do regular order with the budget, but we can't lose sight of the big picture. when republicans talk about sequence, they talk about how things have to go in the process, they take the focus off of people. the reason president trump one is because he had a narrative
split? single digit win, did people flip and vote for the democrat? strong likely republican voters or was there attrition where people did not show up wet early voted? >> i'm not sure how democrats will be able to spin this as a positive thing if they lose because it's not even a midterm. it's the midterm of a midterm sort of election. and you have, the left is very vocal right now. they are very energized. they hate donald trump. the resistance movement is a very real. they are raising money. if they can't win. obviously montana is a pretty republican state but it's not totally hostile to democrats. democrats can win there, and if they can't win in this environment when there is so much vitriol towards donald trump and republicans right now, they are facing serious problems in these town hall meetings about the trumpcare, ryan care, whatever
>> meghan: meanwhile, democrats are ramping up their use of profanity rhetoric as a party attempts to unite over a brutal election season. tom perez raising eyebrows after making a speech and cursing. watch. >> he does not want anything branded trump care, but may be ryan care. i call it i don't care because he doesn't give a [bleep] about health care and my mama taught me you shouldn't use potty talk, but i hope you don't mind, because this is a [bleep] budget. those republican leaders of president trump don't give a [bleep] about who they are trying to hurt. that's what i say. >> meghan: old man. he used a language saying i'm always amused at the republicans reaction when they hear the word [bleep] out of tom perez. talk about ridiculous.
you coming back on items that we can agree more. >> just a disagreement. still ahead on "morning joe" -- >> now trump wants his name on everything. trump towers, trump states, but when it came to health care, he didn't want trump care. what do we call it? trump care, ryan care? i'll tell you my idea. because you know what embodies their program? i don't care. [ bleep ]. >> i can't understand what he said but -- >> that was dnc chairman tom perez speaking friday. he joins the conversation straight ahead.
♪ ♪ >> donald trump, you don't stand for our values. that's what they said. donald trump, you didn't win this election. when it dime healthcare, -- you lost healthcare. so what do we call it? trump care. we call it ryan care. i will tell you my idea because you know what elm bodies their program? i don't care. [cheers and applause] [bleep] steve: forget about going high. the new dnc chair tom perez says donald trump didn't win the election and republicans don't care about people. abby: here to respond rnc chair woman rhona romney mcdamaged. good to have you here. >> thanks for having me. >> what's your reaction? >> i think it's deeply concerning to seat head of the democratic party continue to try to delegitimize this election. not only president trump who did win this election by a
all of us need to respect that. if we were able to do that, we can come together and pass a bill that will be meaningful. arthel: congressman, what i meant by asking if you think the president should be more hands-on in terms of policymaking, you are right. he's done a good job in terms of inviting people to the white house, many of those who have not gotten as invitations before. but there have been reports that he was involved in the dealmaking, handshake and if he will comment that not really the sausage making. that is what i'm talking about. the actual issues involved in the health care bills. >> well, he has a lot of smart people around him. when you're president of the united states coming to hire a lot of smart to stand next to you. arthel: but then you can say this is ryan care. he's got to own it is going to have smart people around him. >> he does own it. what is done is take the advice of multiple people. an advisement fix the counsel of many people i think you've done
president of the united states claims detail. you could be one of those announcers for the movie sequel where you're like this. i was scary. final thought. >> listen, i lived through this. this is history repeating itself. hopeful think is a learning moment for president trump. he should not allow the house leadership to draft the legislation because it trnd out to be a disaster. the ryan care bill was not a repeal and replace bill. it was not something that conservatives liked. and they tried -- very much the president tried to force conservatives and bully them into supporting something. well, house caucusing and conservatives will be a great ally when the president pushes conservative legislation. so stop letting the leadership write the legislation for you. do it yourself. >> right. and that will be relevant to so many upcoming issues.