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Special counsel, special counsel, special counsel. simone, is this going to harm the campaign more personally? resident biden, you can talk to him about this. do you think this is harmful? i think this is something that president biden is being talked to about. the question is, is it a big roundtable conversation? i would argue to say, no. if you look at the poll right after the plea deal that fell apart, the plea deal that was announced for hunter biden. americans were pulled and asked, they view this as a personal issue for hunter and not an issue for president biden. right now it is not actually affecting the way people are considering voting in 24. brandon, you can t help but watch all this play out. donald trump has been trying to bring biden s brand down to him. he goes back to 2018. he s been desperate. and he did it. it is joe biden s attorney general the just announced the investigation. it s basic politics.
Legal for the private sector government to try and make numbers become reflective of the population, or at least be competitive. and this is a real critical case. according to the atlanta general constitution, your firm has invested more than 40 companies found by women of color in the last four years. obviously, having black women at the forefront is central to what fearless fund does. how, do you as black women entrepreneurs, react to the suggestion that what you are trying to do is discriminatory, it s a civil rights violation, they are trying to say? miss simone, you first, and then miss parsons. the reaction is simple. there is clearly a reason why we are doing this work, it s because there is a need. and we would continue to do this work, the statistics are
Conservative group. joining me now is simone, and oh jana part foods. both are with me tonight, they are the cofounders of the fearless fund. thank you both for joining us tonight. thank you. thank you for having us. now, let me begin by asking you, they are saying that your venture capital fund, fearless fund, was sued at the atlantic district court by the american alliance for equal rights, founded by an anti affirmative action activist named edward bloom, whose work was instrumental in the supreme court decision earlier this summer that really gutted affirmative action. this group claims, a 20,000-dollar grant program, you administer four times a year, violates an 1866 civil
Rights act, banning racial discrimination in contracts. starting with you, miss simone, can you tell our audience about the purpose of your program? yes. at the fearless fund, we are the first venture capital fund that is built by women of color, for women of color. our thesis is, that if we invest in women of color cofounders, and the program you re referring to is a program with ourselves, and mastercard, that administers grants to african american business owners, that are female. now, miss parsons, this firm is designed to help, primarily black women, close the gap in terms of their presence in the venture capital world. the man behind a lawsuit against, you edward bloom, said this week that, quote, so far, all that has been asserted in defense of this racially exclusive and illegal program are meaningless clichés, unquote. meaningless clichés, how do you
What he s put forth in the public and what they ve said their barometer is for dealing with this department of justice. i think there are two things at play here. one, the treatment of his son, his only surviving son, and then number two, the freedom that he believes that the department of justice, and independent department of justice, should have to do their work. now, i guess the last thing i will notice there are folks out here saying, oh, hunter biden is getting special treatment. joe biden really needs the answer for the special treatment at this time. i, mean the man is literally under investigation. he got a special counsel. yes, exactly. that is the special treatment. tim miller, symone sanders-townsend, thank you my friends. simone s show airs right here on msnbc every saturday and sunday at four pm eastern. really appreciate you guys. that is our show for tonight. now it s time for the last word with who is in for lawrence. good evening, jonathan. good evening, alex. we will keep the conversation going about special counsel jack smith, have a good rest of
Reality, simone. i do want to talk to you about hunter biden and how the republican candidates are of course easing on the news that he s going to be investigated by special counsel, the same person who s been investigating it for the last five years. this is going to be a campaign issue. what do democrats, what does biden do about? it it is going to come up. that s, far they have not wanted to weigh in on either special councils. the one trump is dealing with, or the one that joe biden s son is going to have to deal with. i kind of wonder what you think will have to happen now. alex, look, i think that especially now that a special counsel has been appointed in the hunter biden case, i think this just upped the ante, we will not hear from president biden on this. except for maybe an interview where he is pressed, and even at the interviewer will have to decide if they will go back when he is giving the same answer, i think the place where we are going to see this really unfold is next year on the debate stage where joe biden is
South carolina senator tim scott, who has not yet arrived at the state fair, is tripling the former vice president right now. he is at 9% in the latest poll. governor ron desantis is at 20%. but everyone, all of them, they are all absolutely dwarfed by the man who will be showing up at the fair tomorrow, thrice indicted, former president donald trump. i m joined now by tim miller, writer at large host of simone right here on msnbc, thank you both for being here. tim, let me just start with you, since you ve logged a lot of time in republican circles here. it just strikes me how dramatically worse this landscape is going to keep getting for mike pence, who is going to likely be the star witness in a federal case involving his former running mate. what happens then given where mike pence is at now? i m not sure if his campaign can get much worse, alex. so who knows. maybe there is a surprise
i m glad they didn t hang you. and that was the greeting that former vice president mike pence received at the iowa state fair this week. can you call it a greeting if it involves a suggested death threat? pence did the best he could to gin up enthusiasm for himself by flipping patties and eating a pork burger in the pork tent. admittedly, it is hard out there when you are only polling at 3% in the first of the nation caucus state. south carolina senator tim scott, who has not yet arrived at the state fair, is trickling the former vice president right now. he is at 9% in the latest poll. governor ron desantis is at 20%. but everyone, all of them, they are all absolutely dwarfed by the man who will be showing up at the fair tomorrow, thrice indicted, former president donald trump. i m joined now by tim miller, writer at large host of simone right here on
Offers none of the hardheaded culture war stuff that they like? i don t think so. then you get a candidate from who i think is really singing from the maga him book. he will not be able to get any of the old establishment types, a 37 year old guy spreading a bunch of 9/11 conspiracies is not the way to win the establishment republican vote. he was the bridge candidate, desantis, and he has not been good at walking across, it to go with the metaphor. those are the three guys and none of them seemed particularly well positioned, which is why trump seems so strong. yeah, i mean, trump s strength here is impervious to reality, simone. i do want to talk to you about hunter biden and how the republican candidates are of course easing on the news that he s going to be investigated by special counsel, the same person who s been investigating it for the last five years. this is going to be a campaign issue. what do democrats, what does biden do about? it it is going to come up. that s, far they have not wanted to weigh in on either special councils. the one trump is dealing with, or the one that joe biden s son is going to have to deal with. i kind of wonder what you think will have to happen now. alex, look, i think that especially now that a special counsel has been appointed in