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right, is really, you're being an activist court. you have people who are not elected who are making decisions, and that's highly problematic and highly troubling. yes, we have a separation of branches, jim. we have to respect that. but we have programs that the government implements every day that we depend upon our federal agencies, like this one, to implement. now, they're going to say congress didn't grant that broad of authority. if congress wanted to circumscribe or limit what you do, use different words. don't use modify or waive. it's getting to the point where i don't want to overstate it, but are we recognizing the country we live in based on the rulings? first abortion and now this, what is next? it is troubling and disappointing as a lawyer and as a person. >> the court says it'll take up a major gun rights case in its next term, as well. joey jackson, always good to have you break it down. the biden administration has been bracing for today's decision, spending months prepping contingency plans on

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>> which has been something we've heard a lot from this court, a matter for congress, not the executive branch. let's talk about the other case here, though. this on wedding websites. in effect, giving a business the ability not to build a website for a same-sex couple. the court arguing, the conservative majority, i should say, arguing this was not about discrimination but purely about free expression. how did they make that point? >> exactly. it was an interesting argument, that this wedding website designer brought. she said, you are violating my free speech by this colorado law that says you can't discriminate against people for their sexual orientation. she twisted that. again, we've seen very clever legal arguments that have made big changes in the past few years. she said it's violating my free speech. the justices seized on that and said, you are correct. this public accommodations law in colorado violates your free speech, and this will have a ripple effect in public accommodations laws throughout the country. it remains to be seen what the fallout is going to be. >> the question is, and by the

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decisions that have guided this country for decades. last year's ruling on abortion and now this week's decisions on affirmative action in college admissions, limiting lgbtq+ rights, dramatically changing how america is governed. our supreme court analyst is here now to discuss. big picture, what do you make of these conservative legal victories? it strikes me that the justices from the conservative majority, they feel empowered here to overturn a series of decisions that they know will have an enormous effect on this country and for millions of americans. >> jim, they definitely are empowered. the difference between a 5-4 court we had for many, many decades and a 6-3 court that we have now is so much more than a single vote. they do feel more empowered. you named several cases from last year and this term, but there have been others. restricting the environmental protection agency's power. last year around this time, it was similar to the themes we saw

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developments and more, all coming in here to cnn news center. the supreme court wrapped up its term today with a bang. a pair of rulings that will impact americans for years to come. one immediately affects the pocketbooks of some 40 million americans. the court scrapped president biden's student loan forgiveness plan, a decision with a $400 billion impact. we are awaiting remarks from president biden. he is expected to announce what he hopes will be new actions on student debt in response to this court decision. the other case finds the conservative majority ruling a christian designer can deny wedding services to a same-sex couple. both decisions 6-3. jessica snide schneider is here. let's begin on the student let case. made its way through the system

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discriminate. it should be viewed as a very narrow decision that only applies to original custom goods and services. so, i mean, yes, it does mean that a website designer can refuse to create a custom website for a gay couple, but they cannot refuse to offer a standard designer template website to the same couple. it does mean that a photographer could refuse to give a custom engagement sex to an inter-faith couple, but it does not mean the same photographer can allow the inter-faith couple to not have access to a standard package. we should view this as narrowly. bigger than that, we should take it as an idcatndication of what court is doing, rolling back rights. it is opening the door for discrimination in this country to advance. >> earlier this month, it was declared a national state of emergency for members of the lgbtq+ community. would this ruling be as worrisome to you, as problematic, if it were not in the midst of what we are seeing

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was she? >> i'm surprised you're even asking that in the sense that she was harmed. colorado has been the most aggressive state -- >> she hadn't started the business. >> she had started the business, and she wanted to go in to design custom wedding websites. >> she wasn't penalize bid the state for this. she hadn't experienced harm yet. >> her speech was chilled. she couldn't enter into the business because colorado consistently, not just against her, but like-minded individuals, because they would punish, excessively punish, those who would express this view and decline to express a view that supports same-sex marriage. colorado is notorious. surely you've heard of masterpiece cake shop. >> i worked in colorado when it was happening and spoke to the key players. you were part of the case, as well. >> i was. >> is there a campaign on behalf of folks within your organization to target the rights of lgbtq people? >> there's a campaign on behalf of alliance defending freedom to protect free speech for everyone. the court's decision today said that public accommodation laws

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will continue to apply, that they've co-existed with the first amendment for decades, and people won't be denied access to goods and services. and we will protect the rights of free speech, including those who support same-sex marriage. >> i'm curious about a perspective that was brought about in the dissent from justice sotomayor. your client believes that marriage should remain between a man and a woman. there are creators out there who believe that marriage should remain between people of the same race. would you argue on behalf of folks who do not believe in interracial marriage, because it is their point of view of the world? >> i would not argue on their behalf, and that's a reprehensible view. i think what is important here to remember, though, is that's not the facts of the case the court decided today. the court said if it is clear that a speaker is distinguishing on the basis of a message they're being asked to create, that they can't be compelled by the government to express a message.

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that. i think beyond the courts is the everyday interaction now that we as people and going out to society have to deal with. are there going to be places that limit who they serve and how they serve and what they serve, saying, hey, it's my constitutional right. it's a form of expression, whether i should seat you. it's a form of expression, whether i should produce a website that includes you and is inclusive of you and what you're about. it is troubling along so many lines. the bottom line as i noted, and i'll end with what i started with, we regulate speech, commercial speech, can't be false or misleading. so many things we regulate because your rights have to stop -- or not stop, but they have to certainly account for others. when we start doing things that impair other people's rights, we have to draw lines. this line is drawn in a way that i think is misguided. elections have consequences. we know what the composition of the court is, and this is the result of that, jim. >> let me ask about the student loan forgiveness thing. the conserve ative justices her

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very quickly, a challenge to an existing policy here to get to this conclusion today. was this expected from the conservative court? >> it was. the biden administration faced severe criticism, pushback from the conservative members of this court during argument. their arguments were exactly what was reflected in the opinion. you know, as a measure of fairness. why some people paid back student loans and now you're giving a free pass to others? also, the expanse of the heros act. it allows the secretary of education to act in emergency situations when it comes to student loans. the court here saying, you acted in too broad of a manner. the statute never intended for this. it is a $400 billion price tag, and the court said that is just too large for you to act on your own. >> the heros act goes back to the wake of 9/11, right? >> exactly. >> the argument is, you are stretching what that was intended to act with student loan forgiveness. >> they're saying it was a matter for congress, not the executive branch. the program has been scrapped.

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will face charges. he could be an unindicted coconspirator. it's just not clear. we know a lot of questions being asked of witnesses about him, what he say doing on january 6th, in the days leading up to january 6th and after. unclear if he'll be charged. we're also awaiting a decision in georgia. it does appear possible he'll be charged, but we'll wait for fani willis to make the announcement. >> and heez are just the criminal case. they don't mention the civil matters. >> i would be here all day. >> we appreciate you joining us for the time you were here. thank you so much. >> so we are keeping an eye on the white house. president biden will soon address today's major supreme court rulings. we'll be bringing that to you as soon as it happens. stay with us. are you tired of clean clothes that just don't smell clean? downy unstopables in-wash scent boosters

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