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chair. looking somewhat discombobulated, a little lost. i looked at tony, he had said did you effing hear what happened to the beast? i said no tony i just got back what happened? tony proceeded to tell me that when the president got in the beast, he was under the impression from mr. meadows, that the off-the-record movement to the capital was still possible. and likely to happen, and that bobby had more information. so once the president had gotten in the vehicle with body, he thought that they were going up to the capitol, and when bobby had relayed to him we are not, we don't have the assets to do it it's not secure or going back to the west wing. the president had very strong very angry response to that tony described him as being irate. the president said something to the fact of i'm the effing president.
very angry response to that tony described him as being irate. the president said something to the fact of i'm the effing president. take me up to the capitol now. to which bobby responded, sir, we have to go back to the west wing. the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle, to grab at the steering wheel. mr. engel grabbed his arm, said sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. we are going back to the west wing, we are not going to the capitol. mr. trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engle, and when mr. tony ornato had recounted the story to me, he motioned towards his clavicle's. >> joining us now, congress man adam schiff, a member of the january six committee. and the lead impeachment manager for the first impeachment trial of donald trump, in the united states
the question just asked. and you did not want to answer, i'm going to ask. anyway [laughs] as a two part, or part one. should we expect to hear further testimony or existing testimony from tony ornado, i understand the committee has spoken with. and could we expect to hear from mr. engle? it does seem that they are the people who could corroborate this really incredible story, about the president, physically attacking his own detail. that would seem to be important corroboration. should we expect to hear from them. and part, two does the committee know because mark meadows as one point was cooperating. does the committee have knowledge of who mr. meadows was on the phone with? when he would not allow cassidy hutchinson to hear his call and when he twice close the door on her. as he testified today? >> well, i think, some of that information we would need to hear from mark meadows himself. or perhaps by collecting and corroborating records.
talked about intelligence reports. i remember mr. ornado coming in and saying he had intel reports there could potentially be violence on the 6th. >> now, of course the world now knows that the people that attacked the capitol on january 6th had many different types of weapons. when the president speaks, the secret service requires those to pass through metal detectors, known as magnetometers, or mags. the people who entered the enclosed area for president trump's speech were screened so they could attend the rally at the ellipse. they had weapons and other items that were confiscated. pepper spray, knives, brass knuckles, tasers, body armors, gas masks, batons, blunt weapons. and those were just people who chose to go through security for the president's event on the ellipse. the select committee has learned about reports from outside the
and we continue pursue that, through the courts. he has obstructed congress. and we are trying to uphold that subpoena, to compel him to testify. >> congress woman, i have a question, that is similar to the question just asked. and you did not want to answer, i'm going to ask. anyway [laughs] as a two part, or part one. should we expect to hear further testimony or existing testimony from tony ornado, i understand the committee has spoken with. and could we expect to hear from mr. engle? it does seem that they are the people who could corroborate this really incredible story, about the president, physically attacking his own detail. that would seem to be important corroboration. should we expect to hear from them. and part, two does the committee know because mark meadows as one point was cooperating. does the committee have knowledge of who mr. meadows was on the phone with? when he would not allow cassidy hutchinson to hear his call and when he twice close the door on her. as he testified today? >> well, i think, some of that information we would need to hear from mark meadows himself. or perhaps by collecting and
poles, bear spray. is there anything else that you recall hearing about the people who were gathered in the attack? >> i recall tony and i having a conversation with mark probably around 10:00 a.m., 10:15 a.m., where i remember tony mentioning knives, guns, in the form of pistols and rifles, bear spray, body armor, spears and flag poles. spears were one thing and flag poles something tony related to me something to the effect of these f'ing people are putting spears on the end of flag poles. >> is it your understanding that mr. ornado told the president about weapons on the morning of january 6? >> that's what mr. ornado related to me. >> here's how you characterized mr. meadows' general response when people raised concerns about what could happen on january 6th.
clear, very clear, he had nothing short of a coup on his mind. >> yeah. >> let's also bring in u.s. special correspondent from bbc news katty kay, host, executive producer of "the circus" on show time, john heilemann and former u.s. attorney and senior fbi official chuck rosenberg. we're going to get to them in a minute, but, mika, let's first go through yesterday's testimony. >> yesterday's hearing focused radio transmissions from police officers who spotted weapons in the crowd on january 6. hutchinson said both mark meadows and former president trump were aware of the situation. >> you also described a brief meeting between mr. ornado and mr. meadows on a potential for violence. the meeting was on january 4th. they were talking about the potential for violence on january 6. let's listen to a clip of that testimony. >> i remember mr. ornado had
>> it's on his right hip. >> make sure they know they have an elevated threat in the trees outside of constitution avenue. with the american flag face mask. cowboy boots, weapon, weapon on the right side hip. >> i've got three men walking down the street with ar-15s. copy. >> miss hutchinson, in prior testimony, you described for us a meeting in the white house around 10:00 a.m. in the morning of january 6th. involving chief of staff meadows and tony ornado. were you in that meeting? >> i was. >> let's listen to your testimony about that meeting then we'll have some questions. >> i think the last time we talked you mentioned that some of the weapons that people had at the rally includes flag poles, oversized sticks, or flag
local to go to those border areas to meet some of the capacity of that increased crossings into the united states. now, in regards to the latest involving the investigation into this tractor-trailer tragedy, the latest is that two individuals have been charged. now, these charges are not for smuggling. these are for weapons charges by an undocumented person. these two individuals could face up to ten years in prison. we learned from court documents that their next court date is on july 1st. we have not heard from their attorneys. the death toll here, increasing to 53. now, alisyn and victor, one of the things that's very complicated about this, four local officials, including the medical examiner's office is identifying these individuals. this was a smuggling event. that's how officials describe it. so a lot of the individuals did not have i.d.s or they had multiple passports. now, preliminary indicators,