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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20180415:14:19:00

and why are you so concerned about people abroad and not at home? i would say it's a garment of mutuality, you can't in fact say we're ta we can't take care of the folks in syria, and just take care of our own, we can't work that way. >> annmarie just said, bombs won't bring peace or stability, and one can think of for examples when bombs have brought some degree -- i mean it took military force to defeat hitler, it took military force to deter the soviet union. but there's this deep sus mission, it seems to me on the new modern party and on the left that we -- >> i would not to tar people on the left for questioning engaging in that war. more recently, there's two

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20180415:14:02:00

that trump was willing to act forcefully against vladimir putin, with whom he had until then conducted a strange and star truck flirtation. for all these reasons, i support president trump's use of american military power this week, especially since this time it was done in collaboration with britain and france. we're living at a time when many global institutions and values that were built up among many decades are under threat. to have some action taken to even symbolically enforce the norm of not using the chemical weapons is worthwhile. but as i spoke at the time, the administration still does not have a syria trstrategy. in fact days before deciding on a military offensive in syria, trump announced that american troops were going to withdraw from syria all together.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20180415:14:01:00

also former secretary of state madeleine albright raises the alarm about fascism, saying it's on the ride around the world and even warns about the president. >> he is a democratic that has undemocratic instincts that trouble me a lot. also are we watching the end of human rights. that is the worry of no less an authority than the u.n.'s human rights chief. he is now quitting his job and naming the worst offenders. an interview you would not want to miss. but first here's my take. in april 2017, donald trump ordered a missile strike against the assad regime in syria for its use of chemical webs. i supported the action then because i thought it was worth punishing the regime for using the worst possible weapons. and finally, i was reassured

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20180415:14:21:00

they have given pause to all of us who in some circumstances military power should be used and when it goes wrong, it's an easy stick to take forward. i'm very careful to have in my mind irc staff working in syria. i'm fearful where mifor douma, anyone who claims to have a political argument is doomed to fail. >> and do you think annmarie, what is happening politically? is the left becoming isolationist? but the right doesn't seem to be cheering this particularly, they seem to kind of because it's jones. >> alex jones was weeping yesterday on tv. i think it's very similar to the politics of trade.

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completely agree with david, but that force and diplomacy and standing up for individual rights around the world can lead to a better world. i don't want to give up on that hope. >> you have 30 seconds to tell me, do you have any hope that the situation in syria is improving? >> no, the situation is getting worse in syria. 2.5 million people in idlib. we have got to move on this front. protect the civilians inside the country. macron is on that agenda. make sure the turks don't throw all their lots in with russia and ukraine. >> we hope people are taking notes on those very important points. we will be back with madeleine albright on fascism. so allstate is giving us money back on our bill. well, that seems fair. we didn't use it. wish we got money back on gym memberships. get money back

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20180415:14:41:00

members of the security council do even give a briefing. they didn't want to hear about human rights violations in syria. it's almost an absurdity. what else would you talk about if not the syrian human rights violations. if i were to continue, the procedure in the u.n. is that the permanent five of the security council, russia, china, u.s., france and the uk would -- and this is tradition would have to agree. and it was just inconceivable that they wouldn't agree unless i compromised. the security council is outspoken, and we do do diplomacy and we have made our mark as an outspoken office. and in this current environment you can only be that. and if i was to continue it

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20180415:14:40:00

this week the world finally paid attention again to human rights in syria, but only after ghastly images spread swiftly around the world. images of six children, some seemingly dying, others desperately gasping for air. less than a month ago, the u.n. security council was supposed to hear a report on the human rights situation in syria. the person who was to brief the counsel, the u.n.'s high commissioner on human rights. here to explain what happened at that march 9th u.n. security council meeting and why it's symbolic of the reason he's quitting his important job. >> i was invited to brief the security council on syria. a i needed nine votes of the 15

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20180415:14:49:00

. back now with more of my interview with the soon to be former u.n. human rights chief. he said that less than a month ago, the u.n. security council refused to even let him give the council a briefing on human rights problems in syria. it's just one example, he says, of how the world is turning its back on human rights which has led him to leave his important position. let me ask you about another important country, perhaps the most important country. you said that you feared that the united states for the first time since 1946, from, you know, the founding of the united nations and this whole system, that the united states was now backing away from the issue of human rights nationally? >> yes, again, looking at this vote in the u.n. security council, i think years ago would

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20180415:14:50:00

have been unimaginable that we couldn't brief on syria. >> but you think in the past the u.s. would have very forcefully -- >> i think so. i served on the u.n. security council a few years ago and i think that would have been the case. but in overall terms, at the human rights council in geneva, there's no human rights ambassador that's been appointed, which is rather stock and you sense the absence. and the feeling is that, yes, there's certain issues which either the president has spoken about, whether we go back to the executive orders of his presidency, or since then. >> the travel bans. >> the travel bans and the issue of the dreamers and the daca and how we are in a sort of state of limbo and then the various comments that the president has

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - CNN - 20180415:17:49:00

the u.n. security council refused to let him give the council a briefing on human rights problems in syria. it's just one example he says of how the world is turning its back on human rights. which has led him to leave his important position. >> let me ask you about another important country, perhaps the most important country. >> yes. >> you said that you feared that the united states for the first time since 1946, from the founding of the united nations and this whole system, that the united states was now backing away from the promotion of human rights internationally. >> yeah, again, looking at this vote in the security council. i think years ago it would have been unimaginable that we couldn't brief on syria. >> but you think that in the past the u.s. would have forcefully insisted that the u.n. human rights -- >> i think so. i think so. i served on the u.n. security

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