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the prime minister asked people to start working from home where they could — we look at the impact on the climate. coming up, an independent review into the historical sexual abuse of aspiring young football players by paedophile coaches will be published this lunchtime. we'll ask one survivor what he hopes will come out of it. more than 70,000 uber drivers across the uk will start getting the minimum legal wage from today — along with paid holiday and pension rights. it follows a ruling in the uk supreme court which could have a big impact on the "gig economy" for freelance workers. the ride—hailing app giant said all drivers would earn at least the national living wage, which rises to £8.91 next month. uber has told the bbc it did not expect the change in drivers�* conditions to mean higherfares. union leaders and employment experts say the move will have far reaching consequences for the gig economy. 0ur transport correspondent caroline davies reports. it was the company that shook up the system. but the system seems to have caught up with uber. after last month's verdict by the supreme court, it's announced that all of its drivers will be classed as workers. for years, politicians and unions have said you have been playing fast and loose with employment rights. does this not prove they were right all along? i think the situation for employment in the uk has been ambiguous for some time by government. you have taken advantage of those ambiguities, haven't you? we have worked as hard as we can to try and provide drivers with a good way of earning, the flexibility they want and the protections they have. but we can now go further than we have gone before because of the clarity the supreme court ruling brings us. drivers will still be able to work where and when they want. the company's minimum wage only applies once a driver accepts a ride. are passengers going to see their fares rise, because this will be costly to you? so we're not expecting to raise prices at the current time. we absolutely want to remain price competitive. so is this going to come out of the drivers�* income instead? where is that money going to come from? 0ur expectation is actually we can grow the business by treating drivers well, bringing drivers onto the platform, and also, by growing with cities as they unlock. 0ne drivers�* union was pleased. i wish they'd have done those five years ago. i wish they'd have listened then. however, they appear to be listening now. and this is a tremendous victory for working people in this country. this decision could have implications across the gig economy. uber is probably the most well known and potentially the biggest player in the gig economy. and other operators will be looking closely at this and thinking, well, after six years of litigation, uber had to give in to the inevitable and agree that their drivers were workers. so we probably need to be doing the same. this move is a fundamental change and it is one that will be closely watched around the world. caroline davies, bbc news. let�*s get more on this. with me now is colin dodds, an uber driver in glasow. and james farrar an ex uber driver who�*s now general secretary of the app drivers and couriers union. he�*s spent years battling for better workering conditions for uber drivers. james, what you think this means? well, i mean, it is a step forward but it we are still far short of what the supreme court actually ruled last month. they ruled that drivers should be protected under the law every time that they are working from login, making themselves available on the alpha work until late out again. but what do —— uber has decided is that you should only be entitled to those entitlements from when you are dispatched to when you drop the passenger. that means half of your time is not protected. we are still half leg 50% away from —— we are still 50% away from what the supreme court said. it is a step forward but uber not complying with the law still. white mesh —— uber not complying with the law still. white mesh —- are uber not complying with the law still. white mesh --_ uber not complying with the law still. white mesh -- are you think the will still. white mesh -- are you think they will not _ still. white mesh -- are you think they will not be _ still. white mesh -- are you think they will not be paid _ still. white mesh -- are you think they will not be paid while - still. white mesh -- are you think they will not be paid while cell- they will not be paid while cell waiting? they will not be paid while cell waitin: ? , ., , , they will not be paid while cell waitin? , ., , ., ., ., , waiting? yes, and this is analogous to bein: a waiting? yes, and this is analogous to being a barrister _ waiting? yes, and this is analogous to being a barrister at _ waiting? yes, and this is analogous to being a barrister at starbucks. i to being a barrister at starbucks. we do not tell them that they will only be paid whilst making a cappuccino and whilst waiting for the next customer they will not be paid. we do not say to shopkeepers, we will pay you less and less busy days and more on busy days. the initial tribunaljudge spell this out nicely. he quoted milton and said, they too serve who stand and wait. when you are serving a network and making yourself available and that availability is really important, it means it can get to customers quickly and that is because so many people are waiting around and they have to be paid that time. ., , ., ., “ around and they have to be paid that time. ., i. ., ~ .,, time. cullen, are you working as soon as you _ time. cullen, are you working as soon as you log _ time. cullen, are you working as soon as you log in _ time. cullen, are you working as soon as you log in to _ time. cullen, are you working as soon as you log in to that - time. cullen, are you working as soon as you log in to that or- time. cullen, are you working as soon as you log in to that or are | soon as you log in to that or are you only working when you are dispatched to a passenger? —— colin. i would agree with james that with being _ i would agree with james that with being off— i would agree with james that with being off the app, you are still working — being off the app, you are still working whilst waiting for a trip. i agree _ working whilst waiting for a trip. i agree with — working whilst waiting for a trip. i agree withjames on working whilst waiting for a trip. i agree with james on that aspect. with starbucks example, those people are fully _ with starbucks example, those people are fully employed and private higher— are fully employed and private higher drivers do not want to be fully— higher drivers do not want to be fully employed. they want to be truiy _ fully employed. they want to be truly self—employed and have the flexibility to work in different platforms while working there. so youii _ platforms while working there. so youii find — platforms while working there. so you'll find online, they all want to be self—employed and the workers status _ be self—employed and the workers status -- — be self—employed and the workers status —— worker's status is a minefieid~ _ status -- worker's status is a minefield-— status -- worker's status is a minefield. . ., ., minefield. are you saying you do not want to be legal— minefield. are you saying you do not want to be legal minimum _ minefield. are you saying you do not want to be legal minimum wage, - want to be legal minimum wage, holiday pay, pension rights? indie holiday pay, pension rights? we actuall holiday pay, pension rights? - actually earn more than £8 91 per hour and it is how you... it is where you were, the location, it is up where you were, the location, it is up to you to maximise where you are on the system. up to you to maximise where you are on the system-— up to you to maximise where you are on the system. what you say to colin about that, — on the system. what you say to colin about that, james? _ on the system. what you say to colin about that, james? it _ on the system. what you say to colin about that, james? it is _ on the system. what you say to colin about that, james? it is clear - on the system. what you say to colin about that, james? it is clear in - about that, james? it is clear in evidence we _ about that, james? it is clear in evidence we have _ about that, james? it is clear in evidence we have given - about that, james? it is clear in evidence we have given to - about that, james? it is clear in evidence we have given to the l evidence we have given to the tribunal but i end others were earning £5 power and that is what we were taking home. it is true that some people do not want legal protection, but i am the general secretary of the union and our members absolutely do want basic legal protections and everybody should have these basic legal protections. let should have these basic legal protections-— should have these basic legal protections. let colin respond. their membership _ protections. let colin respond. their membership is _ protections. let colin respond. their membership is small. - protections. let colin respond. their membership is small. alli protections. let colin respond. i their membership is small. all of these _ their membership is small. all of these union's membership is very small— these union's membership is very small compared to the actual membership and it isjust not reflecting facebook and whatsapp groups _ reflecting facebook and whatsapp groups. you are talking about the many _ groups. you are talking about the many thousands of drivers on these groups— many thousands of drivers on these groups and — many thousands of drivers on these groups and are saying they want to truly be _ groups and are saying they want to truly be self—employed and, yes, uber— truly be self—employed and, yes, uber doesn't say, this is the greatest _ uber doesn't say, this is the greatest recruitment drive ever for uber and _ greatest recruitment drive ever for uberand there greatest recruitment drive ever for uber and there will be so many drivers— uber and there will be so many drivers come to work for them and been _ drivers come to work for them and beep percentage cut the drivers will take more _ beep percentage cut the drivers will take more —— the drivers will have more _ take more —— the drivers will have more taken — take more —— the drivers will have more taken off them. i do not think there _ more taken off them. i do not think there will_ more taken off them. i do not think there will be benefit for the drivers _ there will be benefit for the drivers. ,., there will be benefit for the drivers. , ., ,, there will be benefit for the drivers. ,, ,, ., , , drivers. do you think anything else flows from this, _ drivers. do you think anything else flows from this, ie _ drivers. do you think anything else flows from this, ie other— drivers. do you think anything else flows from this, ie other drivers i drivers. do you think anything else flows from this, ie other drivers in | flows from this, ie other drivers in the gig economy or is itjust about uber? the gig economy or is it 'ust about uber? ., ., ., uber? one thing that made it more easy poised — uber? one thing that made it more easy poised to _ uber? one thing that made it more easy poised to win _ uber? one thing that made it more easy poised to win the _ uber? one thing that made it more easy poised to win the case - uber? one thing that made it more easy poised to win the case is - uber? one thing that made it more easy poised to win the case is the l easy poised to win the case is the regulatory regime places responsibility on uber to act in a way that it is controlling drivers. the supreme court ruling is such a moral imperative. what the lord said was that the purpose of the legislation was to protect vulnerable workers and if you are platform employer like uber and are creating artificial contracts and artificial paid for the purpose of avoiding legislation, which cheating workers out of statutory protections, it will not stand in law. i think it creates room for other workers to be protected although they are not working in a licensed industry like we are. thank ou ve licensed industry like we are. thank you very much. _ licensed industry like we are. thank you very much, james, _ licensed industry like we are. thank you very much, james, and - licensed industry like we are. thank you very much, james, and colin, i you very much, james, and colin, still an uber driver in glasgow. breaking news now and it is to do with the indecent assault and murder of 31—year—old stuart lubbock. it happened at the home of michael barrymore and they say they have arrested a 50—year—old man in cheshire. this is essex police, who, at the beginning of last year, actually assigned new investigators into the case. essex police now say detectives investigating the indecent into closure and murder of stuart lubbock at the hendon home of barrymore have arrested a man. —— at the home of michael barrymore. the government says that, by the end of this week, half the uk adult population will have been vaccinated against coronavirus. this comes as the number of european countries which have suspended the use of the 0xford—astrazeneca coronavirus vaccine has risen to 18. latvia and sweden are now on the list. that�*s despite the european medicines regulator declaring that fears about blood clots are unfounded. dan johnson reports. across europe there are questions... ..about the 0xford—astrazeneca vaccine, as more countries suspend its use. in italy, vaccination centres stand empty whilst presumably, coronavirus keeps spreading. the concern is blood clots. astrazeneca says there have been 37 incidents of blood clots in the uk and eu. but that is following 17 millionjabs. in germany, seven rare clots in the brain and three deaths have been recorded. health officials there say the responsible move is to pause, investigate each case and re—evaluate. but the european medicine regulator says the overall rates of clots are actually lower than you would expect in the general population. and delays could mean more covid cases and more lives lost. the damage to confidence in the vaccine just seems a dreadful price to pay in order to signal some sort of, yes, we are looking at safety and we are erring on the side of caution. this isn�*t erring on the side of caution, it�*s throwing caution to the wind. in austria, one batch of the vaccine has been held back, while others are still being given, leaving some people like manfred concerned. i wouldn�*t recommend to get it now for me. i�*m a bit scared to get ill of the vaccine. but this woman is pleased she has had herfirst dose. if you get covid—19 and you have really bad issues, you never know, then it's better to take it. vaccine take—up in the uk is among the highest in the world, and the message couldn�*t be clearer. the oxford—astrazeneca jab is safe. we know that over 10 million people have had it in this country. and that�*s what the british regulator says. but also the world health organization, and even the european regulator. a european safety review will be published tomorrow. france has said if it gets the all clear, it will restart immediately. for some countries, this is about being careful to ensure confidence in vaccination programmes. but there is also awareness that doubts about vaccines can be just as contagious as viruses. if one spreads, so will the other. dan johnson, bbc news. the former chief executive of the mhra, sir kent woods, says there has been a "dent in public confidence" after various countries suspended the use of the jab, but it has a very strong safety record and people shouldn�*t hesitate to get the vaccine. the intention was that there should be a single safety review at the european medicines agency and that the member states would follow the advice of the european medicines agency. there was a press conference from the ema yesterday afternoon in which the advice was repeated that the vaccine was considered to be safe and that countries should continue to use it. that has been a consistent message out of the world health organization, it has been a consistent message out of the mhra in this country, and we have largest experience of the astrazeneca vaccine. we have given 11 million doses. we have an excellent system of monitoring safety in vaccine roll—outs and there has been confidence that the vaccine is performing as it should. let�*s talk to our chief political correspondent adam fleming. what is the latest from politicians on this? liii< what is the latest from politicians on this? , ., ., on this? uk is not getting involved in any diplomatic— on this? uk is not getting involved in any diplomatic spat _ on this? uk is not getting involved in any diplomatic spat with - on this? uk is not getting involved in any diplomatic spat with the - on this? uk is not getting involved in any diplomatic spat with the eu | in any diplomatic spat with the eu or eu member states because their priority at the moment is to reassure public that the vaccine is completely safe. there is a separate conversation within government about vaccine certificates and what are the pros and cons about them being played in the uk for people to access particular services. we have heard from the business minister this morning. we are having debates and discussions are travel and it is important _ discussions are travel and it is important people can travel safely, but what _ important people can travel safely, but what we also have to do is be driven _ but what we also have to do is be driven by— but what we also have to do is be driven by the data. we have got to see how _ driven by the data. we have got to see how the coronavirus develops and once we _ see how the coronavirus develops and once we have reopened the economy, we will— once we have reopened the economy, we will he _ once we have reopened the economy, we will be looking at other measures to make _ we will be looking at other measures to make sure people are safe and that the _ to make sure people are safe and that the public in the confidence is maintained. that the public in the confidence is maintained-— that the public in the confidence is maintained. ~ ., , ., , , , maintained. what is happening behind closed doors at _ maintained. what is happening behind closed doors at whitehall— maintained. what is happening behind closed doors at whitehall at _ maintained. what is happening behind closed doors at whitehall at the - closed doors at whitehall at the moment is michael gove is running a review of vaccine passports. this week, he asked people to submit evidence to it. there is a series of questions about medical considerations, ethical considerations, ethical considerations, what it means for venues and the legal rights and responsibilities of employers, and they are just a few of the westerns they are just a few of the westerns they are just a few of the westerns they are asking, which shows you what a thorny issue it is in the uk. in brussels, the eu commission will publish their proposals of what they call digital green passes, their version of vaccine passports. the focus of that will be on travel of eu nationals to other eu countries within the eu and i am sure you are well aware, we have left the eu so i am not sure that means for british travellers going to the continent. we should have more details by lunchtime. we should have more details by lunchtime-— we should have more details by lunchtime. ., ,, , ., ~ ., . lunchtime. thank you, adam. but --eole lunchtime. thank you, adam. but people need _ lunchtime. thank you, adam. but people need to — lunchtime. thank you, adam. but people need to know— lunchtime.

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