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good morning, we are following significant breaking news this morning. the truce between israel and hamas is now over and this is what we have been seeing today in gaza. airstrikes have been raining down and fighting is raging once again after the week-long pause ended at midnight eastern time. the hamas-controlled ministry of health says israeli strikes have already killed people. the number now 32 people killed in gaza as we're told trucks with the humanitarian aid have stopped going into gaza for now. israel is accusing hamas of breaking the truce by firing rockets on communities near the gaza strip. >> so the big questions this morning, what happens now? qatar says negotiations are ongoing to pause the fighting and exchange hostages again. no clear answer as to whether or not that will reach a resolution. what about the remaining hostages? israel says 137 are still believed to be in gaza. a senior u.s. official telling me before the pause fell apart hamas was claiming it didn't have any more women or children hostages to exchange, which was the agreement that lasted seven days. israel saying that's not true. a u.s. official telling me hamas didn't submit a list of hostages to release last night like they had been doing in days prior. what happens now to the civilians in gaza? the biden administration has been pressing the israeli government to protect those civilians. secretary of state antony blinken met with israeli leaders yesterday. he says he told them the massive loss of life could have been seen in northern gaza cannot repeated in the south. joining us now idf spokesman lieutenant colonel peter learner. appreciate your time this morning. with what we're seeing right now should it be characterized that operations in the south are officially underway? >> good morning, phil. yes, indeed. since hamas decided to cancel the ceasefire by not releasing women and children, we have instructed -- been instructed to engagement before we conducted any sort of activities, hamas had already fired rockets from southern gaza before 6:00 a.m. this morning here in israel. they have been firing throughout the day at israel. so, yes, we are engaging. we are seeking out hamas wherever they are. we are evacuating people from specific areas that we intend on operating on. this is the nature of warfare. >> on your last point, there have been leaflets dropped with a qr code, that code leads to -- you put out a statement in multiple languages. tv has a civilian evacuation map. but it basically has numbered zones, parceled out throughout that area. two questions. one, internet connectivity has been a problem at various points throughout gaza. does that concern you for people actually knowing their zones? second, how are people supposed to understand what this means? >> of course, if you zoom no on that map if you live in a specific location, you will know where you live and you will know if you are told to evacuate from one point to another that you should take that advice. this is precisely the idea of getting people out of harm's way. so if you know that there is going to be an idf operation in your area, you should try to evacuate if you are not a hamas terrorist. this is precisely the efforts that we are going to in order to try to alleviate the difficulties, the challenges that the civilians of gaza are facing following the war. a war that israel didn't ask for. a war that hamas opened and launched on the 7th of october, brutally mass kerg, murdering, butchering, beheading and raping and abducting so many israelis on that brutal horrific day. so we are now at war with hamas. we have resumed our activities this morning and we are continuing to operate within the guidelines of the laws of armed conflict distinguishing between noncombatants and hamas. >> discussions between u.s. officials and the counterparts in your government, my question based on what you are outlining here, evacuate to where? particularly in the south, given the scale of movement of the civilian population from the north, there are so many people there. are there specific places they are supposed to go when you warn them? >> so if you look again at the map, you will see there are specific areas we are saying this is where you need to evacuate from. these are places where we are intending to conduct our operations. therefore, beyond those areas are safer areas. this is precisely the distinct between civilians and terrorists, noncombatants and terrorists. it gets difficult, especially due to the ruthless enemy we are facing. hamas have put their terrorist capabilities within the civilian arena intentionally putting the civilians of gaza at risk, whether it's in hospitals, schools, mosque, high-rise buildings, wherever they are, they are using the civilian arena in order to try to conduct their attacks. this is the challenge we face. >> i know that you are representing the idf. you are not in the political side or the government. do you have any understanding -- does the idf have any understanding in terms of now that the hostage swaps, the pause have broken down, as israel's made clear they believe because hamas not putting a list on the table, not complying with the agreement, do you know where the 130 plus hostages are at this point? and is there any hope those negotiations could lead to another pause? >> well, here's an idea you'd like to entertain perhaps with you. of course, this isn't policy. think about this for a moment. hamas could unconditionally surrender and release all of the hostages and there would be no need for any more war. this is a reality we are facing currently. the government instructed the idf to engage hamas. we intend on defeating hamas. we intend on one hand dismantling and destroying hamas as a government authority and intend on bringing the hostages back. we have an obligation to the families that, you know, there are now 140 israeli families have been torn to pieces, their lives torn to pieces for 56 days now. we are heading into our eighth week in conflict with a ruthless terrorist organization that is conducting psychological terrorism, that is trying to squeeze us extensively. hamas have to go. we need to bring back the hostages, bring them back now. we will use everything in our disposal, operational, intelligence capabilities in order to try to realize that. but indeed there is a huge challenge in that effort. obviously, their presence influences the operational activities that we are conducting, but absolutely there is there are two goals to be achieved. >> one final question. our reporting on the frowned is that humanitarian aid trucks have been halted going through the rafah crossing. i believe there were commitments humanitarian aid would continue at the significantly surged levels that came into place over the last search days. was there an order given to halt the crossings? >> so, throughout the last search weeks now, almost eight weeks, we have been conducting a humanitarian effort that operate hand in hand with the operational effort. indeed, as you rightly pointed out, over the last week, hundreds of truckloads of medical supplies, food supplies, shelter, water, fuel, gas have all come in. i can say that i have some indications from this morning that there has -- some of that has actually been siphoned off by hamas. so there are concerns. i can't say that i -- from what i know today there has not been any transfer of goods today, indeed, but we will be looking into that throughout the next coming days. >> lieutenant colonel learner from the idf, thank you. >> let's bring in cnn military analyst retired air force colonel cedric leighton. could you respond to what you heard, that last answer i think was crucial from peter learner of the idf. i mean, that sound like aid is not going to go in. is that what you're hearing? >> that's what i heard as well, poppy. good morning to you. so when you look at the different areas here that we have with gaza being right here, the crossing points right there at rafah, all of that is basically blocked off. frankly, if i were on egyptian truck driver going gaza i wouldn't want to at this moment in time. it's just flat out too dangerous and there is no way that the israeli forces are going to discriminate against the efforts by the truck drivers, the aid groups to come in there. so what that means is it's just too dangerous to distribute u.n. aid or any other aid coming in. >> okay. so perhaps no more aid going in. and let's pull up this other map, which is the evacuation zone map for southern gaza where phil was talking to the idf representative about that. where are people supposed to go, colonel, to be safe? and why wouldn't hamas operatives go with them to the safe zones? >> that's the biggest danger, poppy, right here. when you look at this map, and it's a very detailed -- they have very small zones, either usually three or four digit numbers. what they will do, if i understood colonel learner correctly, they are going to tell people to evacuate like this zone here is 2231. so if they evacuate this zone, then they can move into other zones. but they will probably be using a series of zones that will be the area in which they are going to be striking. if that's the case, they are going to basically force people to move, let's say they are striking in this area, they will move out of all of these different zones. there are probably 20 different zones here. when they come out here where are they supposed to go? theoretically, everything that is not mentioned is safe. so they could potentially go here or here or here. but if they do that, then they have to, of course, be cognizant this could change. if there is a lack of internet connectivity, is a problem. >> which we know is a problem on the ground for a lot of people. >> colonel, thank you very much. >> you bet, poppy. well, the biden administration warning israeli officials to approach southern gaza differently than their operation in the north. what that means. also, new reporting this morning suggesting israel knew about hamas' specific attack plan for more than a year. how this could impact prime minister netanyahu's political future. take more children with the wounds of war. there are children everywhere. these children are sleeping, there was a bomb 50 meters from here thcht is a war on children. >> war on children. stark words from a unicef spokes spokesman as the truce has ended. he was speaking from one of the last remaining hospitals operating in gaza. the health ministry says 6,000 children have been killed in gaza since the october 7th terror attack. and this is a live look at gaza right now where we are seeing large plumes of smoke once again. . idf says it is resuming combat operations against hamas after that seven-day truce expired. >> negotiations are still technically ongoing despite the fighting. there are more questions than answers about what's going to happen next. barak, you have been covering every in and out and moment of this over the course and particularly the negotiations the last seven days. is there any chance that they come back to life? i know the qataris say they are talking. u.s. officials say that israel -- talking to intermediaries. so is hamilas. how real is that? >> i think it's real. i think we just moved, let's say, a week ago, ten days ago, israel and hamas were holding indirect talks under fire. then we had this pause and the talks went on during the pause, during the ceasefire. now we're back to talking under fire. and i think we can find ourselves again, maybe again, not today, not tomorrow, it will take a few days, but we can find ourself again in some sort of a pause around some kind of a renewed or a bit different hostage deal. i wouldn't close the door on this at all. >> all your reporting on the israeli military, do you agree with that assessment? >> there is no question that the military offensive is what has been instrumental in putting pressure on hamas to even get them to think about a deal, right. we have to remember, what was hamas' strategy? they massacred and bucbutchered people, they are showed that the intelligence was flawed. why did they take the hostages? they wanted to cause israel pain and wanted to have that leverage. israel's offensive on the ground put hamas into a corner and got them under pressure. they felt this is the way to relieve some of that pressure. it's like a valve. they opened it for a bit, released about 100 hostages, there are 130 or so in the gaza strip. now fighting resumes. at some point they will be willing to open the valve again. so i think that the pressure by the idf is important, is key to get these hostages home. >> part of that pressure, obviously, is the southern operations that have been a significant point of debate between u.s. fishes and israeli counterparts over the last several days. we talked to lieutenant colonel peter learner from the idf. they have released a map, a numbered map people can evacuate to if they are warranted that hostilities are coming. that doesn't sound like the scale of what u.s. officials think is enough. is more coming? do we have a sense of what the safe zones would look like, where they may be? >> i think when it comes to the safe zones in gaza, i'm not sure that that's exactly what the u.s. wants because i think that the assessment of the biden administration is that those safe zones are not necessarily safe on the one hand. on the other happened,nd, there cooperation by international organization or u.n. or palestinians themselves for going into those areas in order to avoid getting hit. therefore, i think that, you know, this map that the idf has put out is more in line of what the u.s. wanted, meaning you are not giving the civilians there just one area and telling them, okay, everybody go there, but parse the gaza strip into small pieces and you tell them every time, okay, whoever lives in this quite small part of the gaza strip, go now out of this part for, i don't know, an hour, two hours, a day, and then you can come back after we finish operating there. >> dumb question, perhaps, but i keep wondering why wouldn't hamas just go with them? >> go with the deal of? >> no. i'm saying to these zones. to the safe zones. they have a history of surrounding themselves with civilians. see what i'm saying? is this the most effective way -- >> this is israel's way of trying to say -- and i think israel has been clear since the beginning of the conflict. the war is not against the palestinian people. it's against hamas. israel wants to give the people of the gaza the opportunity to flee the areas. they did that in the north. despite the heavy toll -- and we have to recognize, there is a tragedy unfolding in gaza. we cannot ignore that. i argue it's on the fault and responsibility of hamas. they are the ones who embed themselves in civilian infrastructure, they hide under hospitals and schools and in mosques. unfortunately, israel is a country that has a right to act in self-defense and take out the military targets. peep are going to get killed. that's the ugly truth of war. hamas is going to continue to use the civilians. that is their modus operandi. t that's how they continue to survive and fight. >> we appreciate it. thanks, guys. >> thank you. george santos just hours away from possibly joining elite company. he could become the sixth elected official ever kicked out of congress. he says he is not going quietly. >> i didn't think that my tenure in congress -- bold. daring. expressive. contra costa college allows me to be whoever and whatever i want to be, providing the stage, the canvas, the tools to use my voice and write my story. find your passion and create your future at contra costa college. start today at contracosta.edu in two hours, the house of representatives will vote on whether to expel embattled congressman george santos. if two-thirds of the house does vote to expel, it would make santos only the sixth member to ever be expelled. at this moment according to a pair of senior republican sources, top republicans are not sure how this is going to go down. if he is expelled, the new york republican will not be going quietly. he is threatening to spill tea on several of his colleagues if he is expelled. harry enten joins us now with more. if you look at the numbers, does he have a chance to stay in congress? yeah. so let's look. this comes down to math, with which is something i like to talk about. the house votes needed to expel him, 290 to expel him. among republicans you need 77. if every democrat votes expel. the question will they get to 77? let's look at the stage play. 77 likely needed. 24 republicans have previously voted to expel. an additional 20 more say they will now. so that's going to need an additional 33. keep in mind, many gop members are not saying how they are going to vote. so this is all the reporting we have right now, essentially that we don't know how this is going to go down. it looks like it's going to be a close. >> there there any republicans in congress that are fearful that if they expel santos, vote to expel, that they will face repercussion also from voters? >> yeah. this to me is the interesting thing. republican voters are more than willing to go along with the idea of getting rid of george santos. so take a look at republicans nationwide, positive view of george santos. it's just 15%. remember, the last republican president who resigned was richard nixon. 50% of republicans had a positive view of him. so the fact is republicans nationwide, there is no reason why house republicans should fear repercussions from voters. the real thing they are looking at is the u.s. house balance of power. at this point, it's just not nine seats. it's tied for the narrowest majority in the last 90 years. it's not really the voters that they necessarily fear, but more the idea this they do not necessarily want such a small majority. >> what happens to the district? >> if he gets expelled, this is a tight district. republicans won this the senate race. biden won in 2020. it will be a toss if this goes to a special election. >> thank you. despite the allegations against congressman santos, not every republican is declaring they will vote to expel him, including congressman matt gaetz. >> since the beginning of this congress, there is only two ways you get expelled. you get convicted of a crime, or you participated in the civil war. neither apply to george santos. and so i rise not to defend george santos, whoever he is, but to defend the very precedent that my colleagues are willing to shatter. >> very important caveat. nod defending george santos there. joining us to unpack, back to unpack, congressman santos's communications director resigned in may after he was indicted on fraud and money-laundering charges. great to see you. as somebody who worked in his office, knows him, spent time with him, what would you tell republican lawmakers who are on the fence right now who don't know which way they are going to go? >> well, that's a difficult question. no, i shouldn't say a difficult question. a great question to ask. it's a difficult situation to be in because, yes, he has not been convicted or as of yet. at the same time, you know, chairman getz spent time on the floor yesterday laying out the house ethics report and what the -- the work that they had put into this, and highlighting that, in fact, that the congressman had many opportunities to cooperate and provide information and he failed to do so, and that was a big shock to me. but as a member of congress who was on the fence, let that serve as a confirmation this was not a biased report. it was conducted very thoroughly, and the staff who did a tremendous job, who they reviewed over 172,000 pages worth of information and interviewed over 40 people, that should be a confirmation right there. if we are

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