trump will see it? >> oh, he's going to keep the convention and he's going to use it as rocket fueled energizes base, but don't know how it plays with swing voters. >> all right. well, thank you both very much. thanks for joining us. the news continues right here. on cnn it's friday, may 31, right now on cnn this morning he didn't do a thing wrong. i'm a. very innocent man guilty on all 34 counts, donald trump calling his hush money trial rigged, and assisting you only verdict he cares about is the one that's handed down on november 5th i did my job manhattan da alvin bragg speaking out and praising the jury after that the historic conviction as soon as we can appeal, we will and donald trump's lawyer vowing to fight the verdicts and the possibility of jail time. >> for the former president right fiber him. >> your in washington alive. look at new york city where donald trump is waking up. it convicted felon this morning. good morning, everyone. i'm kasie hunt wonderful to have you with us for the first time in us history, a former president is a convicted felon. the jury in donald trump's new york hush money trial, finding him guilty on all 34 charges of falsifying business records. the verdict follows nearly 12 hours of deliberations over two days sentencing is scheduled for july 11. here was manhattan district attorney alvin bragg while this defendant maybe unlike any other in american history we arrived at this trial and ultimately today at this verdict in the same manner as every other case that comes through the courtroom doors by following the facts and the law, and doing so without fear or favor one of trump's attorneys, todd blanche, talking to cnn last night if the word, of michael cohen was not accepted at all, then you could not have convicted president trump. and the jury convicted. so at the end of the day, they they looked past what we thought were fatal flaws and mr. cohen's story and his past and they reach a guilty verdict all right. >> we have a very strong panel at this 5:00 a.m. our to discuss former federal prosecutor shan wu is here. >> cnn politics, white house reporters, stephen collinson and cnn political commentators maria cardona, ensure michael singleton join us here. steven, let me start with you at you are the person who here at cnn paints a big picture of where we are as a country yesterday was an incredibly consequential day. now, we are on the day after the first day of the new version of this presidential campaign, which promises to be one of the most, if not the most consonant in american history. where do we go from here i think this is a sum of moment because this is unprecedented national occurrence, as you say, in us history. >> on the one hand, you good argue that the system worked. the fundamental principle that led to the founding of the united states was that no one is above the law, not even the richest, most powerful person and the legal system when through his process and worked, the problem here is that donald trump and most of his republicans borders have reacted to this by launching new attacks on the rule of law. and that is going to take us down a very volatile road. in the middle of an election in a country that is deeply polarized and we're going to see justice trump attacked the integrity of the electoral system in 2020, we're going to seem to see the same thing happen right now to the legal system. >> it sure. michael singleton, we're already seeing republicans wrapped ali. i mean, honestly, they are kind of falling all over themselves to rally behind donald trump here on this, there have been suggestions from some in the right-wing media, from some elected officials of using state attorneys, generals, offices to go after democrats for example. and as steven notes, there has been a systematic undermining. we saw president trump do this. former president trump do this with the 2020 election results, and now do it with the court system you are the republican sitting at this table, i know you once worked for trump, although you were fired from the trump administration after you were willing to criticize him, what is your view of how this verdict is going to affect the results of the election in terms of is it going to galvanize donald trump supporters? and what do you think the overall impact? >> is on the undermining of faith in the system. so let me answer the second question. first i am concerned that a lot of republicans, to the point that you two raised are going to look at the judicial system and say we can't trust it it's not fair. >> this was a witch hunt. this was a persecution that is troubling because in the past we've also have come to the conclusion that they'll the system as it completely perfect for the most part, it tries to be as fair and balanced and as objective as it's possible based on the facts that troubles me a lot consider now divided the country already has, i think this is only going to make things worse. to answer the first question, i think that republicans are going to dig in then you saw last night when read shut down because so many individuals are public and fundraising fundraising platform. yeah, shut down with so many people were attempting to raise money. but i also think that this galvanizes democrats are president biden to look at it on the flip side my question here, casey is what happens with the people in the middle? some independence swing voters who would kind of say, well, maybe we're looking at trump because we're unhappy about the economy, are unhappy about immigration, are those voters that small percentage, they suddenly going to say, i'm willing there's still vote for the former president despite these things, i'm not necessarily certain on that at this point maria yeah, i agree with sure. michael, i think that is where the big question is, but i also think that where republicans are really concerns because they're seeing the same polls that we've been seeing. if you are to believe the polls and i don't know but we can at this point because we are in unchartered waters. we don't really know. let's say that. >> right. i mean, we don't we don't really know what effect this is going to have. but we have seen in poll after poll after poll, that there is some shift anywhere between 2% to 7% to 15% of trump's supporters saying that they would at least have pause and many of them saying that they would flip their support if donald trump is convicted. and the other thing that i think we need to take the look at is while lots of republicans, the majority who support elected officials, who support and to your point case, they're coming to his help right there helping him saying that this is a witch hunt. the majority of voters don't believe that this was a witch hunt and believed that these were legitimate cases. this one in particular, even as people say, it's the weakest one but it was a legitimate case being brought against the president. so i think all of those things are things that we have to keep in mind. >> shan wu, the next major date that we need to watch for. i mean, there's there's a debate right here on cnn on june 27th. i don't want overlook that, but trump's gonna be sentenced on july 11th. there is going to be a request to delay that how likely do you think it's going to be? because right now that's set to happen before the republican national convention. do you think it's possible we're going to see a delay. >> and what are the factors that the judge here is weighing in terms of deciding whether or not to send since donald trump to jail time i think the requests for delay is not likely to succeed if there's something very specific on that day that there's just stick with his campaign and such. i think the judge will kind them some slack, but and the idea that they might be put off past the convention or even later. that's just not going to happen. this judge has been very good about really trying to maintain this case on an even keel the way they normally would be done, despite who the defendant is. so i don't think the lay tech is going to work here with regards the sentencing factors. the new york state sensing system a little bit different than the federal one, federal and has this very complex scientific matrix. wider discretion on a judge's part here, trump's a first-time offender, not likely. he's going to send him to jail for a long time under these statutes. but the one random factor to think about is the gag order violations, which judge didn't really address during in trial. that's going to factor in, even though trump's a first-time offender. also, he's a first-time offender who has several other pending cases. so it's not as though here's a completely clean criminal history right now. all that's going to affect them steven, last word yeah. my understanding is that the gagewa stays in place. so if there are more infringements that could make trump the put him in even more trouble. >> yeah, it's a little bit unusual usually the gag order is protecting the integrity of the trial, but i think here right now they're still concerned, obviously about the jurors security. so that's stamp plus stakes could not be higher. >> all right our panel is going to stick around coming up next here, trump guilty verdict making headlines around the world. >> we're going to bring you the international reaction without max foster in london this morning plus president biden paving the way for ukraine too long launch attacks on russian soil and a redo for boeing account down to a second attempt to get astronauts into space act of 22 seasons you can't control a tornado. what kinds of interventions can we design go inside? storm premiere of violent earth with liev schreiber, sunday at nine on cnn arthritis pain. >> we say not today. tylenol eight hour arthritis pain has two layers are really the first dispatch. the second is long last name. we give you your day bag, so you can give it everything. tylenol. 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