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love a chance to frame it for you. >> i'm kevin lip ttac at the white house. and this is cnn victim donald trump i'm found guilty and could face prison time. a stunning precedent for a man on the ballot. >> again, this is bigger than me. this is bigger than my presidency. >> he's taking an aggressive stance but how is the verdict affecting his campaign and his future republican national committee co-chair lara trump joins me exclusively. next. >> turning point president biden in response to the trump verdict with caution, that's how the american system of justice works. >> and pivots back to policy. you, fellow democrats think he's missing an opportunity. senate candidate, congressman adam schiff joins me exclusively, plus all in top republicans rushed to trump's defense. >> i can't believe though this shell but with polls showing a tight race, what will independent voters thing, he back to nikki haley for president new hampshire governor chris sununu is ahead hello, i'm kasie hunt and washington where the state of our union is in uncharted territory for the first time ever a former us president, donald trump is a felon convicted on 34 counts he'll be sentenced by a judge just months before he stands in the presidential election. last night, trump leaned into his stance as a self-proclaimed quote warrior with a visit to the old fighting championship in new jersey. and the republican party seems to be buying his message. trump has raised tens of millions in donations since the verdict thursday in new york. as republican officials of all stripes are backing him and attacking the us judicial system but the effect on his bid to unseat president joe biden, particularly among independent voters, is far from clear. not to mention the legal consequences of his conviction, which he will appeal. his attorney, todd blanche told the ap he plans to argue strenuously against potential prison time and trump was asked about the possibility hill face house arrest or prison on fox face. >> what that does, i'm okay with it. i don't know that the public would stand it. i don't i'm not sure that the public would stand for with a house arrest for i think i think it'd be tough for the public to take at a certain point. there's a breaking point and joining me this morning is republican national committee co-chair and the president's daughter-in-law, lara trump good morning. >> thank you very much for being here good morning. >> thanks for having me. >> so you heard at donald trump just their respond to the possibility of getting sentenced to jail or house arrest. he says he's okay with it, but he's not sure if the public will stand for it and they quote at a certain point there's a breaking point what does that look like? what is he saying will happen i think you've seen already what's happened. >> it's the american people have really spoken up and casey, they've spoken with their wallets in their pocketbooks even in a time where our economy is in such bad shape, thanks to horrific policies by joe biden, the american people came out and in 48 hours after donald trump's verdict was read our campaign and the rnc raised $70 million in digital fundraising. this is small-dollar donations, and i think the amazing statistic to take out of that is that 30% of that money came in from people who had never once donated to donald trump. people are very upset about what they saw happen this week to someone that could never have had a case brought against him. we all know that f his name had been anything other than donald trump. this case, what i've never seen, the light of day and what people are seeing now is that they can't trust our judicial system they are very worried about the america that we are facing. if this is the precedent, we are setting, and the united states. and so i think that that was a very quick, very rapid, and very strong response from the american people. it has gone way too far. the judicial system being weaponized against a political opponent, the american people are set and they spoke out about it. >> laura, this was a jury of regular americans. do you not trust them donald trump. >> let's look at the fact that this case was not brought by the fec. they looked at this years ago, they said there's no the case here. it wasn't brought by cy vance, the former district attorney of manhattan. it wasn't even brought by alvi all possible statistics as well. this judge managed to get three anti-trump cases. steve bannon, allen weisselberg, the former cfo of the trump organization, and donald trump. he donated this judge to the biden campaign his daughter raises money for the opposition for death. i asked you about the jury specifically should james i'm not i'm not done. you had a judge who told the jury that they did not have to be unanimous in their decision they could come up with a whole host of different ideas and then they could come in and present it to him and they would work it out together. >> this case from the beginning has been cited. >> the venue should never have been in new york city because even though he had to be unanimous people document leave, trump, which and again, about the jury and normal americans that are part of this, do you think it's not possible for any correct to get a fair trial by jury. >> i think that this judge should have never been a presiding over this case. he weighed the entire case in the eyes of the jury, and then he gave the jury instructions that were incredibly leading. and you can't blame the jury they were doing what he told them to do. so from the beginning, this case, whether you're talking about the judge, the venue, the instructions given, or the fact that but a key witness that would have exonerated donald trump and shown what a waste of time this entire case ultimately was. the judge wouldn't allow in. >> so you can't blame the jury for their decision, but you're tired. >> you want to know the former president had an opportunity to testify. he could have. and i also want to note, of course, he does plan to appeal this just to circle back to what we did here from the former president this morning this judge, who you just criticized extensively is the person that is going to decide whether or not the former president will go to jail what should donald trump's supporters do if that happens? >> well, they're gonna do what they've done from the beginning, which is remain calm and protest at the ballot box on november 5th, there's nothing to do other than make your voices heard loud and clear and speak out against this. because this is not the united states of america, casey, this is the kind of thing you would expect to see in a communist uss so they shouldn't do anything until voting starts and then they're going to come out in droves. and i believe donald trump will be reelected as a 47th president. >> so you of course, are the co-chair of the republican national committee and your party is set to nominate the former president for president again. >> and that's set to happen right now, just four days after he has said to me be sentenced on july 11, are you planning or discussing any changes to the convention in programming or scheduling well, i think we have to be ready for anything as we've seen, you know, all bets are off when it comes to donald trump. >> so yeah, we have to wait and see it's ironic to me, you had to rush this case through and now we have to wait over a month of course, for sentencing. everyone to read into the irony of that, of course. but yes, we have to make plans as they happen and we're going to have several contingency plans. the truth is, it really doesn't matter whether it's from trump tower in manhattan, whether it's from mar-a-lago, whether it's from our convention in milwaukee, wisconsin, we will nominate donald trump as our republican nominee. and that's what ultimately matters all right so at this point you also have to consider how independent voters may actually take this in. >> this is going to be an incredibly close election. it could come down to a handful all of these independence in critical swing states are you going to lose votes because of this conviction i think the polls right after the verdict show that actually the opposite has happened. >> you had a 6% jump, are six point jump rather for donald trump or right after this conviction was red. and as i noted, 30% and of the donations and small dollars that have come in since the verdict have been new donors. that that translates into votes. what we understand is that when somebody donates even $1, casey to a campaign, they are going to ultimately turn out and vote for that person. they are bought in. and so i think what matters to people right now isn't donald trump in downtown manhattan a case that everybody can see was weighed against him that never should have seen the light of day. they care about their lives, they care about the fact that they can't make ends meet right now that it's harder to put food on the table for their families that they can't fill their gas take-up in the same way that they're worried about the future of the world because we have a war in europe, we have a war in the middle east. they want to get back to the days when they felt safe and secure as americans with their economy and with the rest of the world. and we know who brought that to them. it was donald j. trump and i believe they're going to come out and vote for him solely because of that. >> how much of the money that is being raised that has been raised is going to be used to pay for the former president's legal fees well, everybody has an option whenever they donate to our joint fundraising agreement to opt out of it is a very small percentage of the money that we take in. >> and so i would have to say, well, wait and see what is necessary in the future. obviously, this has been a very costly thing, not just for donald trump and his campaign, but for america. this stain that this has put on our country i think is abominable. and we'll do whatever we need to do to ensure that the right thing happens on november 5th because that's when the ultimate verdict will be rendered. >> republican senate candidate larry hogan in maryland. and again, i'm asking this in your capacity as one of the co-chairs of the entire republican party and he's a popular former governor in maryland. he wrote this ahead, right ahead of the verdict. he said, quote, regardless of the result, i urge all americans to respect the verdict and the legal process that is not the republican party line at the moment. and in fact, he was attacked by the top trump adviser, chris lacivita, who wrote that he quote, just ended your campaign, end quote. >> does the republican national committee support larry hogan for senate? well, i'll tell you one thing. i don't support what he just said there. i think it's ridiculous and i think anybody who's not speaking up in the face of really something that should never again have seen the light of day a trial that would never have been brought against any other person aside from the rnc has supported the respect of anyone well, there's a respective anymore do you he doesn't deserve a destructive anyone in the republican party at this point. and quite frankly, anybody in america, if that's the way you feel that's very upsetting to hear that. >> so are you willing to cede the senate seat in maryland to the democratic party and not support larry hogan what i'll tell you is that we of course want to win as a party, but that is a shame and i think he should have thought long and hard before he said that publicly do you are you willing to use republican party resources to support his bid or not? >> it sounds like you're saying you're not well i'll get back to you on all the specifics monetarily. but what i can tell you is that as the republican party co-chair, i think you should never have said something like that. i think that's ridiculous. >> okay. >> and finally, we are of course, five months out from the election. and we haven't heard a lot of republicans give straight answers to what but is a pretty simple question about the election. so i just want to ask you directly, it will you commit to accepting the election results in 2024 of course, is if this is a free, fair and transparent election, absolutely. >> and actually we're doing everything we can from the rnc to ensure that indeed that happens. we are working in overtime to make sure that every american republican, democrat and independent feels good about our electoral process because casey, we can't repeat an election like we had in 2020 where you had half the country with huge sweeping questions about what happened that never got answered. that's show you. i didn't wins. >> we need transparency will mean is a free and fair collection. absolutely. >> you guys, if donald trump wins, will you accept those results? >> because that's the real question everybody has said, will we accept them? of course, we will, but we want to the lesson and zero evidence. widespread fraud that couldn't change the ultimate outcome and it's not most of those lawsuits were were swept out the way on clerical errors. and actually, if you look at people who were told that the hunter biden laptop story was a fake story. >> enough of them would have voted against joe biden and for donald trump, that it's solely would have swung the election in and of itself. >> so that alone is enough. but then people are really wanted to know, well what happened across the country. we never got those answers. i can tell you, yes. we will accept the results of this election if we feel that it is free, fair, and transparent, and we are working over time to ensure that indeed that happens. >> all right, the co-chair of the republican national committee, lara trump. thank you very much for being with us this morning. i appreciate your time. >> thank you all right. >> he was going to donald trump's biggest antagonists in congress, the senate candidate and congressman adam schiff is here next and a republican governor opposed trump in the primaries. >> what does he think of the verdict stay with us russia we're trying to spy on us. we were spying on them i was hadi friday this is a war, but secret war, secrets and spot hi guys, a nuclear game from years tonight at ten on cnn it's so easy to get your windshield replaced using safe flight until the people i haven't done it already, my mint, let's start off as a ship and grew into a crack and it just keeps going. so what do we do now? 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well, first, in terms of large trump's interview and her complaining about the case being tried to new york before new york jury if you don't want to be tried in front of a new york jury, then maybe don't commit somebody crimes in new york city it's pretty simple. and that jury was selected in part by donald trump and his attorneys they've edit each of the jurors. he had every right that every other criminal defendant has in that courtroom and they found this ordinary jury of peers found him guilty on every single count. so if you don't want to be tried in new york, don't commit crimes in new york but he got the same due process as any other person. and that's exactly the way it should be in terms of donald trump's comments about whether the public reaches a breaking point if he is sentenced to jail time this is clearly donald trump, once again inciting violence potential violence, when he is sentenced and lara trump may try to explain it away. we see this pattern over and over again where donald trump communicates with his base supporters making it pretty clear what he wants to see and then his enablers tried to explain it away, but luck, his baseless is to him, they don't listen to lara tr

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