message to the world from the hallowed shores of normandy. well, never saying the word trump. the president implicitly warned of the threat. he believes his election your opponent poses to us democracy as for donald trump, he's using his guilty verdict on 34 counts to rile up his base on the campaign trail as some swing state voters tells cnn don't care about what happened in that new york courtroom and i'll go one-on-one with the former house speaker, nancy pelosi. she is in france for d-day commemorations and will weigh in on the president's message overseas and all of the drama with her congressional colleagues right here in washington i'm dana bash. >> let's go behind the headlines and inside politics first up, a presidential complete from the cliffs pointe-du-hoc, where american soldiers turned the tide of world war ii, 80 years ago. today, joe biden is asking the american people to honor the legacy of those heroes gather here today just not just to honor those who showed such remarkable bravery on that day, june 6, 6, 1944 so listen to the echoes of their voices, to hear them because they are summing us. >> and there's somebody that's now they ask us what will we do? they're not asking us to scale these cliffs, but they're asking us to stay true to what america stands for. they're not asking us to give a risk our lives. but there are asking us to care for others in our country more than ourselves they're not asking us to do their job they're asking us to do our job to protect freedom in our time to defend democracy, to stand up progression abroad. and at home that's speech capped off two days of d-day commemorations in normandy. biden met with an assortment of world leaders this week, including ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy, where he announced a new 225 million military aid package and apologized for the months long holdup in military assistance i want to bring in three terrific reporters here on this friday with me cnn's gloria borger, cnn's jeff zeleny and molly ball of the wall street journal hello. >> how are you? happy friday. >> gloria put this biden's speech in context. next a global context of u.s. historical context of joe biden history. well, the first thing you think of obviously at 0.2 hoc is ronald reagan and his speech about the boys 0.2 hoc. and i think what joe biden was interestingly doing today was saying a lot of the same things that ronald reagan was saying. and if you remember as a young senator, he wasn't exactly a huge fan of ronald reagan's but i think he was making the point that america remains great, that it doesn't need to be made great. again and i think that he this is the whole framework of his campaign. you know, he'll talk about the economy and inflation and all the rest of it. but this is what drives joe biden is this notion of american democracy, american exceptionalism and and he was trying to be optimistic, not pessimistic. and i think that that that came through. he said, you'll never convince me america isn't great. yeah. >> i'm glad you mentioned ronald reagan. let's play a little bit of that speech from the same spot 40 years ago we in america have learned bitter lessons from two world wars it is better to be here ready to protect the peace than to take blind shelter across the sea rushing to respond only after freedom is lost. we love the way back machine here on it's also, it's a lot easier to give a speech when it's cloudy than it is when it's bright. yeah. >> for sure. i think the most striking thing just comparing the moments is the state of ronald reagan's republican party. what i mean, president biden, as you said, no fan in the 80s for the reagan policy, but the republican party and the standard bear donald trump, has a completely different view of america's place in the world. that is also front and center in this presidential campaign. so i think overall, if you talk to biden advisers and people who are close to him, they want him to be strong. they said strength is key to reelection. but what's unclear to me if foreign policy strength is actually as helpful on the domestic stage as it once was, because the foreign policy has been so roiled in the aftermath of america's luck longest wars in afghanistan, iraq, it just is a completely different moment. so the foreign policy is not president biden's ticket to reelection, it's his love, the chairman of the foreign relations committee obviously as vice president, traveled around the world as much or more than any, but it is such a different moment at molly and i want you to weigh in and when second about how the republican party is changed but you talk about the parallels. 40 years ago, a president running for reelection. at that point when ronald reagan gave that speech 40 years ago, it had a very very big effect yes, on him domestically in his race, which he ended up winning in a landslide, is numbers mine up. now, i don't know that that'll happen for joe biden because people aren't voting on foreign policy. if you look at the polling they seem to trust donald trump more on foreign policy than joe biden. maybe that comes from the withdrawal and afghanistan, i mean, who who knows, but this is definitional for biden. it's the way he sees himself. and he'd like the public to see him this way. but i don't think that's the case. >> i mean, look, he's eight years older than reagan was at that time so i mean contemporaries. but again of a very different time, but still for the voters out there who want a sense of order a break from the chaos. i think this is the message that price president biden offers for them. >> well, and i think the problem to your point is that so many people look at the world today and see mostly chaos. and i think that's the reason that trump gets better marks for foreign policy, despite all the chaos and instability that we remember from his term as president and so much of the world, i've just been an asia where there's a similar sense of of concern about the potential for a donald trump return to the presidency and all the uncertainty that, that potentially represents. but i think the american people look at that contrast as ever since the withdrawal and afghanistan but also with the wars in ukraine and in gaza, they see a world it's on fire, on joe biden's watch and i think some of his republican critics who are not in that more trumpian isolation a school of foreign policy would argue that trump, despite rhetoric which was very different than the high-minded rhetoric we hear from joe biden but trump in his actions was able to project strength in the world in a way that they would argue that rhetoric, trump's rhetoric could not be more different from the ronald reagan, a rhetoric we just heard and that kind of approach, the world that defined the party that donald trump heads right now. and you wrote a great piece with a spotlight on this very notion. and we have the headline up their gop hawke tries to reassure a world on edge about trump. this is about one specific senator who is, as you say, a hawk republican senator dan sullivan of alaska he and mitch mcconnell you just want to quickly put up the headline of what mcconnell said in a new york times op-ed yesterday, we cannot repeat the mistakes of the 1930s. they are trying to make the case for the party to go back to the approach of ronald reagan, but they're in the minority yeah. >> well, they aren't. if you look at the final vote on that military supplemental, in the end which 32 republicans, which is more than half of the republican conference did vote for it. so speaking with mcconnell about this issue, speaking with people like senator dan sullivan about this issue, they say, look, that is a majority of republicans. we did eventually get there. but it was an uphill battle and that does tell you that this sense of isolationism that obviously trump exemplify faisal, though he never also came out against a chair that military funding never came out against the funding for ukraine was just sort of dancing around it. but again, i think there are a lot of open questions about how he would approach the world. and so this faction of the party with which biden has a lot in common, biden a lot of the things that biden wants to do, they want to do that's why there's this continuity with reagan. but there is this rising force in the party that's pushing in the other direction in that i think is why there's just so much uncertainty about what a second isn't it isn't it a great irony though the joe biden, no fan of ronald reagan's, is now portraying himself as more in touch with ronald reagan then the republican party. yep yeah, absolutely. >> and then the republican party's nominee, such a such a crystallized way to see how much the world has strained time on the part, eric and politics all right, everybody standby because while joe biden is overseas, he got another blockbuster jobs port right here at home, the economy added 272,000 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tour is also about revenge and we heard donald trump talk about that really within moments of taking the stage in arizona yesterday, he called the verdict rigged, and he also claimed that if he did not went on appeal in this case, that there would quote no country anymore. and so he really escalated some of that retribution rhetoric that we've heard from him and his allies over the past week now, but donald trump also surprisingly stayed somewhat on message and my conversations with the trump campaign, they've told me that they really want to leave his trial in the past and shift back to his general election campaign. and that means focusing on the issues that they think will help get him elected in november. and one of the most crucial issues is immigration. it's something that they think is one of joe biden's biggest vulnerabilities. and really the biden campaign and the biden administration, i should say delivered somewhat of a blow to donald trump this week on that issue with this executive order attempting to crack down on illegal immigration. we heard donald trump bash that order during his speech yesterday. take a listen you people know better than just about anybody about the southern border because they are pouring through your state at levels. nobody's ever seen before. >> two days ago, joe biden signed an executive order to officially declare his formal approval and support for the largest border or invasion in the history of the world. >> so this has been the largest invasion in history. we've never, we are being invaded so if you hear things here, dana and i want to be very clear, the biden executive order actually does the opposite of what donald trump was saying in that speech. >> it attempts to shut off access to asylum for immigrants who cross the southern border illegally. and also remember that this is one of this is an order that donald trump actually attempted to do himself while in office, but got blocked by the courts. but i think the key thing here to remember what this messaging is, that this is an issue that donald trump wants to be the key voice on. he wants immigration to be the issue that he owns. >> and so he's doing as much as he can try and to attack this order during his speeches yesterday and also later this weekend in las vegas. >> yeah. >> very important points there. >> lana. thank you so much for that reporting. my colleagues and friends are here with me still, geoff, you were in wisconsin this week? >> maybe. >> all of the swing states are important, but i would say right now, wisconsin seems to be like the most important when it comes to what's going to happen i want to play for our viewers your conversation with tony decayed duker. duker, you know, i look to you because i am i he's a trump supporter a blob of the bird's eye back conviction last week helps present on trump file. i think it's going to make president trump more popular. it's going to give him james have more popularity. i think he's going to do great this time round the next five months. i'm hoping that keeps that type of rhetoric to a minimum i'm hoping you focuses on the policies of the past and what president biden's done, and what his view, his vision of the future well-being let's see pretty much indicative of the other voters you talked to their about not really caring very much about what happened in new york. >> sharma, he thinks it's a sham. he's glad that it's over and thinks it's indicative that trump raised a lot of money over it. but he said he hopes he doesn't dwell on it. and that is sort of a central question here. in one respect, it's like good luck with that. i mean, because that's what donald trump does. but in tune into the dr. phil interview? exactly. yeah. but in another respect, he speaks to the kind of republican that i think is so interesting. >> he wanted desantis to win the primary, not because he didn't like donald trump, but he was ready to move on. and he lives in a suburb in zaki county wisconsin, the town of cedar berg, the joe biden won by 19 votes, the first democratic carried in a quarter century. so those are the places in america that we'll have our ion on on november 5 and he believes that if trump talks about policies it will help him in the suburbs not dwell on the conviction will see, well, i think this is so relevant to the conversation we were having previously about foreign policy, right? because a lot of what joe biden has tried to do with his soaring rhetoric about marci is also connect that to the domestic debate. the importance of democracy at home, the attack on democracy that he would argue that donald trump represents in the way he's attack the rule of law and institutions like the court in the wake of, for example, the criminal verdict. but that's only one of many, right instances where trump has done this. so i think we see that the biden campaign doing this more and more, trying to connect the democracy argument between foreign policy and domestic policy because he knows that trump is going to continue to marinate in these grievances. he's not going to suddenly turn this election into a seminar on tax policy for final word on this. well, all these all these voters who are we're saying, you know, i wish he would just stick to the topics i like him. i wish you would stick to the topics of the rhetoric. well, that's just never going to happen. it's never going to happen. it's going to be about retribution is going to be about revenge. it's going to be about the rig trial and he talks about immigration. but his campaign wants him to talk about other things. and that's not who donald trump is. and your debate, dana, it'll be interesting to see whether he turns every conversation back to the rig, the rig trial, the rigged election, his grievances, retribution, et cetera, et cetera. >> thank you, guys. all vio for great reporting. you can see more objects. traffic reporting from wisconsin on cnn.com coming up next, nancy pelosi is in france fo