breaking news of federal jury finding hunter biden, the president at a previously scheduled event on gun safety, and we just learned that afterwards he will be traveling to delaware to be with his son or last hour, the special prosecutor in the case gave his first statements since the jury reached their decision this morning here's david weiss this case was about the illegal choices defendant made while in the throes of addiction. >> his choice to lie on a government form when he bought a gun and the choice to them possess that gun, it was these choices. and the combination of guns and drugs that made his conduct dangerous second no one in this country is above the law everyone must, be accountable for their actions. even this defendant however hunter biden, should be no more accountable than any other citizen convicted of this same conduct. the prosecution has been and will continue to be committed to this principle some jurors though, are now questioning whether this case should have even been brought with one woman saying to cnn that it seemed like a waste of taxpayer dollars. >> this is someone who who served on the jury another one calling the process, quote, frustrating because he quote felt like we couldn't get the full story. >> let's take you now, live outside the federal courthouse in delaware with cnn's paula reid. >> we also have cnn's kayla tausche with us at the white house. first two you, paulo, what else are jurors saying about this historic verdict? >> this is fascinating, boris, our colleague hanna rabinovitz talked to several jurors to get these details about what exactly happened in the deliberation rib. and yesterday when they took their first vote, which is usually what you do when you go into the back to begin your deliberations, you hold a group, say, where are we in? so these three counts, who's for a conviction and acquittal, who's not sure. one of the jurors tells hana that it was 66, so it was split half and half. we know there's a jury is comprised of six men six women. it is a majority-black jury. we learned when they came back this morning, it was 111 in favor of conviction. so at least some jury first went home and after some more reflection after they got some sleep, they decided that they were in fact convinced the prosecutors had prove this case beyond a reasonable doubt. we learned that the other jurors really focused on that one holdout and convinced that individual that prosecutors had proven the elements of knowingly knowingly a significant because ie when he filled out that form on e firem, he knowingly lied that he was either using or addicted to illegal drugs. and we have kind of mixed mixed verdict from the jury on whether this was a worthy pursuit. one juror telling hannah that they believe this was a waste of taxpayer money, but they thought they had no choice but to convict based on the instructions that they were given by the judge but then another juror that manu raju night i talked to on error, said that he believed that yeah, it was a legitimate pursuit, so it seems like even though they were unanimous in their conviction, a little bit of a mixed verdict in terms of whether this case which has come under criticism even from prominent republicans like lindsey graham i'm in representative matt gaetz mixed verdict from the jurors as to whether this was a good use of taxpayer money in kayla, do you how is the president responding house the white house reacting? >> oh, briana, the president is now scheduled to travel to wilmington, delaware later this afternoon. that travel expected to come after he delivers public remarks at an event here in washington on gun safety issues and gun violence prevention. he was expected to talk about what does administration has done to pass common sense gun laws. and two pursue things like expanded background checks. some of those background checks, of course, at the heart of the form that the president's son, hunter biden, was now found by a jury to have lied on in those convictions that came out today, the president did release an official statement that echoed much of the support that he has shown for his son, hunter in the past, that statement, if i may read it, it says as i said last week, i am the president, but i am also a dad, jill and i love our son and we are so proud of the man he is today. he goes on to say so many families who have had loved ones battle addiction, understand the feeling of pride seeing someone you love come out the other side and be so strong and resilient in recovery. as i also said last week, i will accept the outcome of this case and will continue to respect the judicial process as hunter considers an appeal, jill and i will always be there for hunter and the rest of our family with our love and support. nothing will ever change that you may remember the biden family was two gather in delaware in the days preceding the beginning of the trial last week when president biden was traveling in france for the 80th anniversary of d-day and a state visit. the first lady traveled back and forth to be in the courtroom to support hunter and to support hunters daughter. the bidens grand daughter, naomi biden, as the defense called her as a witness to testify phi the first lady, again, appearing in court shortly after the verdict was read. today's so that biden's are making no secret of their desire to be there for hunter and be there for the broader family as they are going through this. but as the president said in his statement, they are willing to let the judicial system speak for itself. here. >> alright. kayla tausche, paula reid. thank you. to you both. we appreciate it let's discuss now with our panel, we have seen in legal analyst elliot williams, cnn special correspondent jamie gan, gail, cnn contributor and biden biographer evan osc knows republican strategists. >> sure. michael singleton and former biden white house communications director, kate betting the field and kd, as a former communications director for president biden, what do you anticipate he's going to say at this speech? does he mostly stick to the script as he mentioned, that at all, i would be very surprised if he mentioned that at all. i think he's been very disciplined about not speaking about this case. he saw him put out a written statement where he reiterated what he's essentially said from the start which as he loves his son, he supports his son. obviously, he is showing with his feet by going to wilmington that he supports this done that he's there for his son you know, there's not a huge imperative for the president to turn the narrative toward conversation of this and adding a topper to this event and bringing the conversation back. there doesn't make a whole lot sense. so i do really, really surprised if he add something at the top of his remarks, not impossible that he might take a question from reporters on his way out the door but i would expect that he will probably be focused on the topic at hand here. this sure. michael was a previously scheduled event, but it is on gun safety and we heard just a short time ago, david weiss, the us to tourney, the special counsel who oversaw this prosecution, talking about how it was a combination of drug use and choices. this combination of drugs and guns that was dangerous. so you have the gun trial and you have this gun event and i just wonder what you think about that. >> yeah. i mean, you so the next system so when you complete form 44, 73 for you in order to possess or purchase a firearm or to transfer a firearm or the pick up either transfer of a firearm, you complete that document, the ffel holder typically at a gun shop, will run your information through knicks, national instant background check system, which is an existence because of the 93 brady act, president biden knows a whole lot about that mr. make sure that you don't have any criminal background in order to legally possess a gun. >> so it is interesting that the president is speaking about this issue, yet his son, for the most part, would have been able to successfully complete the background check, were it not for his inability to do so because he used illegal substances? >> i do wonder though, and i mentioned in this decade earlier, would the president potentially commute his sons sentence to avoid scotus being able to take a look at this and say, wait a minute, we do need to make some changes because this is in violation of the second amendment. but i think that's a fascinating topic for the white house to consider it's a really interesting question. >> i don't think that the president, whatever view this as a gun safety strategic issue, i think to him, first and foremost, it's an issue of the president not inappropriately intervening in the judicial system and then secondly, of course, it's an issue for his family, so i would i would be very surprised if he used it in that strategic way. i don't think that's the lens through which seeing let's pivot away from the politics for a moment because obviously this is one of two cases, federal cases that hunter biden is facing and elliott, as we look at a potential sentence, we have to await whatever he's going to face in california. >> but what do you anticipating might come not a lot. that's not all this talk about sweetheart deals and it we're talking about a federal sentencing guidelines here and they're quite clear for gun possession offenses. number one, where the firearm was not possess was not brandished during the commission of the offense. number two, with the defendant, that does not have a criminal history. number three, those things in all likelihood lead to a prison sentence within the guideline range of i believe zero to six months now, to be clear, the judge can go below that or above that if he can shape pardon me, can justify a reason for doing so if she thinks it's in the public interest or eff to rehabilitate this defendant or to keep the public safe, should certainly she could go higher or if she felt that even a prison sentence of two or three months, whatever that might be, would still be two onerous in this case, you'd go below. i'm just giving probation or so on. but the simple fact is the law is clear, passed by congress. and ratified over years of people being sentenced, that this particular three convictions will not lead in all likelihood do much prison time. >> it's interesting hearing from the jurors. the jurors convicted him on all three charges on this jamie, and yet we've heard from multiple jurors different things. one woman who said it seemed like a waste of taxpayer dollars, another man who said he doesn't think that hunter biden should see jail time. i don't know if everyone pays attack and shin to the ins and outs of things. although i wish they would because i think it's pretty interesting to hear from the people who convicted him and what they think about this. >> so i thought the most fascinating thing was hearing from juror number ten, who did an interview with us. we protected his identity. it made you crazy. my mind i want to be clear as for the benefit of viewers for people who are interested in how the system works. it's a fascinating, beautiful look inside the jury room that makes prosecutors had because of the risk of that person making some statement that suggests that they brought in other information or other factors that could jeopardize and get the whole thing thrown out. and it happens. >> but at the end of the day, what he really said was the common sense prevailed. he said that the jury believed that hunter was an addict at the time he filled out the form, so they answered that question. and then he said, i believe and the jury believed he did knowingly by the gun, knowing he was addicted. pretty pretty common sense. the other thing that i just thought was interesting was we asked him, was the jury influenced by the biden family? and you could really see this was a delaware jury because first juror number ten said not at all. put it out of our mind. >> but when he talked about members of the biden family, he called the first lady, jill that's a delaware and hallie and naomi, they know the members of the family taking off my annoying prosecutor hat, the most important thing he said was that they weren't unanimous. >> they came back in the morning and were close to unanimous and then got there and the law would have required them to do that if they'd come back and said that we can't agree with each other. the judge would have instructed them to come back and figure out a way to do so. the system, this is why we don't have that many hung juries are split verdicts because the system sort of urges people to do so when it worked, the jurors also talked about how they didn't factor in who hunter biden was the president's son into their deliberations. i do have some sound from one of the jurors talking about naomi campbell's testimony. let's listen to that. >> i felt bad that they put naomi on trial witness i i think that was probably a strategy that should not have been done no. >> no daughter should ever have to testify or again sir, dad so just to be clear naomi campbell test if no, she didn't really biden. all right. >> we have evan austin us with a biographer whose closely followed joe biden's life and his family. obviously this case extremely personal how do you think they're absorbing this result? and as the president heads to wilmington after this speech, what do you imagine the atmosphere in that room as he meets with hunter is going to be like yeah, this family really for the 50 years that they've been in public life, had had this kind of unusual awareness of the tragic sensibility. >> i mean, the reality of tragedy in your life and the tragedy in this case was no question about it. was hunter biden's descent into this period of addiction he'd struggled with it in the course of his life before that, but it was really the death of his brother in 2015 that sent him and ultimately the whole family down this really dark period. i think one of the things we've learned from this case is this is important we try to understand the lives of our presidents in this country is we've gained a much deeper understanding of what was happening in joe biden's life in the years between 2017 and 2021 when he was out of office before he came back in as president after the vice presence, they were dealing with just a tremendously difficult and grueling period. and it is still will now unfolding and you see them gathering in wilmington as they always have done over the years, joe biden used to spend the night, as you know, in delaware, even when he was in the senate because he was a single father. so there is a way in which they are returning to the hometown to begin to regroup evan. thank you so much obviously, a look into how the bidens are approaching this and elliott, i know that you just wanted us and we'd been talking about sentencing. tell us what i want to be clear. it could be higher than that zero to six figure. i'd given the sentencing guidelines are exceptionally complicated, it may be upwards of 12 months but there are a number of factors including the nature of the prohibition, the nature of the statute, and so on. needless to say, you're looking at a period of months too low, one years or but not met several years in prison, like so when we hear this, well, he's looking at 25 years in prison. that's certainly not accurate. that's just if you go so with the ceiling that one could get an a quickly elliott. yeah. how does the california case potentially impact the sentencing for this gang case? well, doesn't it? well, in terms of the timing, the judge will likely wait until and sentence both until after we know what happens to the california case, this could have an effect on the california sentencing because now he has a felony conviction on his record. good. which would certainly button a criminal history which would bump up his sentencing and in the california, you would serve concurrently. >> well, they're it all depends on how the judge's cut it up. >> now this is multiple charges. they would be lumped concurrently and then it would be up to the judge in california to determine how to sentence after that. >> all right. panel, please stay with us and stamina by were waiting to hear from the president at a gun safety event due to speak at any moment, just hours after the conviction of his son on federal gun charges, will bring you the president's remarks as they happen, they would see an you guys. i got welcome first, we did the impossible. >> you age so many of the impossible that we completely ran out. >> and now there foot locker cookies back-end subway dad is a legend at his legendary moves might be passed down to you. >> ancestry dna can show you which traits were inherited where they came from and who he shares them with. but get moving the sale is old leaf are limited time. >> oh, carney asada. >> it's gotten me. i saw them. that's what i got god-man, saada carnegie got to me, but with more flavored gardening, carnage, icing it like this. >> juicy hernia saada, harnik, i did it aging take care of it with gold ponds, age, renew formulation of seven moisturizers and three vitamins for all your skin's cold bond from medium rare two, well done so many ways to save life ready, while it happy, that's 365 by whole foods market it's germs day but neutrogena, ultra-sharp your sunscreen is still on the clock, vital sun protection goes six layers de, blocking 97% of burning uv rays. >> it's light, but it's working hard. >> he liked me neutrogena ultras year sunscreen. i brought in a juror max protein with 30 grams of protein. those who tried me felt more energy adjust two weeks here, i'll take that protein, 30 grams protein one prim sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals, and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic vice helping me get my mind to achieve my ambitions. want to see like earning more money on my money as the head chef, ready for service and saving to give back to local producers stuff i can help find any ambition you're hungry to achieve. like investing in everyone's dinner table. >> thank was so phi to earn a higher apy and an epic welcome bonus cell phi get your money right in three seconds. >> what is couple will share oh, perfect moment. >> but we got to solar houses. well almost perfect don't worry, just sell directly to open door, closing a matter of days when life stores open, we'll handle the house with armor all a little bit of this protects you from a lot of that armor all less work, more clean we're trying to save the planet with nuggets because we need the planet and we also need nuggets impossible. >> we're setting the meat problem with more meat, itch, scratch must not stop the if sanity with cortisone tan fur bug bites poison ivy and other edges, cortisone ten is number one. >> doctor recommended. it works fast and lasts for hours. cortisone ten lactate. is 100% real melt just without the lactose delicious to just ask my old friend kevin. >> now than like enjoying the coal one while watching the game who's winning? 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