>> the push for loyalty there. if trump is looking for a loyal fighter on the ticket and one who says loyalty is incredibly important for everyone else. do jd vance showing that he is capable and willing capable and willing and flexible because we all remember back in 2016, he was one of those republicans who is very critical cool of donald trump, but looks so much has changed since then yes, he did win the straw poll at that conference over the weekend. >> he was also the only one of the potential vp candidates to actually speak in person at the event. so perhaps seeing him in the flesh was actually one of the reasons he was supported. but look, he has become one of the biggest defenders of the president. there was no no doubt that he is on the shortlist. we know this because he's been spending significant time with former president donald trump. he'll be doing so again on thursday evening in cleveland, when trump goes there for a fundraiser, jake, so much of this vip stakes, if you will, husband sort of playing out right in front of our eyes, these auditions have been happening in real time. the former president well, pick one or a couple of them to fly with him to travel with them to appear at rallies with him. and he wants the buzz in the conversation to be about all of them as he makes up his own mind, talking to trump advisers. they say, look, he is going to make up his own decision. he is not going to get a much input from the outside, but it's who he feels comfortable with. but there's no doubt j.d. vance at 39-years-old, the youngest person on the list has proven himself as a strong fighter and defender of trump on television and we know that that is what the former president likes more than anything, perhaps his skills on television, he's ambitious though the question is he too ambitious? that'll be one of the questions. wait here. >> so speaking of people who sounded very different about trump in 2016, as they do now in 2024, senator marco rubio of florida, they fought each other for the republican nomination. now, rubio was reported to be there near the top of trump's shortlist as well. >> he is, and we all remember those fiery debates when the two would stand on stage and marco rubio the time a took great pleasure in making fun of donald trump. >> all that is in the past, i was talking to a rubio adviser, um, earlier and reminded me that they actually a bury the hatchet, if you will, during the trump administration, president a trump had senator rubio and his wife over to the white house for a series of dinners they made a friendship then, and he worked with him in the administration. there is no one who has been on the record so much against trump, who has completely changed his tune. he is absolutely a strong defender of donald trump. it would also bring several things to the ticket get one challenge, of course, he is a resident of florida trump, also a resident of florida. the constitution essentially prohibits that. it's not been a tested woody move someplace else would trump ignore that. we will see, but there's no doubt that marco rubio is now in trump's good graces those insults of 2016, ancient history. >> yeah, i do remember when bush pick cheney, they were both texas residents and cheney just moved back to his home state of wyoming, theoretically, i guess trump could move to new york just because marco rubio doesn't have anywhere to move back to north, nothing trumps moving anywhere though that's the question is rubio going to move somewhere else? we'll see what we're anyway, north dakota governor doug burgum doesn't have the same name. >> recognition is a vance or rubio, but then also might be part of the appeal for trump exactly. i mean, one thing he is, he so wealthy businessman. this is something that donald trump likes more than anything. and look at him there he is central casting in the view of donald trump in terms of good looks there. again, a wealthy businessman, he made his money in microsoft, he sold his company in north dakota, a self-made man without question there he tried to run and for president earlier, this is cycle. most people likely don't remember that. that's also good because his insults of trump are a few and far between. he once said he wouldn't do business with him. he corrected that over the weekend. he said, of course he would do business with them so the rolodex that doug burgum has a could be very important to the former president. but jake, these are only three. if we look at the full list here of people that donald trump is considering, it also includes some other name's tim scott, for example, the senator from south carolina, elise stefanik, of course. she's in the house byron donalds, also in the house? ben carson, of course, they close friend of donald trump's. and on from there. so one thing we do know, that one month from today, this person, whoever it is, is likely to give a speech in milwaukee at the republican national convention as the vice presidential nominee jeffrey got, tom cotton also sandi tom cotton also, sorry, i did not see him on the list, yes. senator from arkansas. >> we just had them on state of the union. yes. exactly. and his wife from nebraska, of course. so he is also on the list, but one month from today, there'll be no walkie rascals own jeff's, eleanor. thanks so much. appreciate it. let's bring in our political panel of bring him back to weigh in on this and more, let's stay with the va keep stakes. congressman byron donalds was on the graphic there, a florida and he is not shy about explaining why he would be a good running mate here he is on meet the press. they could listen it's obviously the toughest job, the biggest job, not just in our politics, but really frankly in the world look, i think that i would have an ability to step in. i'm actually pretty intelligent. i can sift through issues really, really well. do i believe in myself 100% i do what you are a former trump administration official from trump white house official. >> who do you think would be the best pick? i'm not predicting. i'm not saying tell me what you think troubled by cpu. do you think would be the best pack? i think there's several great candidates get some who had pick one governor doug burgum unquestionably qualified and questioned whether it's the private sector as governor, senator tom cotton i think senator tim scott center, marco rubio maybe congressman byron donalds, but i'll tell you that byron donalds is clearly not shy about it, but it's also earned a lot of goodwill with donald trump because you've got to remember i have all those candidates, only one of them was actually introducing ron desantis the night that he won reelection as governor and his byron donalds, he and his wife are close personal friends with governor desantis, yet he became with the highest profile endorsers and most active surrogates for donald trump of that primary process during gate built them. >> a lot of goodwill with president trump in those around him we'll see if he actually makes the final cut, but i expect it's i think it's unlikely it's gonna be someone from the house, so probably be someone who either served his cabinet or is it a senate or maybe a gun governor he didn't narrow it down at all. all right. anyway, on saturday night at a democratic fundraiser in los angeles, president biden had a lot to say, atlantic. he was very, very critical of us supreme court. here's just an excerpt the supreme court has never been as out of kilter as it is today i mean, never i taught constitutional law for nine years. this guy knows more about it than most look, fact of the matter is that this has never been a court that's been this far out of step. >> this is a big issue for democrats. i think. >> yeah, it's a huge issue. i mean, i i've been on the road with a lot of democrats over the past couple of years talking to voters on both sides of the aisle about the supreme same court. and this is the lowest polling and confidence that we have seen in the supreme court's, you have a lot of voters, majority of voters wanting ethics reform, wanting expansion or term limits. and a lot of this happened after the dobbs decision and the polling shows that the decrease in confidence continued after affirmative action so we see that there are a couple of supreme court justice who have openly say that they want to retire under a republican president. this is the critical issue that should move a lot of democrats and it has been an issue not just this election. hillary clinton also talked about in 2016. obviously we know how that campaign went, but i think more of our base is paying attention to what is happening especial a dobbs in the affirmative action, it's a smart strategy to run on. >> i think there are probably trump's supporters out there who think that if donald trump said this about a liberal us supreme court, people would be setting their hair on fire. yeah, saying look at this, he's going up, the judiciary has no respect, for instance tuitions. do you agree do you think that there's a double standard here? i do think that present biden has to be very careful in the way he's talking about these issues. otherwise, it's going to undermine what he's now saying. it's the entire premise of his campaign that he is saying that he is the one that's going to defend american institutions, defend democracy well, last time i checked the constitution, the supreme court is a third coequal branch of government and so if he's going to show respect to the institution, clearly he's going to disagree with supreme court rulings, right? i mean, we've had presidents for since our founding, disagree with supreme court rulings. but to go after them as an institution, i think does a lot to not just undermine the credibility of the institution because undermine the key argument he's trying to make this campaign but respectfully, matt, we might disagree given our positions and our sides of the aisle, but i think the conversation around respecting the institution comes when there are conservative justices who aren't reporting the trips that they're taking. >> they're not holding themselves accountable to the way that their wives are showing up and very partisan ways let's talk, but, that is where the american people have raised their concerns. and therefore, we know how a conservative president will appoint justices who are loyal to him versus loyalty to the constitution, which we have seen so many of these activist justices do so, but i'm sure you would agree with one part of what i'm going to air right now, what we're going to run right now from president biden i'm still talking about the us supreme court and what the stakes are when it comes to the november election regarding the court, let's roll that tape the next president is likely to have two new supreme court nominees two more, two more? >> he's already appointed to that are been very negative in terms of the rights of individuals. the idea that if he's reelected, he's going to appoint two more flying flags upside down is really i'm i really mean so first of all, just for the record, trump appointed three supreme court justice is not to but beyond that, here are the ages of supreme court justices. thomas and 75. alito, 74, robert, 69. so to my your 69, i mean, he's not wrong. whoever wins in november could appoint two, maybe even more. >> and look, that was a big reason why conservative voters in 2016 who were still a little skeptical of donald trump as a candidate. that point came around his candidacy. i mean, i remember looking at pulling in. we're just talk about michigan for conservative evangelical western michigan had not come on board with donald trump until really the last couple of months. part of it, he campaigned on the supreme court justices and the types of folks who's going to put out there. he put out a list of potential supreme court justices. it's an issue that mother, federalist society put out the list so get it together. he signed a campaign on filling that stolen seat. that mitch mcconnell tech from the from president obama, speaking of the supreme court lengthy, i want to get your take on this this morning. trump posted to truth social quote, if a president does not have immunity, the court will be opening the floodgates to prosecuting former president and opposing hostile party will be doing it for any reason. all of the time this is of course about the immunity case that we're going to hear from the supreme court is going to rule in the next few weeks about whether or not and to what degree they think donald trump has immunity from prosecution if at all? >> look, i think this speaks to what i was saying earlier about president trump is about loyalty to himself and that loyalty to the constitution we have seen some of these justices the way that they have decided in these cases are very much aligned with some of their outspoken lives who are in donald trump's pocket. and so ginni thomas and martha-ann alito exactly and so he's signaling directly to those justices what he wants them to do and to be honest, that is extremely partisan and very concerning and throws out the loyalty to the constitution that we've been talking about. >> i'll just say real quickly that those supreme court justices have impeccable credentials impeccable education on both sides, by the way, on both ideologies. i think they're making up their own decisions, not just because their spouses telling the role one layer. thanks to both of you, appreciate it. always good to have you both next on the lead quote, we have to do better. co-chair of columbia university's taskforce on antisemitism, revealing allegations of emendation and harassment and discrimination against the school's jewish students. plus a key tasks for democrats as they look to sharpen their messaging ahead of november. why one race in new york is getting so much attention? 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>> questions of harassment, intimidation hey i'm just paying isolation discrimination every word you could think of came out from students experience since is jewish students experiences at columbia making it very clear to us that a lot of system in place are not working for jewish students. what we found in the listening sessions were essentially students who felt like the burden was on them to resolve it. >> professor fuchs says they found that one professor came across what may have been a jewish sounding name before an exam and ask that student to explain their views on the israeli government's actions in gaza. also, that another professor told their class to avoid reading mainstream media to clearing quote it is owned by the jews to ask the student to defend the policies of our government in israel because they are jewish, is i don't even have words to say how ridiculous that is, but also how intimidating that is for weeks, columbia university was that the focal point of nationwide protests on college campuses over the israel-hamas war. some of those nationwide protests, scott violent in and around columbia's campus. there were similar dynamics, especially just outside campus, but at the very least, there was palpable tension. some jewish students felt unsafe to the point they chose to leave campus in the lead up to graduation. we also heard from jewish their students who did not feel that way, who said they did feel safe on campus. and we also heard from muslim and arab students who also felt unsafe. i know this is an anti-semitism task force, but play appropriate question. but, but how do you deal with that dynamic? >> we are hoping that our recommendations will be relevant and be used to deal with all students who are feeling unsafe or discriminated against. we were asked to be the antisemitism task force to do the work around that the president try to constitute an islamophobia taskforce and could not find faculty to be on it. we would have preferred to have it as islamophobia to ask what's right next to us doing the work with us because this is a broader issue at a university official told cnn they didn't get enough professor bye in that for the administration, there was a will, but no willingness from those were calling for it. >> the university has to do better. >> you know, if we're, if we're about educating which is our primary mission, education and research are our primary missions. >> we have to do better the taskforce already put out a report largely focusing on columbia's rules around an protesting and recommendations on that front, which the university president says, she she supports. >> but this next report is one that's going to focus a lot more on campus cl