>> right now and the federal gun trial for hunter biden, the prosecution has rested their case, not now -- hunter's attorney has called one of the employees from the store that sold hunter biden that gun, they are also expected to call the owner of that store along with that daughter naomi, and the brother of james. hello, everyone this is outnumbered i and kayleigh mceany. joining me today, sandra smith, fox business anchor, dagen mcdowell. most of the kennedy save the world podcast, kennedy. and ian prior. yesterday, we heard salacious testimony from harry biden. the widow of the late brother, who began a romantic relationship and she testified that hunter introduced her to crack and cocaine. she also recalled the moment when she found a gun and hunter's truck and how she threw it away outside a local supermarket, you can see the footage there, this is the newly released surveillance video, giving us our first glimpse at the very moment set this case and motion. with that, let's go to lucas, outside the courthouse in wilmington lucas? >> that's right kaylee, as you mentioned the prosecution has rested their case and now it is over to the defense against hunter. in just a few minutes ago we caught a glimpse of two family members who are expected testify this afternoon. naomi biden that is hunter biden's eldest daughter. that is her on the right, on the left, that is james biden of course, at the, both expected to testify this afternoon. let us not skip over at the two witnesses, and did it make if they are forensic found cocaine residue inside the part is that they had the handgun, and we saw the sister-in-law and lover tossed the in that trash can. whether or not he was on drugs at a time he made that approach is that he is the crux of the prosecution's argument. this new testimony indicates according to the prosecution that he was indeed on drugs, the dea witness that they threw the text messages and offered more proof that hunter biden was doing drugs because of all the communication with drug dealers, by the way drug dealers that harry biden, the former husband who died by, both biden, they hd prosecuted routinely here and delaware. they take and practical witnesses both from the gun store where hunter barth the gun the six shooter, the same weapons that they used to the guys from the gun store rent a background check, and the owner of the gunship, the defense plans to poke holes in the two gentlemen's testimony about whether that form is legit, which of course and a 38 caliber it will hold off her right there. whether that form was filled out correctly. earlier this morning, we saw hunter biden, the stepmother, arrived at the courthouse this morning, after the d-day celebrations yesterday in normandy. there is no indication that the first lady plans to take the stand today, she is going back to europe to join the president but it is not clear who is footing the bill for that. one piece of staff here from human research, last year, only 1% of federal criminal defendants were acquitted and that could potentially mean that he might be pardoned but he said he is not going to do that ladies? >> kayleigh: thank you. it is interesting to see the first lady, coming from france and going all the way back and they are wondering if she will take the stand. >> it has been a big part of this trial. we see the first lady and you have to imagine how difficult this is for any of his family members, to sit and watch the evidence that has been presented in court as thomas was just detail and, saw in pictures how they look disheveled. holding these pipes, they watch a video of this cocaine/crack on a scale. and unfortunately, this is evidence of someone who is in the throes of addiction. this is what the prosecution is trying to prove, as i was just saying to you all in couch a moment ago when we were listening to that report, that defense is trying to say that hunter did not think of himself as an addict when he bought that gun. this is a very serious things for so many families who have lived through this or are living through this because often times addicts do not say that they are an addict. and the worst moments of their lives in the of addiction, they are not well enough to say that they are one. so, this is a tough one for both sides. >> kennedy this is a sad story. i am personally uninterested in the pictures of hunter biden and the details of his addiction, i really do hope he is better, for him and his family. 70% of americans have an addiction, so they can relate to this but this is not a story of the addiction but accountability. the laptop, we were told that it was not verified and effectiveness. how will this compare to the former presidents trial? the friendly territory for hunter biden, but not for trump, i believe in jury, so a lot of americans view that is not so much on the addiction but the accountability front. >> kennedy: they do, so many people who have suffered, they need to be removed from the active addiction and have a completely different context, take stock of your life, so people will understand that. but it was the bad choices that he made leading up to it, and also in his memoir he was very open about when and how he used drugs and how he got drugs. it was heartbreaking to hear his dead brother's widow, not talk about using crack cocaine with him, and the amount of manipulation and it took to get her to fall to such depth, with her dead husband's brother, but if that is creepy and disgusting. everyone knows this. anyone who looks at this case from a legal perspective, note that it is pretty cut and dry. the jury, more than likely will convict him and that is why the first lady is there. she just needs one juror to look at her, and be in all or intimidated by the biden mac machine. >> or sympathetic. >> again to that point. , the fact of this case are strong, they go on to say that they are a w a to -- i compare this o "the new york times," only quoted, and no state prosecutor in new york or wyoming or everywhere has ever charged federal election laws against anyone for anything not ever until trump. if, for some reason, hunter biden is acquitted, people are going to make the comparison ahead of trump sentencing where he could start off with jail time. >> ian: they should make that comparison, looking at this prosecution and the story, it is about addiction. someone who has let up depraved life. we have not seen this from the presidential side ever. i am sure in the 1800s before the mass media, they might have been instances of this, but the problem is not just his addiction. he was given access to the highest levels of power, by his own father. knowing that these problems existed. that is number one, number two, we have the laptop issue. we were not just told it was just nonsense, because we were told by all the highest form officials and in the intelligence community, but it was suppressed before an election. so, this story can this trial, and what it needs in the whole hunter biden story, it is a contrast with trump, and also showing that the left or do anything it can interfere with elections. >> kayleigh: yes, the former president -- i do wonder if "outnumbered" if i will pardon hunter biden. >> as we sit here in normandy, your son hunter is on trial and i know that you cannot speak about an ongoing federal prosecution, but let me ask you will you accept the jury's outcome? no matter when it is? >> yes. >> have you ruled that a party for your son? >> yes. >> i don't know if he's a lame duck president but -- >> kennedy: is the verdict is guilty, the father will pardon him, the media will give them a pass for everything that. number one, he is lying, it is highly possible, just like the border is closed, and inflation is only 9% when i came into office. all he does not know exactly what he is saying, that is also possible, or maybe the fix is in? but hunter is on trial for illegally obtaining a gun and not paying his taxes, that is two things that his father is actually running, pay your fair share. hunter biden, he failed to do this. until he got busted for it. i have been thinking about this for the last couple of days, a presidential son and in his mid-50s and his name is bigger direct that big boy jr. -- the highest ranking american who stormed the beaches of normandy. he led the first wave assault on utah beach and he was harvard educated and very wealthy from his world war i service and died about a month later of a heart attack. he was awarded the medal of honor. that is the son of a president. that is an american. >> ian: one thing i want to add, he said i will not parted, but we didn't think he would commute his sentence, he could get convicted and leave the conviction in place. >> kayleigh: there is some nuance there. as we speak, naomi biden is testifying, hunter biden's old and my oldest daughter. as we get the details off that we will bring them to you. more "outnumbered" just a mo moment. including ketoacidosis that may be fatal, dehydration, urinary tract, or genital yeast infections, and low blood sugar. a rare, life-threatening bacterial infection in the skin of the perineum could occur. stop taking farxiga and call your doctor right away if you have symptoms of this infection, an allergic reaction, or ketoacidosis. ♪ far-xi-ga ♪ i brought in ensure max protein with 30 grams of protein! those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. -ugh. -here, i'll take that. woo hoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams protein, 1 gram sugar, 25 vitamins and minerals. and a new fiber blend with a prebiotic. (♪) ♪ ♪ >> first there was dictator on day one, and the bloodbath narrative, now there's another disinformation step from the media, trump is out for revenge. after his interview with sean hannity this week, the media ran with these headlines. take a look. "washington post," donald trump says he had every right to seek restitution's of political foes, he said he will try to prosecute his political opponents. but trump did not say that, this is actually what he said. >> focus on those who want people to believe that you want retribution. that you want to use the system of justice so you can go after your political environment. >> has to stop, or otherwise we won't have a country. when this election is over, based on what they have done. i will have every right to go after them, we cannot have the stuff go one. because you know what, what president biden goes out, everyone says bye-bye, and that he gets and got a two days later and everyone goes after him? >> kayleigh: he said it was a terrible thing, after dr. phil's interview with donald trump, the media ran with these headlines. sometimes revenge can be justified. trump issues shelling threats. trump says that sometimes revenge can be justified and so on and so forth. you know how to go astray but once again they left out context. shocking. >> the word revenge is a very strong way. revenge does take time i will say that. and sometimes revenge can be justified. >> what if when you win this election, you said, enough is enough. too much is too much, this is a race to the bottom, and it stops here, it stops now. they have made a half a dozen or more major attempts to take you off the plane board, and you just said it stops now. i will forgive, i will not ever forget but i am not going to play this retribution game. >> i am okay with that i am. >> kayleigh: throwing the facts aside, they do not matter, because democrats want to stoke this fear. >> it is terrifying, frightening, i have a lot of conversations with former colleagues and people who are or were in the intelligence or law enforcement community and they may have worked in the obama administration and other places. people are really trying to assess what is left going to be life if trump wins a second term. on a very personal level, you deserve torturous discussions with their family members about whether or not they have to leave the country. so they may avoid being unconstitutionally or illegally detained. >> donald trump wants to put them all in jail. he is unbelievable when he talks about his opponents, donald trump could roll the score on congress and the supreme court and he wants to own every one and all because he is the dictator. >> kayleigh: firing squad? i remember them pulling these mischaracterizations, but they don't have the focal and they do not care about the full quote. >> ian: they don't care about the full quote, and these people look like they are hallucinating, this physical manifestation -- trump brings up an important part, for the longest time, politicians violate the law, when they leave office they did not get prosecuted, you go back to the late 1990s, early 2,000, in 2,000, robert gray had hillary clinton making false statements in the travel gate investigation. they did not prosecute her. but now, we connected a situation where, russia gate, they started using the official leverage of power to start going after trump. once out of office, they found a new tactic and executed it. here's the question, if the next president is -- are they gonna continue the cycle or is he going to say, i am not going to do it. but those things, if you don't do it or look at people who are breaking the law, the process will continue the next time to get intolerant. so, it is a very tough decision, and something that needs to be fought through very thoroughly. we cannot have the weapons ionization of the justice system go after political enemies. >> kayleigh: donald trump did say enough is enough, so what is intime scared of? >> kennedy: the animal noises from the people, the cries of danger from these suppose it weaseled, they tell you that they think trump is can a won, and what they have done is come back to bite him where the sun does not shine. they know that they are screwed and so screwed. because never has a president and a party and the millions in the media has shown greater disregard for the courts, the legal system, and the judicial system. democracy dies in darkness and they are shutting out the light and cut the power to the home that we know that is the united states of america. >> kayleigh: what a great irony. meanwhile, trump is saying enough is enough, but here's the former fbi director suggesting someone may meet a jail sentence. >> i would say it is unlikely any white-collar offense of this sort, but he is begging for a jail term by kicking a flamethrower not to the judge but the entire process and juried. a judge will take that very seriously into consideration and decide whether to deter this person and to send a message more broadly and need to spend some time behind those bars. >> kayleigh: we must not clarify that the defendant he is talking about. >> he hates donald trump. and that nebulous narcissistic draft, he has no place in this conversation -- i don't want to hear word from james ever again. as far as andrew mccabe, i will buy the u-haul and rented for him and amy schumer and packet with snacks. and i will point into canada. go ahead and leave this country because you have created a apparatus that to your point, can be used as political weaponization. it is wrong, it is the structure that they have built in flight then and they are complaining about it? shame on all of them. goodbye. >> it is not a theoretical exercise for andy and his friends, because we had four years of trump, and we saw all these people who looked into trump, gleevec. >> a real reputable sources that they bottom for those hard-hitting interviews. it is not the first time that we have had people that claims that they would flee the country and trump is put in office, we have heard this before. with all of this huffing and puffing, from some in the democratic party, they are talking about the major dangers to those who are currently at the fbi. where is the screaming out loud about whether or not someone might have a terrace in their backyard because of the border crisis or their affordability crisis in america right now. there's so much to be scared of such as russia or china. but this is pretty rich as far as james. >> they were able to book dracula. >> they went out to say he is not scared of retribution because he has resources. >> ian: i wish that he could get up in front of america and say all the things that hillary did but we are not going to prosecute. >> we drew that conclusion before they even interviewed her. >> kayleigh: new outreach, and a small town, this democrat led council refuse to honor this fall at officer by flying the thin blue line flank common side effects like nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea may lead to dehydration, which may cause kidney problems. with wegovy®, i'm losing weight, i'm keeping it off. and i'm lowering my cv risk. that's the power of we. ♪ ♪ check your cost and coverage before talking to your health care professional about wegovy®. >> there is new outreach in this town after the democrat lead counsel refused to fly a thin blue line flag after police officers. an officer was struck and killed during a routine traffic stop last week he was just 34 years old. he left behind a wife, two young boys. he was laid to rest this past wednesday and thousands came out to pay their final respects. but earlier this week one of the town's republican council proposed flying the sin blue line flag in his honor, and it seem like a great idea becaut is a sign of respect for those who keep the community safe. but democrats on the council voted down that proposal calling it divisive. >> i will not support the blue line flag, that is the decision. that flag, was either created or either became very prevalent to the black lives matter protest. it is antagonistic even if you don't see it that way. and i do not think that is a good flag to fly, especially not with further discussion. >> kayleigh: the frog was created in the 1950s, -- they suggested that the flag is racist. >> it is now being used by white supremacist groups and other far right types of groups. and many police departments across the country and a state of the connecticut said we do not authorize or use that flag. >> instead of flying the blue line flag flag, they flew a ranrainbow flag instead. sandra. i don't understand, this is an officer who passed away. flags are controversial and they have historic meaning and people are weaponizing them to be something different in this kind in the face of a fallen officer. >> imagine voting that down. to fly a flag in support of police officers. that is what happened here, when asked about the flag, it is viewed as antennas and it did not antagonistic even if you don't see it that way, and that is not a good flag to fly especy not without further discussion. let's have the discussion. why is that a bad thing. she supported those police because everything she has set on the record, after voting that flag down, to be flown after his death, i don't see any show of support or solidarity with the police. she also said it represented racism. antagonism, too many people. it is not appropriate to raise this above town hall, especially with the flag policy, that prohibits us from doing anything associated with hate. it is incredible. >> kayleigh: the flag represents, the line that keeps us between good and evil, bad and wrong, criminals and safety, it represents the line and the police officer who this people would call on if she was in trouble. >> the toughest job, especially when it officers killed in a line of duty, you must acknowledge and display this and respected. especially if you want to have a civil society. why not be a little bit more respectful towards law enforcement and reach out. you elect these people and they come up with these unique decisions like this. frankly i'm surprised they are not flying the palestinian flag. >> kayleigh: i am too. meanwhile the widow, she is left with two young sons to raise, the husb