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♪ ♪ howard: who's hunter biden's own voice played in a delaware courtroom that plumed the depths of his past addiction. the media are giving the trial heavy cover act as they should, but with no one coming out to talk to reporters, it feels very remoteful but it's an undeniably tawdry tale with lurid testimony from the widow of beau biden who became romantically involved with hunter after her husband's death. the argument in this trial boils down to this seemingly semantic question, whether hunter biden was doing drugs when he signed a gun purchase form and said he wasn't or just abusing alcohol at the tile. fortunately for doj special counsel, hunter biden recorded the audio, book of his memoir, so the jury not to hear his firsthand account. >> crack takes you into the darkest recesses of your soul as well as the darkest corners of every community. i had done it everywhere it had been in the last few months. i could get off a plane in timbuktu and score a bag of crack. i hardly held myself of above them. i was just as much a part of the depravity as they were. i was smoking crack every 15 minutes. howard: is he sealing his legal fate or drawing sympathy for a recovering addict? i'm howard kurtz and this is "mediabuzz." ♪ if. howard: the media have one defining feature of the coverage that a matches the trump trial, the same polarizing views. >> i just hate how the media talks about the biden family and how this is a beautiful, special relationship. the he's a crackhead. he pays for prostitutes. he squirrels out offal a moan first squirrel out of child support. the guy is a wretched human being. >> he had the handgun for 11 days, he now faces 25 years in prison. it is a prosecution that is so is rare, so out there, so draconian -- >> this may be a jury nullification defense; that is, they're hoping that the jury will be sympathetic over his struggle with addiction. >> the judge overseeing hunter biden's two cases are trump appointees, and yet you don't hear president biden attacking them as a conflicted. >> the evidence against hunter, of course, is overwhelming. the case should have been brought fife years ago a. >> republicans saying the doj is corrupt. they're prosecuting the president's son right now. howard: joining us now to analyze the coverage, ben domenech, editor at large of the spectator and a fox news contributor, and in san diego, laura fink, founder of rebel communications. ben, is this the mirror image of the trump trial except that the press is largely thick to the defendant in this case -- sympathetic and say, come orange the guy's a are recovering addict, give him a break. [laughter] >> to a certain extent, what you're saying is true in terms of it's a mirror image in terms of the reaction, but i would actually argue hunter's crime in this case is far more clear cut. it's a document that you have to sign, you know, under penalty of, you know, perjury in terms of going down the list, everybody has to do this when they're buying a firearm, you know? and in his case hunter obviously lied on that form when he said that he was not, you know, addicted the any drugs, when he said that the he was able to purchase this weapon. and that's something that the i think, you know, the irony of this is actually that joe biden himself signed a law into effect that made the penalty for this type of crime higher than it was in the past historically. in trump's a case, you know, the documents involved in that were all, you know, business records that were never supposed to be public. it's a completely different standard. but i do think one thing is career here in terms of the coverage that this has received. the number one thing that i think we've learned over the a past week is that, essentially, people really didn't know the degree to which this had gone off the rails as much as it had. i think there were a lot of people who were learning these things about a hunter biden for the first time whether you were reading it on the pages of "the daily mail" or something that goes viral or not. and these are things that a lot of conservatives have known for a long time. they've read miranda devine's book, heavy been paying attention. but because this kind of took it into the public arena for the first time to that degree, i'm curious what the reaction is going to be from voters. howard: laura, hunter biden's defense strike me as almost absurdly narrow in the sense that, of course i was a crack addict, but not that week or that month. is that what this has come down to? >> i think he's relying on the burden of proof of prosecutors. one with thing that we have to highlight here is it'ses so so rare to prosecute a lead felony conviction of possession of a firearm. the charges that punt -- hunter is facing. hay don't prosecute these cases. where that was the lead charge, 35,000 case over the course of last year, and .02% of them were these types of cases where it involved, you know, drug use. usually that's the case when they are trying the catch a felon committing a different crime with the firearm. and if so they -- there are other crimes associated with it. again, they're throwing the book at him, and that is clear. and i think people understand that with the fact that we have a trump prosecutor leading this charge. and, again, you don't hear bind saying, joe biden, saying anything about this. and i think that's incredibly consistent with his view that the rule of law needs to proceed regardless of your feelings about the circumstances. howard: well, ben, president biden during his trip to normandy telling abc's david mover that he will not -- david muir that he will not pardon his son no matter what happens. it was a one-word answer a, yes. he's ruling it out. trump and his supporters, since you brought up the earlier case, say the stormy daniels would never have been brought were he not the leading presidential candidate. could the same be said about hunter biden? yes, probably undoubtedly bought the handgun illegally but never took it out of the box and had it for 111 days, so there is --11 crimes. there is no second crime where he shot up a bank. >> i completely concede to lauer a's -- laura's point that most of the time these claims are part of a broader criminal case, going after somebody who did something else and you include this as part of the charge. but the distinction i would make here is just kind of the blatant nature of his crime, meaning that, you know, if the president's son or in this case, you know, the vice president's son, you know, at the time was -- the former vice president away with this and then literally write a book where he talks about it, you know, have something as blatant as within 24 hours -- [laughter] seeking out crack and that kind of thing, you know, what kind of standard does that set for the american people of just sort of saying that he's being held the a completely different standard? howard: he can get crack in timbuktu do. >> father-in-law, apparently, one of those many skills he has along with his artistic work. but i do think what we actually see here is, you know, to the degree it's similar with trump, the prominence and the public nature of their crime in the sense that people are aware of it leads people to go after it. and in the case of the stormy daniels hush up money trial, i think that was simply a case of partisan targeting where al venn bragg saw it fitting his purposes to announce before he even had the job that he was going to go after him for as many things as he could. howard: laura, hunter biden, as you know, already pleaded guilty to gun charges and tax charges, tax evasion. there's going to be a second trial on that. but service it was in that sweetheart deal that the9 judge threw out because there was no jail time. doesn't that diminish his chances of beating the rap here? >> it certainly could impact it, and it also shows what a pickle he's in as a result of being the president's son. we sort of see it working in reverse here. the challenge really is with hunter biden, is there prosecutorial discretion and does it fit. i mean, so you're working on -- so we're throwing felony charges at him and talking about jail time on a crime that is not generally prosecuted. at the very least, the punishment should be proportional to the crime. that is the entire job of prosecutors and judges, and so we'll see as this case proceeds if whether his last name becomes such a debt detriment to him. certainly are, he should be with held accountable, but the punishment should be proportional to the crime can. no one was hurt in these incidents and, certainly, he needs to face the charges but let's be reasonable. and the inconsistency, of course, on the right with respect to this issue is wild. we talk about the entire justice system being rigged and joe biden is supposed to be the grand puppeteer. the fact of the matter is that's not resonating with voters because it just doesn't make a lot of sense. there was a jury of his peers that convicted donald trump on 34 charges was the teacher, the nurse, the respiratory therapist, the banker all looked at the evidence that was presented to them regardless the political way in which it got there. they believed uniformly that the these chimes -- crimes took place. it was an unequivocal verdict -- >> i have to disagree with you there because i think if, in fact, voters -- especially independent voters or -- believe that this was a situation that was completely aboveboard and not motivated by partisan interests, then i think you would have seen a dramatic shift in terms of the poll evidence after this conviction. you would have seen the kind of shift that a lot of people predicted based on prior polls about the hypothetical if the former president was shifted. it's been something within the margin of error, a blip really in terms of any kind of negativity associated with the former period of time. and that, to me, is an indictment of the idea that people would automatically believe this was aboveboard and not a partisan attack on the former president. howard: i want to talk about the laptop because images have been introduced at trial as evidence. we'll show one here. and, of course, at the teem, in fact, during the second debate bait against donald trump, joe baden said, oh, this is russian disinformation, the laptop wasn't real. many in the media said the laptop wasn't real, npr refused to cover the story. welsh it's the government's, you know with, key exhibit here. why on earth did hunter request just not plead guilty, expose himself to penalty -- i think this was a presidential attempt by the special counsel to sea this is going to get really ugly for you, maybe you ought to take the plea. any insight on that? >> you know, i'm not in the room with hunter and his lawyers. obviously, we're talking about the outside pressure being a factor in a way of most other criminal cases that it would not be. i think the he's got a series of difficult choice, baa if you co, bad if you don't. and because of his drug addiction, this is something that he's going to have to be accountable for. it is the difficult because there is not truly a path that would set him free. it would, it's clear that he did purchase the gun, it is clear that he has had, you know, drug problems. what the response of the jury is, is -- will determine his future because his father certainly isn't weighing in. democrats certainly aren't trying to impugn the justice system in his defense, so he stands alone right now. howard: more on that in a moment. when we come back, donald trump and his allies sending sharp signals on retribution in his second term. ♪ muck ♪ if.uto ♪ so you can get back to your monster to-do list. -really? -get a quote at progresivecommercial.com. higher shipping rates may be “the cost of doing business...” but at what cost? turn shipping to your advantage. with low cost ground shipping from the united states postal service. ♪ howard: some of donald trump's allies want republican us investigating democrats right now. >> -- every republican d.a. starting every information, they need to right now. howard: the subject came up, as it has before, when the former president sat town with sean hannity. >> people are claiming you want relately -- retribution. people are claiming you want what has happened to you done to democrats. would you to that ever? >> look, what's happened to me has never happened in this country before, and it has to stop because for finish. >> wait a minute. i want to hear that again. it has to stop. >> well, it does have to stop because we're not going to have a country. when this election is over based on what they've done, i would have every right to go after them. and it's easy because it's joe biden, and you see all the criminality. all of the money that's going into the family and him. all of this money from china, from russia, from ukraine. howard: trump was more explicit in his sit-down with dr. phil. >> well, revenge does take time, i will say that. >> it does. >> and sometimes revenge can be justified. let's be honest, sometimes it can. howard: ben, donald trump didn't say he would order such retribution, but at the same time he said it would be easy to do. sort of a mixed message? >> it is a mixed message, but i think one of the things we have to understand here is donald trump's personal if motivations regarding going after democrats in this way do not speak for necessarily the motivations of republicans across the country and especially, you know, republican prosecutors, or attorneys general, etc. i think that you're actually going to theme crack down in terms of their own interest. in other words, it's going to benefit them politically to go after various or democrats in ways that i do not think that we have seen before. much in the same way that the it benefited letitia james, alvin bragg, it's benefited the various people who have targeted donald trump, to say that they were going to do that when they were running for their office. i think we're folk so to see a similar thing happen within the republican party. howard: laura, if you believe that -- like trump does, then aren't they prolow lowering themselves by employ or toking saying they are going to employ the very same tactics? >> it's deeply dangerous to say that,s to say that you're going after your political enemies. it's deeply dangerous to democracy. look, when -- not to mention to your political career. i don't know that i agree with ben that the political benefits -- you have to have evidence. what we see in the court of law, you have to have -- >> they literally promised when they were running. >> this is all -- i'm sorry, i didn't hear that. the -- >> i said they promised when they were running, i'm going to get him. that's, like, a promise letitia james made to help her career, you know? it clearly benefited them. >> but even if that, even just sort of saying, okay, ben, sure, that's exactly what happened, which i don't, i would say this: the juries looked at that evidence, a grand jury looked at the ed -- evidence, a jury of trump's peers looked at the evidence. at every stage there are processes where the judicial system requires a level of evidence and that there are checks. republicans that want to go after political enemies better make sure heavy got some criminals on their hands. we already see the justice system working in that regard it. we see it with bob menendez, henry cuellar. democrats not saying a peep about that a when their colleagues are under judicial scrutiny if because it's important to trust the system and to move forward. so i think you're going to see limited benefit to people who are moving forward. we saw is it with all the a voter -- >> i think they're not saying anything about bob menendez because he's obviously guilty as hell, but that's my own opinion. [laughter] howard: even menendez gets a jury. let's concede -- let's agree for the sake of argument that you can't just completely fab ifly candidate a charge. you've got to have something there. but if, as a steven the miller we saw, former white house official, say, you know, let's right now have the assistant d.a.s, republicans go after democrats, a white house official, ben, used to tell me if trump's advisers pushed him to tone something down, just wait a cop old -- a couple days and he doweled dial it up, just like he did with dr. phil. >> i think the way host actually going to approach it is to put people in charge if he is reelected who he trusts to go after various people and to use the system to maximum advantage. in other words, to say, look, you have power within this role, i expect you to use it. if that includes targeting people who in the past might have gotten, you know, paths because of the authority they had or the position that they held within to opposing party, that doesn't get a pass anymore. to the degree that this is actually going to result in anything, i don't know. i think it's very much up in the air. but i do think it's going to play to people's advantages if you are someone who's going to go after various folks, you know, on the other side and use that to your political sort of benefit. that's going to be something that i think we sew far more frequently in america generally. howard: you'll just be caught in this endless cycle where you don't even have to wait until the next election. democrats go after republican, republicans go after democrats and people throw up their hands and say, well, they must all be crooks. >> well,s the premise of that question suggests that joe biden has the capacity and the ability to influence i all of these prosecutions on, in various, at various state levels. it's absurd on its face. but i think the danger is donald trump does what he says he's going to do, and there will not be guard rails in a next trump administration. all of the individuals for whether it be military leaders, folks in the justice department, he is going to plant yes men if across the board. so i do think it's dangerous that we have the potential weaponization of the justice transportation. it's, he's speaking it into truth even though there is zero evidence that it has existed thus far. howard: let's be politically correct and say yes if men or yes women. up next, the biden camp up happy with the wall street journal for saying he's losing focus behind the scenes. ♪ good soil, and you get good results. look at that! the broccoli was fantastic. that broccoli! i think some of them were six, seven pounds. these days everyone is staring at screens, and watching their spending. good vision is more important than ever, but so is saving. that's why america's best includes a free eye exam when you buy two pairs of glasses for just $79.95. book an exam online today. kayak. no way. why would i use kayak to compare hundreds of travel sites at once? kayak. i like to do things myself. i do my own searching. it isn't efficient. use kayak. i can't trust anything else to do the job right. aaaaaaaahhhh! kayak. search one and done. 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