we had a limited amount of time e". we had , i'llously just say it, jesse, we like to say it because it's written y all across your face to say you like. >> you loooue him!k. >> trump wins over new fans as biden heads back to the bunker. >> i think biden would do this intervie>>w. every >> i hope.bo absolutely not. everybody must see everybody. a my feet face. no one's above the law except looters, rioters and ballot stuffers. >> we are the people who are goin wg to save american democracy. joe biden and aoc are now a thing i you plus what al? >> you're very saucy. >> friday. s frid >> 80 four degrees in delaware. joe biden should be shirtlesayen on the beach, getting dominated by the sun. instead, he's locked in a dark basement e is mock debatingdark b trump impersonators. our cameras caughtast biden on his way to camp david. stiff as a board shuffling across the tarmadavid,c. th >> now, the biden campaign might call this a cheap fake, but it'smpaignl 100% real. >> all we did was point a camera at the president and hit record. >> last night, we were toldrds. biden will have a physical performance surprise for us at the cnn presidential debate . doesn't look like he's ready for whatever they're planning nooe lik iw because the campaige is focused on training biden to9 stand for 90 minutes. >> part one is going to be pouring throug0 h all of this source material, trying to refine and hone in on his talkin, tryingg points. part two of that film, of that debate prep, it's going to be pt actually putting that into action with these mock debates. this is gointhat ig to include 0 minute formal debate where the president is standing up on his feet the entire time trying to mirror what he's going to have to d e o in realt is time next week. >> the bar couldn't be anyg uple lower for joe as long as he doesn't just get up and wander of f before it's over.r >> people will call it a win for every american, whetherr of they voted for him or not. well, and the ones that didn't ovs but rany votel i on them, that's your president. thank you. thant.k you. n >> thank you, paul.vote f appreciate that. thank you. thank you. thanors buk you. don't go anywhere. it's a very exciting day around here. niwe'll have reaction and analysis to everything we just heard day. e >> biden always performs better than expected on big nights. ju den alwait could be that he's wl rested, study hard, or maybeed it's whatever is in that orange drink. that orang? hat orange drink trump knows he won't be goings up against your typicahel joe biden. >> i'm not underestimating emily. it is what it is.t is we'll see what happens. i happen to think he's incompetent for a lot of reasons. i think he's incompetent because hecompetent for t of hat policies. becaus policyeign-p and internal policy. i mean, who would not wantol to have a wall? who wants to have millions of people pouring in? who wants to have high taxes and cognitive decline? do you believe he's in cognitive decline? mr. president, i shouldn't be the one to say that, but i don't think he's doing particularly well. >> that wa wall?s trump on a pox with a few tech billionaires who just hosted a fundraiseres for him in silicon valley. so what do a bunch of rich guys talksay thw about how nice thes are? >> hello, mr o. president.n sili >> every time i love that house, he has to love david'ey. as house on a houseese that made the biggest impression, huh? >> thank you, sir.. i heard you have a pretty nice house, too. th, i have a dealer in,pretty and he says no. >> after they go t that out: after of the way, the billionaires dove into some serious polic thm talk. >> trump's taking the lesse seri is more approach, less taxes and regulation means more money. axes and reguli gave the biggesn in the history of our country and a lo t to business. and the revenues were were better than ever. even wer with the lower rate, ws had a record record revenues, which tells you a little bitbutl about that. but also the regularso ations. in four years i cut more regulations that anybody by for by far. >> not even close. and trump says he'll kill inflation and the deficit by drilling more and spendinnotg less. >> we have more liquid gold under our feet. i use the term we have we have more oil, we have more wells, we have more everything tha morn anybody else. if they ever won the election, there's no more oil coming out.n . no more oil. we have tremendous growth potentiag ou l and we have tremendous numbers of dollars and we that can be saved through efficiency. >> trump's an old school guy, but he's open to new ideas. nuclear energy powered, artificial intelligence is one.. >> they need electricity eve at levels that nobody's ever experienced before to have to be successful to be a leader t in a.i.. and we're going to have to be able to do that. and ningand a windmill turning s blade, knocking out the birds and everything wit else is not going to be able to make us competitive. be ato, mr.nuclear president? i'm okay with nuclear, but you have to do it in a way makuclear that makes sense. >> a.i. isn't the only thing trump's open tuto. se: ai the former president was asked if he would release the jfk thinn files.k assass >> i released a lot, as you know, but when it came to theini whole thing, i was hit by some people that worked for meople that are great people that you would respect. and they asked me not to dou woy . and i'm saying, why? tell me why. and they said, sir, i think itte needlld theys a lot more time, s time i'm just going to do it. >> rfk says the ci ta killed his his uncle. >> do you believe that? well, this wasn't cia kiathin that asked me, but i thinkwa i was probably behind it. but they didn't. they would have preferred that i not release the rest of it. but people more than anything else, they want the jfk files. >> we're going to release that immediately. >> low taxes, less red tape. and a president who is open woud to ideas. >> rich guys like that. h jakeav , what are your whatth are your big takeaways? >> well, i'm undecided. d >> as you know, we had a limited amount of time with him and i'll just say it just likede him. you didn't you were to saycided >> just say it because it's written all across your face to say it. bee it your confusion. >> i have some crushed your questions. no, he crushed your questionu a >> i make sure you ask great questions. and he just deale asked great wi head on. >> just admit it. you like him. you like himke.im. you look at him. >>ok back on the fact. >> i will say that i told you you'd like. >> trump has a way of charming >> jy ofthe wealthy because he s from that world he knows all they want is a prosperous country and common senseosperous policies. >> the former president rake cod in $170 million last month, completely shredding biden's cash advantage. some of that money came from billionaires like 50 million from timothy mellon, the heir to the mellon family bankingn, fortune. that's one of the biggest donations in political the hist. but a lot of cash came from small donations fueled by trump's conviction and may trump's up in ever biggey swingb and in deep blue minnesota, he edges out biden when rfk jrhe is on the ballot, a republicannt hasn't won minnesota since nixon compareda to 2020. >> trump's up 19 points with blacks and eight with hispanics. >> the new york times hasdown biden down five points with women compare f wd to four years ago. >> what this all means is thatwi biden has zero room for error from now until november. fromhe can't afford to lose one more voter. >> the biden campaig n needst th to set the narrative early that biden is competent and capable capable to lead going forward and he absolutely cannot have a senior moment at this debate hav. that's what i heard from. i was in wisconsin and michigan two weeks ago for a lot of focus groups. and what i heard from voters, democrat s who support biden is just that they are going to bes watching and they want to make i sure that he's up to the task. they might still be planning wan to vote for him, but ifak they but they still they're uncomfortable surete abe age. and it really is an albatross that is hanging around this an l candidate and campaign. >> jason calacanis is a businessmathatrounn, entreprener and host of the all in podcast, where donald trump juste al appeared. >> can i call you jake? wher me jake and not can call me. >> and i'm glad to be here. just s, o beo you're not a trum you didn't vote for him in 2016n . you didn't vote for him in 2020, did 201 did you? >> no, definitely not. all right. not.eat do you moderat democrat, where would you kind of protect yourseld yof? l> i would say socially libera and fiscally conservative, probably voted 25% democ republican and 75% democratic in my life growing myn, new york and brookly right next to donny from queens, and then spending a lot of mt to y adult life here you in california. >> and you're open now to votin'r g for donald trump. why is that? yeah, i'm not sure he's won me over just yet. >> i do think we had a very productive 50 minute dialok gt an on the all in podcast, and you had some great clips there. >> we made u p a lot of headway i in talking about important issues to the business community likening abou h1-b vif and this concept of recruiting great talent to the countrybut s while closing the border. but, you know, as a moderate moo i do have some blockers in withu trump and i do have some blockersmp with biden, obviousl. what are your blockers with trump first? first,blockersh trump, what ares with trump? >> yeah, with trump. you know, i think his rhetoric the first time around as president caused a lot of chaost time . and i think it was unnecessary, unpresidentialin. flames and i just think it inflames both sides. and we need to calm all that rhetoric down. number w two, you want to calmy. trump? okay. well, i don't know about what dw i don't think anybody's coming trump down. but you do seem to see he's calmingt yosee the rhetorg and maybe leaning into policy a little bit more. and what i'loliclittlel call tr0 his second time about here, because i think he really wants to win timk and to win if he res people of how chaoticc that that first term was, i thinkm wa he loses. but if he seems more presidentias,k hel and he s more reasonable, i think that's going to get him a lot more moderates. ha and that's what's going to decide the election. women and moderates, there's there's a large number of people who, you know, are just disenfranchized owith the democratic party right now. >> right. so, j. cal, is trump curious? will >> we'll characterize it that way by adding blockeraract >> what are your biden blockers? i mean, obviously, he isn co in cognitive decline. it doesn't take a genius to see that we all want him to retire s no r ,have a great time with hisve grandkids and wish him the best. >> but he really great you can e the difference in the four years he's been in office. he's gotten downhills. l find and i think we'll find out next week exactly how farweek you kn, his cognitive abilities have fallen. and, you know, and i say that with great reservatioi sae you know, like it's an old person. >> all of our parents, all of us, mostly in all likelihood,d o go through the same decline. >> but this is a really thrortan t office. so i don't think i think that's probably why biden is so unpopular right nosw. age it's just the age thing. the second piece for me, which is reallg.cey bad, is that he is not pro capitalism, he is not pro entrepreneurship. and i think capitalism and entrepreneurship along- it with personal freedoms, are the most important things for me here in america. and i think to a lot of americansth . and to watch the democratic party push people ou t of the party, people, you know, who would otherwise be allies bu because they don't fit, you know, every single test the democratse everys have put out there for you in terms of your virtue signaling or, you know, unimportant issues, frankly, i really have concerns about the debt and his support o of capitalisrtm and a vibrant free market. >> go back to what you just said, jake , when you said that you feel like the democratic party is closednd minded or judgmental or pushing people out of the party. >> what do you meajudgemhingn bm >> yeah, i mean, if you were you to look at some incrediblys over high profile democrats over the years, elon musk, my frien d chamath palihapitiya from the all in podcast, and even joe roga frienn, you know, these are democrats or have been lifelong democratsr and supported, you know, hillary clinton, barack obama, a etc.. >> and then the democratic party is like, oh, well, you don'. democyt believe in unionsere or here or you don't have this exact, you know, die or, you know, pick the litmus testtt that they put you through. >> theeseyn you can't be parte t of the party. >> and if you think about it, they could probabl o y have peoplee peop like elon, joe rogan, chamath on their side still. >> and then my personal and eience with th republican party is when i say, you know what, i agree lith trump on the border. >> like 80% of americans, the entire republican party is likf amere, oh yeah, you agr% with us on 14% of our issues. >> please comef in the party.hee >> we'd love to have you in here. jake. i'll wait a second. that's a big to believe in. a meritocracy. ieve i and the democrats hate me, right? all right. so i understann autoy and the i. >> do other people in your neck of the woods, silicon valley, feel this way? >> because you think most americans, you hear silicon valleyway?u thin and you look ae donations, it's like 99% from all of these big tech companies go to democrats. is theree big tech a change hap? >> yeah, i think it's a it's a slow and steady change. the most noticeable change is that people were very quiett about their support of trump overr supp the last eight years. >> if you were to be very pro-trump, it could cost you business, it could cost you an investor, it could cost you employees, etc.. >> and now, you know, since coh did their bigmptor fundraiser for trump, i wasn't part of that. i don't donate to politiciansisi at this point. >> you know, i think thingnts, have changed. in sayi people are very public and saying this democratic party doesn't match i my ideals. i'm not into censorship. i'm into freedom of speech'm. i believe in a meritocracy, not die. i believe in free markets, notd this crony capitalism, kind of from the government and this regulatory capture. >> so they're starting to looket at the issues and saying, you know what, it feels like trump's platformaro lookt matchm my platform more, and do i want to havore the reputation hittiot of coming out and supporting trump? >> and now people are saying, supp what? can you can't cancel me any more.ce cancel culture is over. screan cancew it. be pu >> i'm going out and i'm justbl going be public about my support of trump. and so that's what you're seeing happening right now. >> so the policy is winning over the socia support l shaming. >> i think we've come so far.i we've come a long way as a country over the last couple of years. if that's the caseway . e. all right, jake, our thanks so much for joining jesse watters, primetimright,e everybody in tht all in podcast. >> great. one senior fellow at the hoover institute, great.or fello victo, joins me now. all right. vh, you heard at the l ri top theden ca biden campaign is practicing stemmp boarding up for 90 minuts at a time. what does that tell you aboute f the state of affairs? well, the that on the date of the the the debate date itself tells you they're very unsuref tell. k i think the people in the shadows were whispering this is a stresn ss test for joe biden or. correct. we've never had a debate wherett that neither debate team has been nominated by their respective parties. so i think they want to have joe go out and do his best and they wish him well. but if he doesn't and he implodes and there's a possibilitwish himy might, thn they still have time to self-correct at the convention and get another y he migd ge person's name on the ballot. so the people who say thisrson's is probably the most importantdi debate in modern memory i think are correct. we've never quit memore seen ang like this, jesse. and, you know, in an ironic way, n trump agreed to on favorable conditions. but i think they actually may favor him. the idea you have to stand up thd yothe ideau you silence thec when the other person's talking and you have alkin hostile group of people who have a record of not likinge you. i all that, in a weird way, i think will play to trump's wiladvantage. jesse so he's going to be guzzling his orange gatorade orliquid whatever that liquid is that he keeps chugging and he's going to roll the dice. and if he bombs, it's over. and if he does well, then we have a race on our hands. where does the democratic party stand? we talkece o d about some things you wrote earlier in the week on jesse watters, primetimoue, e the five stages of grief. i've never, ever seen the democraticti party behaven my like this in my entire career covering politics.s. they're off message. they're undisciplined, they're scattered, they're angry. d.what is going on? >> vh, i think they haves of memories of 1972. mcgovern in 1980. jimmy carter i mean, it's eerie, jesse, how thisto sa is starting to shape up. like 1980, you had an incumbenpt president that was incompetent. you had stagflation, inflation, russians was, yo in afghanistan had invaded, you had hostages. >> the whole sense of the whole country was falling apart. and more importantly, the messag fallie then and now o you can't do this, you can't do this, don't do that. and then demonization of ronald reagan. he's never had federal office. he's an outsider. he's dangerous. he'll cause a war. amy says idangeroue will af youp unless if reagan's elected all of this crazy stuff. and then the polls were justandh incoherent because everybody had this feeling that reagan is getting these t renew constituencies and he'sm all this momentum. and then ten days before the election and quote 1980, it says that carter is six ahead,,l almost like the fox poll foxho that sailed that, in fact,t a biden was to a point and john anderson, yet reagan said bring on anderson, i don't careate about third party. i'll debate him. and carter said, no, no, we don't want him in the debatem. sai. and they tried to demonize him. it was the same paranoiam an and the fact that they have no record to run on and thn reallyhing they ca do is hector the electorate and say, basically tnl, you're stupid if you vote for ronald reagan and that doesn't work. and they're doine u forg the se thing again. >> never during the election drives, never hector the electorate. rule numbeelector one in politi, they must not hector the electorate. muc >> thank you so much for all of your wisdom and expertise. youhave a great weekend. wanda. the stuffer and meatball. me sav breaking news nexte. experian, help me save over 1400 dollars a year on car insurance, though. prices keep going up. experian is here to help exper experian is here to help exper you saveia credit cards or car insurance. start saving now. >> free ad experience .com or get the app now. i have a new show up. it is called quiz with votes and it's going to win lots of cash and they call and make bingo boards because big on the big guys bingo. oh the quiz with on these tuesdays on fox and watch anytime on hulu it's your life right now you just remember the stuff stop right now i did take your back. yeah. >> what's it going to take? 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