>> little did you know the mystery that was about to unfold. >> i went into the living room and i saw blood all over the place. i went into the bathroom, more blood. the whole time we were thinking it was a car wreck. and now, what happened. >> i told my brother, this is how people get away from murder. >> the rumor mill is in overdrive. >> there was gossip there was an affair. >> sex, lies in a christian by club. >> who would've thought. >> exactly. >> this was tearing us apart. >> you really can't make this. up >> there is no other way to describe a human being like that. say in spawn. >> hello and welcome to dateline. when this couple, met they swept off their feet. then jamie said, judy suffered two accidents in the same nights. and she was gone. detectives believed, the grieving husband. but her family launch their own investigation. their question, was this a case of bad luck? or the handiwork of a clever killer? here is andrea cannon, with, the black box. >> station, a standby for alert. >> we have a bad wreck on the old richburg road. we have one, dead they're calling for coroner. >> the slow moving water, chilled by the december, air trickled over her lifeless body. >> she was one of my biggest supporters and she is not here anymore. >> how this wife, mother and grandmother ended up in this, creek would consume her family for years. >> i'm not going to give up until i find what really happens. >> a >> do you get a lot of car crashes, as the coroner? >> we. do >> the coroner for chester county south carolina, had been called here, to the site of a fatal traffic accident. it was right before midnight on december 14, 2016. a husband and wife were in their jeep, when it ran off their, road ending up down by this creek. >> and when it got to the bottom, the nose of the jeep was right here. >> he was told the 53 year old woman had been ejected. >> and i saw her laying in the, cricket i knew she. was >> my friend. >> terry had no duty most of his life. >> that must have been such a shock to the system, to see that. >> it was. >> a longtime friend, laying in the creek. >> the corner notice some unusual markings on judy's face. deep dark, blacken circles around her eyes. >> i am seeing a lot of bulging eyes lot of people call raccoon eyes. >> how do you get those raccoon eyes? is there one way. >> probably a brain injury. >> driving the jeep was judy's husband, jamie. he suffered minor injuries. >> he told first responders they were traveling down this, road when he swerved to avoid hitting a. truck his out of control jeep went down the side of an embankment and crashed into the creek. he said he was knocked, out and when he came to, duties limp body was in the creek a few feet away. he called 9-1-1 >>. do you want to try cpr? >> you have already tried? >> oh god. oh god. >> jamie had already been taking away in the ambulance, when detective chris reynolds with the chester county sheriff 's, office arrived on the scene. >> i actually took my flashlight, in looked, and in saw a cloth with blood on it. and blood on the seat. >> the detective saw the jeep's door open, where judy had apparently been ejected. >> what is your first instinct of this scene? >> this accident. it's until proven something else, it is an accident. >> that same night, judy's two sons, josh and chris, each got late night phone calls. they were only told their mom had been in a car crash and they needed to get to the hospital right away. >> i was the first one there, and i run into the emergency side, and i was like where is julia, and they said we don't have a duty. >> and i said is jaime baldwin here? >> josh found his stepdad jamie at a hospital room. >> i said where is my mom? he said, she did not make. and i was like, what do you mean she did not make it? and he said, she's dead. >> chris arrive shortly after, and got the terrible news. he asked his stepdad what happened. >> all i said was, i wish it would've been me. >> it felt like a dream, i can't believe we're going through this again. >> because your dad died, tragically. >> their dad, judy's first husband, died in a motorcycle accident 12 years earlier. it just seemed unbelievable to now lose their mom, also in a crash. >> so here you are, having to say goodbye to your other parent. your mom. that is really a hard thing to do. lose both of your parents at such a young age. >> our family, we didn't have any problems, we were all happy. and you know, our parents were gone. >> around 6:30 that morning, judy's 23-year-old niece, jessie, was sound asleep on her phone rang. her dad gave her the tragic news that her aunt known as little judy, because she was just four foot 11, had been killed. >> and he said, little judy is dead. and i said, what are you talking about? and he said little duty is dead. i just started screaming, and crying. i woke up everybody in the house. >> when judy's nephew heard the news, he realized his aunts beloved yorkie was all alone. early in the morning, he went over to her house. >> the whole time i'm thinking, i'm just going to the house to get the dog. rodney, was not prepared for what he saw, once he walked inside the house. >> it was a shock. i could not believe. it i went into the living room, and i saw blood all over the place. blood on the floor, blood into the bathroom. there's more blood. the whole time, we are thinking it is a car wreck. and now, what happened? >> a family, horrified, mystified, and looking for answers. investigators are about to ask questions, of the one person, who knows just what happened that evening. coming up. >> she was there at the fireplace on the floor. >> what jaime says happened to duty. >> i got her up. i got her into the bathroom. and i cleaned her up. and it was bleeding that. >> and then the clue, that baffled the coroner. >> so this was going to be the key area in the autopsy? >> yes. >> when dateline continues. oh sure. what's up? get fast, powerful cough relief with robitussin, and find your voice. ♪robitussin♪ i have moderate to severe crohn's disease. now, there's skyrizi. ♪ things are looking up, i've got symptom relief. ♪ ♪ control of my crohn's means everything to me. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ feel significant symptom relief at 4 weeks with skyrizi, including less abdominal pain and fewer bowel movements. skyrizi is the first il-23 inhibitor that can deliver remission and visibly improve damage of the intestinal lining. and the majority of people experienced long-lasting remission at one year. serious allergic reactions and an increased risk of infections or a lower ability to fight them may occur. tell your doctor if you have an infection or symptoms, had a vaccine or plan to. liver problems may occur in crohn's disease. ♪ now's the time to ask your gastroenterologist how you can take control of your crohn's with skyrizi. ♪ ♪ control is everything to me. ♪ ♪ learn how abbvie could help you save. teeth sensitivity is so common. it immediately feels like somebody's poking directly on the nerve. i recommend sensodyne. sensodyne toothpaste goes inside the tooth and calms the nerve down. and my patients say you know doc, it really works. my a1c was up here; now, it's down with rybelsus®. his a1c? 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did she believe in true love? >> she did believe in true love just because she had experienced it. todd was her one true love. todd was her first husband, who died in the motorcycle crash. >> i think after she passed, she was longing for that love. and she wanted to be loved like that again. >> was judy lonely? >> she was lonely. she wanted someone for sure. >> so judy's family was happy when she started dating jamie baldwin, a former police officer and 9-1-1 operator. the couple had a whirlwind romance, and after just eight months, they married in 2012. >> how did you feel, that your mom was with a former police officer? >> it was somebody that would protect her and help her if she was at need. someone who had her back. >> did they seem happy? >> yes, extremely happy. >> and when she's, happy i'm extremely happy. >> detective chris reynolds, who knew her personally, was looking into her death as part of a routine investigation. >> i knew miss judy for a very long time, since i was a child. >> did you like her? >> oh yes, everybody loved her. >> the detective had never met judy's husband. but wanted more details, on what happened that night. so about a week after her, death he asked jaime to come down to the sheriff's office. >> why do you bring him in, even though you believe this is an accident? >> we are crossing the tees and dotting our eyes. i wanted to make sure i had everything covered. >> she was just one of those people, as soon as you met, her you are a friend of her. you loved her. she had a smile on, she just loved life. >> jamie said he had mostly recovered from his minor injuries, emotionally, though he said he had a lot of healing to do. >> i. s. got 1 million times, why did you take me, and why jeff to take a woman like. that is there anything i have done to save her? i didn't. oh, god. >> jamie said the night judy, died he and his wife were decorating their christmas tree. he then briefly stepped outside, to put some tools away in his shed. >> when i came back in, she was on the floored front of the fireplace. i don't know if she decided to fix something on the tree. i do not know. i was in the shop. and, i didn't even ask her what she was doing. >> he said she is assumed he fell off a ladder, and hit her head on the mantle. on the floor were to stalking -- one of them was broken. >> i got a rug. and i cleaned her up. and it was bleeding that. >> jamie told the detective, he grabbed a washcloth from the bathroom, to put pressure on the wound. but the bleeding did not stop. he thought judy needed stitches. >> i was like, i got to take you to the hospital. and she looked at me and said i am not going to chester. she hated gesture hospital. >> although chester hospital was a few minutes from their house. he said the couple got into their jeep, and started driving to a bigger hospital, 30 minutes away. >> i asked, or i said how are you feeling? she said my head is hurting. i said it's going to be okay. we're going to get you stitches. and she looked up at me and said i love you and i said i love you too. and, i looked up, and i am pretty sure was a truck. it was like three quarters of the way in our lane. and, i mean, if i won temps were of to the right to miss, it we would've hit head on. >> that's when he said, they went flying down the embankment. ending up in the creek. jamie said the impact of the crash, knocked him out. >> we hit something and there was a big, gigantic, just like a stop. so i reached over four judy, and she is not there. and i finally found her and she was laying in the creek. >> after about an hour, he was finished. jamie's story seemed to match with the detectives had seen for themselves. like that bloody washcloth in the jeep. when he went to the house, the night of the accident. >> i see blood around the mantle, and on the floor. and i did see the latter leaned up, toward the christmas tree at the time. >> does the blood look consistent, with a possible fall? from a ladder? >> yes. yes. as of right now, it's an accident. >> well detective reynolds was continues investigation, the coroner was still trying to figure out what caused judy's death. he wanted to know more, about the large wound on her forehead. >> there was no damage to her legs, to her arms, all of it was concentrated around her head. >> so this was going to be the key area, in the autopsy. >> he concluded judy died from a skull fracture, caused by some sort of blunt force trauma to her head. and those raccoon, eyes were a result of large amount of blood accumulated in her skull. but the coroner struggled to figure out, what caused that fracture. >> i needed to know, what do you think she fell against? what was told by mr. baldwin, that she struck her head on the mantle. she might have bald on the stocking holder. but all of this stuff has to be added up. >> he had to determine if the fatal injury had been on that fall on her, house or during the car accidents. even though judy had two autopsies, before she was buried. the coroner could not reach a conclusion. so her death certificate read, pending investigation. and police, are not the only ones investigating. judy's family and friends, have questions too. and what they discover, will cast doubt on jaime's story. coming up. >> i am surprised i did, it because i was in shut shock. but i knew in my, heart something also had happened. >> jesse become suspicious about her aunts death. and takes matters into her own hands. >> you decided to record the call. >> i did recorder. >> and then, was someone in this family harboring a secrets? an eye-popping story. sex lies in a christian bike club. exactly. >> when dateline continues. 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(♪♪) (♪♪) the new festive family meal. starting at $24. now celebrating at el pollo loco. it appeared judy orr baldwin had been involved in two it appeared judy or baldwin had accidents on the same night. been into accidents in the same night. most people, including detective reynolds seem to agree. sadly, it looked like judy was the victim of bad luck. one person, however, wasn't buying it. judy's niece. she thought about what happened, it seemed suspicious. >> i had a very weird feeling in my stomach. >> although jamie had an explanation on why he took his wife to that faraway hospital, it didn't make sense to jesse. >> i'm like, why would you not go to chester hospital, it's so close to the house, if you just bumped your head. >> and why did jaime take a dark road to the hospital, when he could've taken a much faster, nearby highway? >> do you think that was odd? >> that was super odd to me. >> so, jessie decided to take a bold step. she put her amateur detective hat on and called jaime. >> you decided to record the call that you had with him. >> i did report it. >> what in your gut was telling you to record this call? >> i'm not sure what's told me to do it. i'm surprised i did it because i was in such shock, but i knew in my heart that something else happened. i wanted to hear what he had to say. >> she asks jamie how he got knocked out when the jeep crashed. >> what did you hit your head on? >> probably the rule bar, most likely, or the door, i don't know. >> jesse was most concerned about her and's final moments. >> i just don't want her to suffer. >> she didn't. she didn't suffer, jessie. she didn't. you know how much me and her loved each other. >> yes, sir. >> i mean, we had an awesome life together. >> yes, sir. >> how would you describe his demeanor? >> i would simply say he had zero remorse. he was talking just how we're talking, no emotion really. >> she's in heaven. we both know shoes and have been. >> yeah. >> so, that's the good news. >> one thing that struck me was when he said, that's the good news. >> yeah. >> which seemed a little -- like the language was a bit odd. >> it didn't make any sense to me either. it was just an eerie feeling, like, why would you say that in this phone call. >> jesse couldn't get the phone call out of her head. >> i sat there and i really played that recording so many times. >> are you expressing your concerns to judy's sons, your cousins? >> i let them listen to the phone call, and i told them, this isn't sitting right with me. >> after judy's sons started to think about it, they too had serious doubts. >> we're sitting there trying to figure out what's really happened to our mom. >> nobody would tell us anything. >> soon, one of judy's friends would tell the brothers more than they ever wanted to know. -- and show the most personal secrets with each other. you said you were like sisters. >> we were. i miss her a lot. a whole lot. >> k, and her husband randall, consider themselves judy and jamie's best friends. the four belonged to a biker group called, the carolina thunder christian motorcycle club. helping hands in harley's. they spent nearly every weekend with a couple, and can you something about judy and jamie that almost no one else did. >> talking with judy, i knew their marriage wasn't when they made it seem like. >> jamie told others, including detective reynolds in that interview, he had a strong, happy marriage. >> is there anything that i need to know about that may come in the future? >> i mean, like what? >> i mean, just anything that i need to know? >> no. >> okay. >> nothing. >> we had a great life. we did. we never gotten arguments. >> everybody has disagreements. >> please go talk to some of my friends. you will find out that we were perfect. i mean, we were just perfect. >> nobody's perfect, jamie. everybody's issues. >> well, it's about as perfect as you could get. we had a great relationship. >> case says, a few months before her death, judy confided in her that her marriage was on the rocks. she thought something was going on with jamie and another woman. a single mom named, teri king, who also happen to be the bike clubs treasurer. she started having her suspicions. what is you thinking? >> she was thinking, jaime and terry were having an affair. >> the club treasurer and jamie. >> if one want to smoke, they get the other one and say, come on, let's go smoke. julie didn't like that. little things like that judy had started picking up on. >> we saw a lot of touchy-feely, stuff that didn't quite look right. >> and judy would ask me about it, and i'd say, maybe, maybe not,