released by hamas, after a last minute agreement to extend the truce by one day with the clock running out to renew the deal. could this latest attack, could it complicate future deals down the line? in a moment, i'm going to speak to former secretary of defense, leon panetta. and moments from now, secretary blinken expected to speak after a whirlwind day of diplomacy in israel and the west bank, as idf tanks wait near the israeli-gaza border. i want to begin on the ground, with breaking news with nbc's david noriega. good to talk to you. we have new information about the man whose story we shared with folks ten minutes or so ago. what more can you tell us? >>. >> hi, yeah, so liat stzilli was the u.s. citizen released with the agreement we have been all been following for the last week or so. when we saw liat released yesterday, we were all under the impression that her husband aviv was being held captive. however, we heard earlier today that there was information that he had been killed on october 7th and we just received confirmation of that fact from the family who received that information from the israeli authorities. so this is a family that was in kibbutz nir oz in the south of israel. it was believed that, again, it was believed that liat and aviv had been kidnapped and held separately. the family was informed today that aviv was, in fact, murdered. this is the way that the information has worked throughout this conflict. we know everyone operates under one impression about the whereabouts of individual people and suddenly it changes at the hardest and most vulnerable moment. >> very devtang for that family. let's talk about two of the other hostages that were released. the names being released today as well. lk to me more about what we know of them. >> yeah, so there have been two hostages released so far today, 40-year-old amit susanna and mia schem. she was kidnapped at the nova music festival. we actually -- nbc news spoke with her mother karen schem in advance of her release, before we knew she was going to be released. we never know who is going to be released until the moment they are released. this is what karen schem had to say looking forward to the eventual reunion of her daughter. >> i don't think i will speak, i will just hold her and hug her. i won't ask questions, that's for sure. and i just want to hold her. >> reporter: these are two hostages out of an expected ten that we are waiting to see released tonight. as you pointed out, the cease fire has been extended day by day. we are aware that there are diplomatic efforts to extend the cease fire for an additional two days, allowing for the release of an additional 20 hostages. we do not have confirmation that that extension has actually taken place. that is the main thing we're going to be paying attention to here on the ground in the hours to come. >> and there we were sharing the video after we played that sound, david, of the family finally embracing once again, a mother and daughter reunion. david noriega for us, thank you so much. i appreciate it. i want to bring in allie raffa from the white house. secretary blinken, allie, is expected to speak in a couple of minutes. israel, west bank today, he is said the pause in fighting has produced some results. we also just heard from john kirby at the white house press briefing as well. what is the white house's plan here to possibly get an extension on the cease fire, and a release of more hostages? >> yeah, yasmin, admiral john kirby joining the ongoing white house press briefing saying at this point it's still unclear whether more hostages will be released by hamas after the two israelis that we saw released earlier today, saying that there is still hope that one american woman who is among the eight americans being held inside gaza will be released today. she, like the two other americans that we have seen released since sunday, meeting those terms of release under this cease fire deal. here's kirby talking about the difficulty of achieving the extension of the cease fire. >> i know one of the first questions i'm going to get is what are the chances of an extension, i can't tell you that right now. we're working on it literally by the hour to see if we can get the seventh day turned into an eighth and ninth and tenth and beyond. >> reporter: white house officials, including kirby, saying their challenge is not knowing the exact location and conditions of all of these hostages, also saying they are unable to confirm whether hamas is holding all of them, saying it's possible other terrorist groups within gaza are holding these hostages. kirby saying on the briefing that the onus is on hamas to identify the hostages to get them to safety during the cease fire deal. it's complicating the efforts to extend the cease fire. administration officials are hoping by extending this, this not only allows for the release of more americans but simply more categories of hostages to be released. more men, more men and women in the military. more potential humanitarian aid to be allowed to flow into gaza. so kirby, other administration officials stressing to us at this point that those efforts are still ongoing, those efforts are still tirelessly being tried on the ground for us. >> i want to bring in former secretary of defense and ex-cia director, leon panetta, thank you for joining us, sir. appreciate it. i want to talk about the multiple things going on. you have this shooting at a bus stop in jerusalem, all of that happening while ongoing negotiations are happening, being shepherded by qatar for an extension of the cease fire, and an exchange of hostages. what is the likelihood we'll see an extension, seeing how things are flaring up overseas. >> there's no question, the closer we get to the deadline and the more incidents that take place with hamas that it gets much toucher to try to extend the deadline. obviously i'm sure there's a lot of efforts to try to provide that extension, to get additional hostages. but the problem is that with hamas conducting these raids and attacks, it's going to make it much more difficult on israel to try to agree to any further extension. so i think it's going to be difficult. >> so john kirby in this press briefing just said, as you mentioned, that prime minister benjamin netanyahu, will, in fact, resume this war, and the u.s. will, in fact, support it. there is no question about that. and the secretary of state, tony blinken, has reiterated that as well. he also said the united states will not support a move to the south where they believe leaders of hamas are hiding out, unless israel can account for civilian life. can you talk about what you think that may mean and how it is that the united states can feel sure that israel will avoid yet another mass casualty in southern gaza. >> obviously if the war continues now, there's a lot of questions about how it will be conducted, and, you know, the issue is going to be whether israel goes back to basically bombing southern gaza, and, you know, costing a lot of additional palestinian lives or whether it will be a more targeted approach. i think the united states is urging israel to take a more targeted approach. i happen to agree with that. i think a more targeted approach where you identify hamas targets and then go after those targets, similar to the kind of counter terrorism efforts that the united states conducted against al qaeda. i think that makes a lot of sense here. it can limit the amount of civilian casualties that take place. in addition to that, i think they do have to continue to provide humanitarian aid to those that have been impacted. so if israel can agree to a more targeted approach, going after hamas, going after their leadership as they should, and at the same time, being able to provide humanitarian aid. i think that's probably the best course for israel to take. we'll have to see. they're the ones who will make the ultimate decision here. >> what would a more targeted approach look like? i know you gave some examples, if you could talk more about that, and do you trust prime minister benjamin netanyahu to take that targeted approach? he's in the mindset to take that targeted approach. >> well, i think he's got to give it consideration. i think he is. i think the more targeted approach is very similar to what we did going after al qaeda, which is to basically use intelligence, use the best sources possible to identify where hamas's leadership is located. and then using special forces techniques, be able to go after those particular targets. it worked pretty effectively for us in undermining al qaeda's leadership. i think that israel can hopefully use some of the same tactics. now, it's not going to be as easy. there are a lot of tunnels in southern gaza that have to be dealt with. there's a lot of places where hamas can hide and where the hostages can be placed. it's going to be a lot more difficult. i think it does depend on a process of getting good intelligence now. getting the kind of intelligence you absolutely need in order to identify targets rather than just bombing the hell out of the place. >> leon panetta, thank you for now. i'm going to ask you to stay with us, if you will, we have more for you coming up. one of the most influential and controversial figures in the history of american policy dies at 100 years of age. a look back at henry kissinger's life and legacy in just 60 seconds. in just 60 seconds. 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[ applause ]. >> kissinger's influence and charm made him an unlikely celebrity. he met the love of his life, marrying his wife nancy, a top aide to then vice president nelson rockefeller. after leaving government, kissinger traveled the world, advising heads of state and counseling u.s. presidents of both parties. he celebrated his 100th birthday in may before returning to china, the scene of his greatest diplomatic triumph where he received a red carpet welcome from president xi jinping. and surely his greatest achievement was the opening to china, which transformed the global landscape, since the u.s. and china, not just russia are now the world's two great economic and technological superpowers, the fact that he took the long trip to china in july at the age of 100 is remarkable. in his meeting with president xi, he laid the ground work for president biden's summit that restored communications between the u.s. and china which had been in a dangerous freeze for the better part of a year. he was writing and speaking about artificial intelligence. yasmin. >> how do we view his legacy now considering what we are dealing with overseas, two wars happening, both israel-hamas war and russia's war on ukraine. >> it's complicated because he did with his shadow diplomacy in the middle east set the stage for what then followed with the breakthroughs in middle east diplomacy, that sadly are now falling air part is what we're seeing, but certainly lasted for, you know, nearly half a century. also, the early years of the soviet union in the cold war which made it possible for what reagan did and george herbert walker bush, those were important, and then the stain on his legacy, vietnam, prolonging the war, going into cambodia, laos, thousands of americans dying who didn't need to die, arguably, the war could have ended sooner. he won the nobel peace prize, and the war didn't end when he declared peace was at hand. it's a complicated legacy, but you have to look at the post white house, post state department years and the fact that for nearly half a century he has been a world leader, author, scholar, and the most influential foreign policy thinker of our times. >> andrea mitchell, thank you as always, my friend. appreciate it. i want to bring back into the conversation, leon panetta, former secretary of defense, and director of the cia, thanks for sticking with us. appreciate you. if you will, speak to us about how you view kissinger's legacy upon his death? >> well, i think andrea was right. there's no question that he has earned a place in history as one of the premier policy leaders in our country if not the world. at the same time, he has a mixed record because he was involved in a great deal from vietnam to the cold war to china. and he was the ultimate pragmatist. he really believed that you did what you had to do in order to accomplish things in foreign policy. as secretary of defense, as director of the cia, i oftentimes spoke to him to get advice with regards to world leaders because he knew the world. he knew history. he knew the players. and he understood what was in the best interest of the united states. so it was good to be able to have that opportunity to listen to somebody like henry kissinger, but as far as history's concerned, and it's true for other figures in history, he will have a mixed record depending on what part of his record you really focus on. >> secretary panetta, thank you, sir, appreciate it. >> you bet. still ahead, everybody, the funding fight continues on capitol hill over funding for israel, what the white house wants and what's realistically going to happen. that's coming up next. up next. but...he wasn't. gain flings with oxi boost and febreze. when i was diagnosed with h-i-v, i didn't know who i would be. but here i am... being me. keep being you... and ask your healthcare provider about the number one prescribed h-i-v treatment, biktarvy. biktarvy is a complete, one-pill, once-a-day treatment used for h-i-v in many people whether you're 18 or 80. with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to undetectable—and stay there whether you're just starting or replacing your current treatment. research shows that taking h-i-v treatment as prescribed and getting to and staying undetectable prevents transmitting h-i-v through sex. serious side effects can occur, including kidney problems and kidney failure. rare, life-threatening side effects include a buildup of lactic acid and liver problems. do not take biktarvy if you take dofetilide or rifampin. tell your healthcare provider about all the medicines and supplements you take, if you are pregnant or breastfeeding, or if you have kidney or liver problems, including hepatitis. if you have hepatitis b do not stop taking biktarvy without talking to your healthcare provider. common side effects were diarrhea, nausea, and headache. no matter where life takes you, biktarvy can go with you. talk to your healthcare provider today. 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