i am going to the next show. i don't concur says. nick you so much for coming here and speak with me. that is tonight's read out, all in with chrissy starts literally right now. in with chrissy starts tonight on all in -- >> what are they afraid of? i am here, i am ready. >> the president son springs the trap, and republicans show their hand. >> what are you hoping to gain from an impeachment inquiry? >> all i want to see is donald j trump 2024. >> tonight, the impeachment push not even in full in fox news. >> we don't actually have any facts to that point. there is no evidence that joe biden did anything illegal. then why judge chutkan paused trial proceedings in the wake of jack smith's supreme court gambit, and today's big new in the supreme court will take up its biggest abortion case since the dobbs when all in starts right now. good evening from new york, i am chris is, about two hours ago, the republican-controlled house of representatives voted to formally open an impeachment inquiry into president joe biden by a narrow nine vote margin, entirely along party lines. every single republican voter started the impeachment process over, it's not really clear. no one seemed sure what exactly the charges, and to be clear, the bar for productive discourse out at this, historically, on a republican majority, is as low as it gets. this is the same house republican majority that took 15 votes to elect a speaker of the house. they say republican majority to fired that guy after only a few months on the job and at the concert without a speaker, the second one, for the presidency, for three more weeks, the same republican majority constantly at risk of an eternal strike led by extremists and political analysts, a cultish devotion to the man who tried to remove american democracy and is promising to do it again. be in by that standard, this impeachment inquiry is as transparently signal as anything they have done yet. they've been at this for nearly three years. for the moment, president biden was sworn in, they were waiting to impeach him. the facts can come later. here's the thing about many house republicans that is important to understand. they are just as adrift in the conspiracy fever swamp as the most extreme portions of the maga movement that they represent. over the past couple of years, i think a bunch of them convinced themselves that there really was some big smoking gun that would prove that joe biden was guilty of grifting money from foreign governments, which i think is the charge eight again, not clear. joe biden, quite famously, it's about the porous man in all of elected government on the federal level for most of his tenure in washington. that is the guy who they want to believe is not just corrupt but wildly unprecedentedly corrupt in front of everyone's faces while serving as vice president, and no one, no one sniffed it out until now. that's the story. that claim, i think, it's fair to say, is astonishingly difficult to believe, which is why republicans have zeroed in on violence on hunter. that is a man who has publicly struggled with addiction and dysfunction, for most of his adult life. house republicans have hounded the president son under biden to the ends of the earth for years. so, we actually showed up to washington today to make his case for himself. >> i am here to testify at a public hearing today to answer any of the committees legitimate questions. republicans do not want an open process where americans can see their tagless, expose their baseless inquiry or hear what i have to say. what are they afraid of? i am here. >> he's right. republicans don't want an open process. that would risk exposing just out tetanically week their case actually is. >> mr. biden said that his father had no involvement in his business dealings, period. how do you respond? >> that's not what kevin hart just said. there were cow phone meetings, you name it, we know what happened. from december 4th to the december 9th timeframe. >> first of all, the day actually said that they had nothing to do with the business, so he's got that wrong. but, get this, like about the clip that we just played, they are still in the ear of our lord, 2023, trying to make burisma a thing. burisma, because he forgotten, which you are forgiven for doing, burisma is the widely debunked conspiracy theory that donald trump said rudy giuliani to dig up and ukraine. that is the one that trump tried to threaten zelenskyy into pushing publicly, even though it was nonsense. the actual high crime that trump was impeached for, for the first time in 2020, that is the source of it. here we are, four years later, including nearly an entire year with a republican house majority investigating these claims, and that is what they got? they got the thrown away rapper of a scandal from 2020? they got nothing. don't take my word for though, ask republican senator chuck grassley of iowa. >> i have no evidence of that, and i will follow the facts where they are, and the facts have not taken me to a point where i can say that the president did anything. >> that is a grassley, not some never trump than. oh chuck rossi as been doubtful about this for years to. if you're so -- even the weatherman on the fox and friends couches not buying it. >> congressman, excellent question for you, have you found -- have you found evidence that anybody broke any loss? you don't actually have a in any facts to that point. there is no evidence that joe biden did anything illegal. i heard you yesterday referred to them as a crime family, and it is organized crime. make it easy for us, what was the crime? >> the crime is that you are creating policy for money. >> which policy? >> we are going to get into. that >> just the way. congressman james comer, chairman of the over second 80, the guy leading the charge against biden, that's the captain, has done such a poor job outlining his case, that he is getting torch by steve doocy of all people. in fact, get this, comer won't even go on fox and friends anymore. he is fighting in his new space on and even more maga network. >> why would doocy say, for all the work that you have done, you had nothing, why do you think that is? >> he's had that position from the very beginning. i quit going on fox and friends because of doocy. >> why would that mean father doocy do you like that? if your case is so thin, that it won't even stand up to the soft scrutiny of fox and friends, i think it might be time to admit that you don't have the goods. but, of course, james comer and the rest of the maga caucus, those folks, know that they don't have it in the back at this point. they understand as well as anyone, how flimsy the cases, but they will do it anyway. for one reason and one reason only, donald trump wants them to do it. >> i rise to oppose the perverse and illegitimate effort to do double trump's dirty work. >> we are here today not because of any wrongdoing by president biden, but because donald trump wants revenge. welcome to the donald trump or french show. >> this has never been about the truth. this is about avenging donald trump. >> the problem is, they have zero evidence. the only crime is that joe biden blew out donald trump in the 2020 election. >> there is a through line to all of this, donald trump will violate the constitution to gain power and to keep it, and republicans will enable him every step of the way. >> you might be saying, that is just a bunch of democrats, we don't believe them. what about maga republican congressman troy nehls of texas. >> representatives, what are you hoping to gain from an impeachment inquiry? >> oh i can see is donald j trump 2024. >> thank you, congressman, there, you have it. >> however, donald trump is facing the most legal peril of any presidential candidate in the nation's history. he's likely to be until at least once in the near, perhaps more times. his sick offense in congress are desperate to counter program with a trial of their own. that is all today's vote was about. congressman jamie raskin of maryland served as a top democrat on the oversight committee. he led the second impeachment of donald trump. he joins me now. today, i suppose today was not a surprise, and yeah, i have to say that i still am a bit shocked. i am, a little bit, that they are going to do it apparently. what is your reaction? >> they got nothing else to do, chris. there is literally no legislative program. they just want to cut off the people of ukraine. they are not interested in humanitarian assistance to ukraine or to people in gaza or to helping people in israel, none of it. they are not interested in any of it it's all about getting that much from back into power. so, i agree with you, i am surprised to, because their investigation is so patently fraudulent and merit-less, but they don't care. the real things to keep it going into the next year into the campaign season. donald trump can say, yeah, i may have 91 federal and state felony charges against me. i may have been impeached twice for the last time for inciting a violent insurrection against my own government and vice president and the constitution, but, look at what is happening at joe biden. they are impeaching him, there will be a child, who knows, maybe it will be in the fall, right before the election. >> again, it is so to me transparently a son, and i say that, honestly, having spent time looking into some of the weeds of this stuff. there have been four impeachments presidents in american history. there would have been a fifth with nixon, had he not resigned. in all of this cases, from andrew johnson to richard nixon to bill clinton to donald trump twice, the conduct at issue was undertaken by the president while he was president. like, that is clearly a core principle here. they are not even pretending. i don't not think that this could be said enough. they are not even pretending that there is a thing there of joe biden's conduct as a president to impeach him over. right, am i missing something? >> the funniest exchange that i have ever seen in congress for saturday and the rules committee, when joe the goose was asking a republican rubberize or, just tell us, what is the crime. he said, that is what the impeachment inquiry is for. but that he said, what is the crime that you're looking for in the inquiry? he said, that is why we're having the impeachment inquiry. then he said, what are you looking for? then somebody passed him a no, for high crime misdemeanor. and then he tore up his hands and said, which one? it is amazing after 11 months of this wild goose chase, they cannot identify what the criminal event is, what the criminal offense is, why joe biden should be impeached. remember, these are people who voted against impeaching donald trump for inciting a violent insurrection that smashed all of us in the face. they saw that with their own eyes and voted no. now, they're voting for and impeachment inquiry for an event that can be defined. it's making a mockery out of the constitution. >> just because he referenced it, and i agree, it was and illuminating exchange. let me play that exchange that you reference with congressman, take a look. >> what is the specific constitutional crime that you are investigating? >> we are having an inquiry, so that we can do an investigation, produced the witnesses -- >> what is the crime that you are -- >> high crimes, misdemeanors -- >> which high crime and misdemeanor are you investigating? >> it's like a time, i will explain. >> i can't get an answer. i don't think members of the oversight committee can get an answer, or that means committee, or the judiciary committee. i don't think that there is an answer. >> this is something that, it is a grave constitutional step, and here is another thing that i am thinking about today. again, you were there all along, i think that there can often be a kind of instinct in the mainstream press, even public perception that. partisans do this to each other. democrats go after republicans, republicans go after democrats. as someone who lived through this without a trump, and i remember covering this, there are some parts of the democratic caucus that wanted to attempt to impeach donald trump early on. i think even some colorable constitutional claims, for instance, the violation of the -- class. it just did not happen until the ukraine focal, because there was a sense that we don't have something that rises to the level of an impeachable crime. there really is a difference in the way that democrats conducted this with donald trump, and what the house republican majority do. >> you are absolutely right because, at this point, in the eyes that the republican on crimes, like what we're talking about with biden, become crimes, because they want them to be -- and the real crimes, like inciting a violent insurrection, that wounded and hospitalized a 150 hostages, killed people atop the government, it's not a crime, not an event, it was a normal tourist visit, as you know, which is why american tours are not very popular abroad these days, apparently. everything is completely inverted, but another way of looking at this is that it all goes back to donald trump. if you follow the call to trump, joe biden was an illegitimate president, even though he won by more than 7 million votes, there are 60 3:32. they tried to block him by every means possible in the states and the oj, by getting the vice president to take a walk and so on. none of it worked. they tried to stop biden, and some of them, including at least stefanik, stand by what they did. and to this day, they believe that biden must be taken down by any means necessary, and that is all the impeachment is about. it's punishing him enough to try to bring him down in the election. that's where we are, back to the basic struggle for democracy against the autocrats and the kleptocrats and plutocrats and the for your kratz. we're surrounded by them, but i hope and believe that the democrat party is up to task. >> yeah, this is just another front in the battle. congressman jamie raskin, who shares a birthday with tell us with, i learn today, happy birthday, congressman. >> you are very kind. >> i, thanks a lot. coming up, hunter biden goes on the offensive. for six years, i have been the target of the unrelenting trump attack machine, shouting, where's hunter? well, here is my answer, i am here. >> what the new plan of attack means for president biden and his family next. his family next. ay treatment used for h-i-v in many people whether you're 18 or 80. with one small pill, biktarvy fights h-i-v to help you get to undetectable—and stay there whether you're just starting or replacing your current treatment. research shows that taking h-i-v treatment as prescribed and getting to and staying undetectable prevents transmitting h-i-v through sex. serious side effects can occur, including kidney 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that joe biden cannot comment on the ongoing case, that the department of justice is pursuing against his own son. hunter biden has also not wanted to further dira or injure his father politically, so he has largely kept silent. but he appe have decided recently that enough is enough, and you have to say something and you're on the fence. as betsy woodruff swan reported and lical today, quote, hunter biden's public address on wednesday surprised many of the house republicans who have subpoenaed him detoxify behind closed doors, getting wall-to-wall cable news coverage, he showed up on the turf to reiterate that he would only testify in public. joining me now is betsy woodruff swan, national correspondent for politico. betsy, i had been reading your reporting on this throughout. i had to say, i was so struck today, partly because i work in television, but here is a person that i have read profiles of, read print interviews with, no a fair amount, right incredibly intimate things that he has set, or have been said to him, because of his laptop being leaked. i don't think i have ever seen the guy speak, and i was so struck by, here is this person, an actual human being and guy, talking to us. it was a striking moment. what did you make of it? >> it's fascinating, because he is one of the most covered people in american public life. if you look at stats about people who frequently feature mostly in fox news, the daily mail, hunter biden is those at the top of the list. there is an extraordinary amount of public interest, especially right wing media interest of him as a person. but, for years, he engaged in what folks close to him have called strategic silence. there was a conscious decision by hunter biden, by advisers closest to him, going back to the genesis of the justice department groping into his taxes, that he needed to keep a set down, stay away from the limelight, not do the kind of thing that he did today. and the calculation was, if he cooperated with the doj and kept his head down, things would go well. eventually, and expose the tory narrative would emerge. that all changed dramatically at the hearing in july, and then in august, when merrick garland named the justice department investigating hunter biden as a special counsel, that was a key moment in the thinking of hunter biden and his allies. at that point, according to one person i spoke to who is supposed to hunter biden's legal team, the calculus changed. a change from last engaged and strategic silence to, let's give up from having hunter keeps head down. one person i spoke to said, how is it possible for hunter biden to keep his head down, when they keep pulling his head up and walloping him? today, what we are seeing is very much a combination of this new approach that he has taken, such a striking moment this morning. >> it also signals that there may be more of this. here is someone who is, like you said, and enormous amount of public interest, is being constantly maligned, again, had the most intimate, vulnerable, awful moments of his life, in the throes of addiction, literally naked pictures of him on the floor of congress, pride out of him. just defending himself. i get it, i can't say as a lawyer, is seeking the the tax crimes he charge, i thought. no abby aloha had this to say about that. based on the facts and the law, if hunter's last name is anything other than biden, the charges and delaware, and now california, would not have been brought. i talked to lawyers who would agree with that. with this is me going forward? for sunday a one-off, or are we going to see more of this? >> i would expect war. i can tell you that hunter biden has told friends that he can't expect strangers to defend him, if he is not defending himself, if he is not public facing, still not speaking on the record, not entering into the fray. over the last few months, we saw that begin with him leveling a series of lawsuits against some of his most significant antagonist, including rudy giuliani, very much hunter speaking out and defending itself. what we are seeing now is him on camera, defending not just this character but defending his business record. today, he said he is proud of the work that he started to negotiate international business deals. he said is part of his time serving on a dozen different boards. clearly an illusion to disperse the board that has drawn so much attention from republicans. the audience for a hunters or marks today was not just house republicans, it was also house democrats. another person close to hunter biden told me that there has been a frustration among the president's sons and allies that so many congressional democrats had essentially accepted the republican narrative about hunter biden that he is a bad guy and never deserved to have these jobs. at least is that had no idea what he was doing. congressional democrats have been operating as if those arguments coming from republicans are a given. what we see today's hunter now telling not just republicans and the american public but also democratic lawmakers that, hey, in his view, it is argument, that is beginning to unfold, the claims that republicans have presented as air disputable facts, have not been disputed. >> once a day things also today, and i want to read this quote, it's so clear to me that big part of this is that the justice is putting his finger to the spiritual, emotional wound for joe biden. they know that this is the most brutal thing for him, his sons addiction, his lone surviving son, that he has already loss two of his children in this world. he said this on a podcast's. he said, what they are trying to do is kill me, knowing that it would be a pain greater than my father could handle, therefore, destroying a presidency. that struck me. i'm struck by seeing him today, at hearing him directly. betsy woodruff swan has been doing great reporting on the single. thank you so much. >> thanks, chris. >> still ahead, special counsel 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expedited hearing on trump's immunity claim. that would be good news for a defendant, hey, your appeal will be hurt quickly. not for trump, who his lawyers were pushing for a longer, appeals process, which might postpone the january six charles auto after the election. earlier this week, smith called trump's bluff. he is also pursuing a parallel role into trump's appeal, not just in the d.c. court, which is normally where you go after this kind of thing, but all the way up to the supreme court. trump now has this man's arguments to both courts next week. temidayo aganga-williams, a former federal prosecutor and senior counsel to the january six committee. danya perry served as deputy new york state attorney general as well as the assistant to the district tony southern new york, and the journey now. i want to get into the details because this is a quick pace, but trump, at the district level, i was president, i am immune. judge chutkan said, i don't buy. she issued a ruling that is persuasive. next up is the d.c. court of appeals. that is happening. jack smith is also going to the spring court and saying, hey, this will get to you eventually, can we get along with it. those are happening right now. the d.c. court of appeals responding today and saying, yeah, we can with this along. temidayo, what do you make of that? >> i think they're taking it seriously. i think it is important. judge chutkan has stayed to the deadlines of the trial. the discovery that i, retrumplicans, all that has to happen before the trial, that's all on pause because of the appeal. but great news for jack smith today, because the appeals court is expedited. jack smith is now on two tracks. he can win on the appeals court but it's also prepping for the supreme court to get that potential victory there, makes it more likely that we have a child next year. >> that was the one to today. chutkan said, look, she is not vacating that. she's not saying that the trial is not happening. he is saying it's all pause, we need to see how it turns out. the big question here, danya, it's how fast you will move. it does seem like the d.c. appellate court says, we can get going here. >> absolutely, as is the supreme court. they very quickly agreed to expedite this process to determine whether or not they will allow this leapfrogging to have been. all this is happening essentially next week or so, so we'll see if they grant it, it will just get the process go even more complete. >> i had to say, a member, once they were saying the supreme court argument over trap a law, might have been women's whole health, where before roe v. wade was overturned, antiabortion activists will try to create a bunch of owner regulations on abortions, like the hallways had to be eight feet wide. remember this moment with justice kagan be like, do we have to pretend that you guys actually care about this year? we know you're there to do. i love this so much, because there is this the greater law, where you presume good faith, but this seems so obviously bad faith here. here is trump's lawyers competing about their christmas vacations. this is their reply brief. the post schedule requires attorneys and support staff to work around the clock to the hallways. the shopping family and travel plans. it's as if the special counsel growled with his grinch fingers nervously drumming, i must find some way to keep christmas for coming by how? and citation dr. seuss. like, what are we doing, temidayo? i >> have to say, it's almost a bit offensive. >> it is. >> i think jack smith in every filing's forward has reminded the american people what is at stake. that we're dealing with a former president who directed the violence, who uses the political process to undermine power. when you have former president trump's lawyers here setting nursery rhymes, i think it undermines the significance of what we're doing. >> i am also like, bro, i don't give a down about your family vacation, i am sorry. there is stuff happening here. it's really important. it seems bizarre, special pleading. but again, the goal is to delay. >> to your point earlier, typically, if a defendant gets a, they would like to move this forward faster rather more slowly. here, it does really buttery their true colors here. >> they say, again, trump's lawyer brief, they say it's a complete attempt to interfere with the 2024 election to disenfranchise tens of millions of voters who support president trump's candidacy. it does seem clear to me that the explicit argument will be made increasingly up at this appeals chain. i wonder if you think even justice is coming from ideological backgrounds more adjacent to donald trump or appointed by him are going to cut into the argument. >> i think jack smith's response is a good one, which he is also focused on the american people. what he is saying that the american people have the right to know. i think he's empowering the american people that jack smith explained it. he should know whether the former president has engaged in misconduct. frankly, if you were defended, you want that, typically. you want to be absolved. >> he should be cleared before he appears to stand for the trial. >> if you truly is as innocent as he claims, he will want to have his day in court. he will want to remove the shadow from his candidacy and go into november without it. >> one of the things you're looking for, again, because of all the weird timing, the actual outcome matters, although, i think the argument for immunity is so thin, that maybe you guys disagree with me, but -- >> we are on the same page. >> yeah, it's a ludicrous argument, honestly, that what are you looking for next week, as these that on stuff to come in, like what we will see happen? >> we'll see, there is a little bit at play. there is the supreme court getting briefs on the 20th. and then we have 23rd for the court of appeals. it's possible that the supreme court could rule more quickly than bypass at the court of appeals. we know what the arguments are. jack smith set and his papers for the expedited appeal, we already know the arguments. maybe, too bad, so sad, if it bumps into your holiday plans, but this is largely briefed already. it's not going to be any new arguments. so, i don't think that there will be any real surprises, and we will see, there is plenty of precedent. although there is a unique context, a former president prosecuted criminally, there is a lot of precedent in favor of forming that ruling. >> lisa rubin, my colleague here at msnbc who covers legal affairs for us made the point that, she said, you know, the supreme court, to give one example, can move quickly if they want to. she talked about bush v. gore. buffy gore, they served in, stop counting, we will look at this and expedite the review. which is to say, this is all volitional. >> for sure, the supreme court is fully controlling it. i think that they are, then panda law clerks will be fully considering they 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which ratchets back how easy it is because it would be expanded under the obama administration? but that itself has tens of millions of people. >> imagine no tele-health. imagine no shipping abortion medication. that is how people in states are getting their abortions. if that goes away it is going to be already so bad, and pro-choice states. so now, imagine over half of the abortions are just gone. it is just going to be a nightmare. >> of course, it is so unpopular. that is not always the case. sometimes bad stuff is popular. the politics gods don't necessarily grant you that but in flori portion rights activists are pushing to get a referendum on thet in 2024. they are working er almost 900,000 signatures necessary. they say that it is validating almost 700,000. we might have one of these in florida and they have won in every state. >> polls show the majority of republicans support that ballot measure. 53% of republicans said yes. i would vote for that ballot measure. it's incredible. that is why is keeping the measure from getting to voters to begin with. they know that once it is on the ballot, they've lost. >> we saw this in ohio, we saw it time and time again. it is the only sliver of hope that i have here in this. do you feel at least invigorated by those political victories? >> 100%. i think it is hard not to be. you are just beating them again, and again, and again, at huge margins. airman so you are not alone. i think one of the things that republicans rely on especially when it comes to an issue like abortion is making people feel alone. >> -- you are not alone. kate cox who has made to be alone by the state of texas is not known as well. thanks a lot. that is all