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CNN Navalny July 7, 2024



leave behind to the russian people? >> oh, come on, daniel, no, no way. like you're making movie for the case of my death. like, again, i am ready to answer your question, but, let it be another movie, movie number two. like let's make a trailer out of this movie and in the case i would be killed, let's make a boring movie of memory. ♪ [ speaking foreign language ] ♪ >> alexei navalny is stepping back into another showdown with the kremlin. >> what to do with navalny presents a conundrum for the kremlin. let him go and risk looking weak, or lock him up knowing could turn him into a political martyr. ♪ [ applause ] >> are you not scared, alexei? >> what do you expect in moscow? >> navalny! navalny! >> unexpectedly vladimir putin has a genuine challenger, handsome 41-year-old lawyer alexei navalny who has chosen one of the most dangerous occupations in the world, running against the man who controls the kremlin. >> more than any other opposition figure in russia, alexei navalny gets ordinary people out to protest. >> if i want to fight putin, if i want to be leader of a country, i have to do something practical about it. well, i have to kind of organize people. [ speaking foreign language ] >> i was banned from everything, television banned. newspapers blacklisted, rallies, forbidden. i realized i can do a lot on my own with the support of my wife yulia, just small group of people i can rely on. zero money, a lot of work, internet and that's it. >> his youngest fans have turned to tiktok which has been crucial in spreading the word. >> navalny's posted hundreds of videos about his corruption investigations, and they are wildly popular. >> the kremlin hates navalny so much that they literally refuse to say his name. [ speaking foreign language ] >> our offices were raided, and they just confiscated everything, everything. they splashed a toxic liquid into my face, and my first thought was jesus, i will be kind of monster until the end of my days. as i became a more and more famous guy, i was totally sure that my life became safer and safer because i'm kind of famous guy, and it will be problematic for them just to kill me. >> and, boy, were you wrong. >> yes. i was very wrong . >> so we went to siberia to make a nice movie about local corruption. i expected a lot of police. i expected a lot of people who tried to prevent our filming, confiscate our cameras or just break our cameras or try to beat us. i expected that sort of thing, and i was very surprised like, hmm. why is nobody here? why is there a -- i even have the strange feeling like -- like a lack of respect. seriously i'm here. where's my police? the whole trip was the smoothest trip i ever had. i'm the kind a slave of thursdays because on thursday i have my online youtube show and then weekend i can spend with my family before another trip to another region. i was going home, and then i died. >> passengers on his flight from siberia heard alexei navalny cry out in agony . >> other passengers filming just after the plane makes an emergency landing in siberia. navalny then rushed to the hospital where he was put on a ventilator. his spokeswoman saying navalny was poisoned. >> his wife raced to be by his side . >> imagine that. [ speaking foreign language ] >> we've come to the conclusion that judging by the fact there were no poisons found in his blood or other biological materials he has a metabolic disorder, lowering of blood sugar levels to be specific. >> we're hearing state news agencies here that are backed by the kremlin suggesting that hallucinogenic drugs may be involved but not poisoning. 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[ speaking foreign language. >> to have your dad, an opposition leader being poisoned by we don't know what, we don't know how, we don't know when and just be in a random hospital. it was just -- it was surseal. it was literally like a book. >> hello. >> the doctors can't say anything about his brain. he will recover even if they manage to wake him up. many millions of navalny supporters are trying to figure out how to help. we in berlin are a small team. we have to dive into actually like getting things done. >> we all were very skeptical about investigating alexei's poisoning. as opposed to previous cases, this poisoning took place on russian soil so no one is going to share ctv footage with us. we won't have videos from the airport where they poisoned his flight in and out, and as much it is a hard to admit while putin is in power we'll never find out the truth. >> julia, how is your husband this morning? [ speaking foreign language ] >> it was so crazy, like it's putin's signature poison . >> we just started to tell him his story. alexei. don't worry. your poisoning was a murder attempt. putin tried to kill you with novichok, and he opened like his blue eyes wide and looked at me and said very clear -- come on, poisoned. i don't believe it. like he is back. this is alexei. putin is supposed to be not so stupid to use this novichok. his wording, his expletive. his international. if you want to kill someone, just shoot him, jesus christ, like real alexei. it's impossible to believe it. it's kind of stupid. the whole idea of poisoning with a chemical weapon. what the [ bleep ]? this is why it's so smart because even reasonable people, like they refuse to believe, come on, poisoned. seriously. 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[ speaking foreign language ] >> our expectation was once he's released from intensive care he will have a desire to go to russia immediately. to our great relief he told me i better spend several months here. i want to go back to russia strong and fully recovered . >> for the longest time i wasn't sure what to make of navalny. i had always wondered how much of an independent figure he is, or is he one of the many fake opposition figure created by the kremlin? i criticized him on twitter, but he was known for having flirted with the extreme right in the early days of his career. he walked side by side with some pretty nasty nationalists and racists. had he moved beyond that? had he actually become a reverse dark knight? >> alexei navalny! >> within all my career i've about asked the same 15 questions all the time. are you afraid? are you working for kremlin? what is your family doing? you have a responsibility for your family. when if it's foreign journalists they are asking about nationalism and russian march, and every one of them, jesus christ, just watch previous interviews. >> hold on. were there a couple of nassy guys at that march. zighaler would no be a different category you would not want to associate with. >> in the normal world, in the normal political system of course i would never be in the same political party with them, but we are creating coalition, broader coalition to fight the regime just to achieve the situation where everyone can participate in election. >> there's a lot of politicians that would be uncomfortable even associating or being in the same photograph as one of these guys. you're not uncomfortable with that? >> i'm okay with that and i consider it as my political superpower. i can talk to everyone. anyway, they -- the citizen of russian federation and if i want to fight putin, if i want to be leader of a country, i can -- i cannot just ignore the huge part of it. well, there are a lot of people who call themselves nationalists. okay. let's discuss it. we're living in a country where they are poisoning politician and killing people and arresting people for nothing, so, of course, i'm totally fine to sit with the guy who is -- whose rally looks kind of not very good for me. and so much more... like a free samsung galaxy z flip4... ... and netflix on us. with t-mobile, get benefits that add up to more than $225 in value each month. switch now and get a free samsung galaxy z flip4, and even more! only at t-mobile. i would say that to me an important aspect is too... meta portal with smart sound. helps reduce your background noise. bring that sense of calm, really... so you come through, loud and clear. meta portal. the smart video calling device that makes work from home work for you. it's time for the biggest sale of the year, on the sleep number 360 smart bed. why choose proven quality sleep from sleep number? because proven quality sleep is vital to our health and wellness, only the sleep number 360 smart bed keeps you cool, then senses and effortlessly adjusts for your best sleep. and tells you exactly how well you slept, with your sleepiq score. our smart sleepers get 28 minutes more restful sleep per night. so, you can be your best for yourself and those you care about most. don't miss our labor day weekend special. save 50% on the sleep number 360 limited edition smart bed, and free home delivery on all smart beds. ends labor day. ...years faster than our initial projections. when you see things differently, you can be the difference. capella university sees education differently. our flexpath learning format lets you earn your bachelor's degree at your pace. online sports betting to fund real solutions to the homelessness crisis. so how will that new revenue be spent? new housing units in all 58 counties, including: permanent supportive housing, tiny homes communities, project roomkey supportive hotel units... and intensive mental health and addiction treatment. in short, 27 means getting people off the streets and into housing. yes on 27. [ speaking foreign language ] the russian media didn't find anything, and german investigators didn't have the jurisdiction, so we realized there's nobody was going to actually actively investigate this. unless we jump into this. we knew that the poison was novichok, and novichok we had proven in the previous investigation is only manufactured in this facility called the signal institute. the signal institute in moscow works under the guise of a r & d center that develops advanced form of sports, nutrition drinks. that's the legend, and yet they employ for this work 12 scientists whose only experience and background is in chemical weapons. our hypothesis, this is the entity that actually provides the poison for the killers which travel around the world poisoning people with novichok. so what we did is we bought from the russian black market. the phone records for the head of the signal institute. we looked at numbers that only appear just before the poisoning of navalny, and those were suspicious, but once we have a suspicious number, you go through a number of russian apps that allow you to see how that phone number is listed in other people's phone books, so, for example, i put in my number, and it would show up as kristol the journalist from bellingcat because somebody would have put my name into their phone book and that description would be shared. first number i showed up alexei, doctor from fsb. that was interesting, doctor from fsb, alexei. couldn't place a real person behind this name and looked to see if that number shows up in a car registration database. that alexei owns a car and then you have a real person with his birthday, look up his passport file and see his face and you repeat that many times with the other suspicious numbers and then you have a short list of interesting people, and these became our prime suspects. now we knew when navalny had traveled to siberia. we had the actual passenger manifest of six different flights that had flown where navalny flew from moscow on the day before, during and after the day on which he arrived there. so we wanted to see if any of those suspicious people traveled to siberia at the time of the poisoning, and we found an overlaps. we found a nest of wasps we didn't know existed. it's a domestic assassination machine on an industrial scale. i was absolutely shocked that this was so fast and the whole plot disentangled so quickly so i reached out via twitter and said alexei, i think we may have found who poisoned you. >> after i went out of the hospital, i decided to move into the black forest and live in some small village. you can just walk for hours and not meet any person at all. these are my friends, little ponies and friend and donkey is julia's friend and this is routine of our walk. come here, my little pony. isn't he sweet? better than your donkey. >> everybody likes a small pony. it's like usual. >> come to me. you're scaring him. go away. go away. poor guy. donkey. of course, you like me. oh, come on. this is a very -- woman. come here, my horse. road carrots. you will grow big. they are very cute but they are not very smart so they decided for their fence not to provide electricity. >> don't do it. [ speaking foreign language ] >> yulia wanted an apple and asked me to take it, but it's germany so it's someone's apple, and there is a police over there. i'll come there when it will be dark. >> and there's no police. so you're a russian criminal who arrived to germany. >> no, it's like a game. it belongs to the village. >> how do you know? >> this is a very russian style, you know, thinking about property like it belongs to everyone because it's an open place. just come and get it. >> the story of this guy who lives in vienna and is bulgarian and lives in russia and he has his own money and spent his own money on russian crime. he sounded too suspicious to be true, to be capable. he sounded a bit, you know, made up. >> are you confident that he is not mi-6 or cia? >> i'm pretty confident. i wouldn't say without a doubt, but i'm pretty confident that he's not. >> i was suspicious about this guy from twitter. i just saw his old laptop, and all these tables with the data. it turns out, and i was very surprised, that the whole thing about bellingcat is just one smart guy. no cia involved, no mi-6. he's just a nice and very kind bulgarian nerd with a laptop. may more cities, you get up to 10 times the speed at no extra cost. get verizon business unlimited from the network busine

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