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>> mr. chairman, on advice of my counsel, i respectfully decline to answer based upon my constitutional fifth amendment privilege. >> are you prepared to answer any questions here today about your participation in the 2010 western regional conference. >> mr. chairman, i respectfully decline to answer any questions here based upon my fifth amendment constitutional privilege. >> you can see how that is going. we'll have much more. the pentagon is saying more members of the military than initially reported may have played a part from alleged misconduct in colombia. so total here, may have been 21. it all allegedly happened before the president arrived in colombia and happened at a hotel he was not using. so you're talking 11 secret service agents and officers under investigation. they were sent home early. then these new details now, five members of the u.s. military who may have been involved, barbara starr reporting could be from the army and as many as five more members in addition to that. we're talking possibly 21 facing questions. and yesterday, the president did respond to the scandal. >> if the press reports are confirmed then of course i'll be angry. my attitude with respect to the secret service personnel is no different than those sitting here. we're representing the people of united states. >> i want to bring in a member of the external advisory board and former homeland adviser to george w. bush. first, prostitutes. i know this is something folks in the intelligence world are made aware of and told to avoid. what do you know about that? >> it's not just prostitutes. alcohol. whenever you're traveling, especially in a security or intelligence job, you're briefed and remined to be very aware of your surroundings. you possess sensitive information that could put the president or protectees in jeopardy. the notion that this may have been according to various reports a lot of alcohol involved, prostitutes, all of which are classic tools that are used by foreign intelligence services to collect information, this goes against over grain of their training against discipline, against the culture of the secret service. >> you mentioned the word culture. we're hearing questions about this culture from congressman darrel issa who heads the goth reform committee. is this an isolated incident, has it happened before? take a listen. >> to assume 11 people did something on a one-time basis is a little bit questionable. if one person has a personal failure, that's one thing. but for 11 people to violate the basic security premise tells us there's a problem larger. it would be regrettable if they close ranks rather than make changes. >> do you think this is a regular thing or did it happen once? >> i travel around with secret service agents and i was the protectee. i had never experienced or seen anything in the sort. bad judgment or inappropriate behavior, none of that. and so i question -- this seems aberrant against anything i ever witnessed myself. but whenever the secret service finds that there's been some sort of breach or failure, they do a very comprehensive lessons learned and they incorporate those lessons into future training. so this is a very long and storied organization that has sort of trained its agents to do a very professional job. and i think you can't assume that a single incident is indicative of a larger problem. i think we have to learn what the facts are. >> being the protectee, the general public thinks of members of the secret service as this elite, protective, sort of the palace guard. but i also know they're in these high stress environments. i mean, how would you characterize members of the secret service just from your perspective. >> once a year, the president would invite the ats and their families and children to the white house. it's a very tight organization. that's why i say to you, brooke, it seems against everything i ever witnessed on my own. to what the ethos of the organization is, very proud, very disciplined. i think this is an unfortunate aberration from their normal behavior. >> if, in fact, the allegation are true and we heard the president say i would absolutely be angry. >> despite his confession, he is claiming self-defense after killing 77 people with guns and bombs. plus, a 19-year-old accused of targeting black people in this rampage that terrorized oklahoma. breaking today, we we have a letter his mother wrote with big revelations about his family's past. ♪ ♪ wow... ♪ [ female announcer ] sometimes, all you need is the smooth, creamy taste of werther's original caramel to remind you that you're someone very special. ♪ werther's original caramels. guys. come here, come here. 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an expletive was thrown in for effect. another may appear as a hologram on sunday. petty and the heart breakers are getting ready to go on tour. wednesday, there is a $7500 reward for tom petty's stolen guitar tars. anders breivik killed 69 people, a lot of kids at a youth camp. another eight people were killed in a bomb blost in oslo ahead of time. he raised a clinched fist and said he did not recognize the authority of the court. sunny hostin is on the case. exforgets have given opinions about his sanity. why, though, is that so important to establish with regards to these proceedings. he's claiming he killed these people in self-defense because it was in his war against multicultu multiculturism. he's saying that's not true and he's claiming self-defense and they intend to prove it in court. he does not want to be found insane. he wants to sort of go with this self-defense justification. it's a very odd position, i think, that this case finds itself in because again, now you have a court finding him sane, finding him able to stand trial, yet what we're seeing in court as you just showed is very much in line with someone who may be suffering from mental disorder. >> he got on that island and told kids to come to him instead he was slaughtering these people. saved norway from being taken over by multicultural forces. how can self-defense apply here period. >> i don't think it applies. it doesn't appear to apply when you think about the diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia. i really wonder what's going to happen in a case like this. i almost feel like this is a case of first impression. it's something you don't really see. someone who refuses to acknowledge any sort of mental d d disorder yet is claiming self-defense based on his beliefs. >> what do they hope to gain from all those life details. >> i think they certainly hope to gain, brooke, a conviction in this case. they do not believe he was insane at the time of his actions. they tend to show this was a very deliberate massacre. and remember, 77 young people died. the prosecution is going forward with their case and they wanted someone who acted deliberately. a story out of oklahoma, the judge entered not guilty pleas for two men accused of a shooting spree in oklahoma. one of the suspect's mother has now written a letter to her son's attorney revealing very personal details asking them to help her son. what do you know about these details? can this attorney use this in court? >> it's really remarkable. it really shows a mother's love. she asked an attorney to help her child. she has taken on the case. she says he's not hateful. and obviously he also has african-american relatives. that they have african-american grandchildren. and that she is desperate really to save her son in any way possible. she's asking for this attorney to fight for his life. she's really interestingly enough indicating she has a severe drug problem and that she hasn't been as present in this defendant's life as she wanted to be. so it's a candid depiction of a mother's love for her son. >> sun ny hostin, thank you ver much. >> another chief operating officer of one of the largest social media sites in the world says she leaves work every night at 5:00. also live pictures here, this house hearing well under way. the general services administration, the gsa under fire for lavish spending at a las vegas conference two years ago. this house hearing is -- house committee is holding this hearing right now. we go there live coming up next. all right, let's decide what to do about medicare and social security... security. that's what matters to me... me? 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