ted, what do you see? ted rowlands, you there? apparently ted -- as soon as we get ted, we will go to him. but again, this is what you're looking at. i'm curious, i'm not sure, paul or ted, since they've been down in this crowd, if we've had any chance to do any sort of reporting here for the number of injuries, the number of people who have been detained, who have been arrested, and i would like to know that. and the crowd numbers as well. ted rowlands talking now. >> reporter: again, it seems as though we might be looking at a situation where -- >> so ted is on the air. he's not sure that he's on the air, and when we get ted for sure, we'll go back, okay? thank you. but again, this is live pictures and this is from cermak and michigan avenue, right near michigan avenue in chicago, and mccormick place is where they're holding the nato summit, and this is not that far away from mccormick place, so police are trying to push people west. they're saying, move west, move west, which is away from mccormick place. west would be away from the lake and further into the city. and if they were to go east, they would end up in the lake. north or south, if they were to go south, they would end up at mccormick place. so just to sort of give you an idea of where they are in the city. this is as peaceful as we have seen it as we've been watching these pictures over the last hour, so maybe a little bit longer here. you know these police officers are not taking any you-know-what off of these protestors. these protestors are angry. both sides have been standing their ground. they said we have the right to take to the street. we don't have the right to throw things at police officers. we saw buckets being thrown at police officers, we saw water bottles being thrown at police officers, we saw a police barricade being hurled from the protestors to the police officers' side, and we've seen police officers pummelling people and i don't know why. i don't know if the protestors in s instigated it or they didn't. i'm watching these pictures and wondering why and occasionally getting word in my ear of what's going on. i would like to know how many people were arrested, how many people were in the crowd, what were the complaints, how they plan to move these people out, what they plan to do with them once they move them out, why are they moving them west? to where? have any officers been injured. i don't know any of that. i'd love to know that. paul buchanan standing by for us. paul, what do you know? >> reporter: well, don, some of this has been loosened up because they have moved a number of the demonstrators west to cermak and wabash avenue here in chicago. i heard some of the questions you were asking, and sometimes when you're in the middle of this looking from the inside-out, it's hard to determine. we did not see any officers who were injured. i would say we saw about eight people being treated on the side not by any paramedics associated with the city of chicago or an independent group, they were treated by the medics who are part of the overall rally. one man told me that he was struck four times by chicago police with a baton. we have no idea of knowing whether or not he had provoked this or not. he also said, as you saw earlier, when people started picking up barricades, some people did get smashed, and one silver lining, i guess, to all of this, i saw some of the shutting with the barricade, and it's just good fortune that nobody was pushed through the glass window of any nearby stores or restaurant. the situation right now, i can see chicago police are pulling in some large vans now headed toward the biggest block of the protestors, and it looks like some sort of hazardous materials or emergency van. i can also see there is a chicago fire department and ambulance again toward that other area, so the attempt right now by police is trying to loosen up, as we said, this huge knot of protestors not too far from where the nato summit is being held. >> thank you, paul, for answering some of that, because those are the questions our viewers have at home. here's the interesting thing. the cops are there to protect the people who are at nato. but the people who are there who are protesting certainly have the right to protest but they don't have the right to be violent, and neither do the cops. it's an interesting situation that we're seeing going on here. the one in the bottom of your screen on the right, it's just -- every time i see it, i just can't imagine being any of those people who are on the ground or in front of those police officers. my goodness. i don't know, does anyone deserve that? so that's what happens when you have these situations. any sort of summit where you have leaders, any time you have a major number of politicians who are in town for the conventions, each convention that i've attended and reported -- i remember being in philadelphia and there were an arcists and there were protestors and the situations were very similar to what you're seeing now in that city, and this is back, what, in 2000 or so? any time there is a convention or anything like this with world leaders and politicians, there are people angry about one thing or another and some very legitimately. we're watching this because the violence has really escalated in the last couple hours. this is live from our affiliate was. >> what you saw was there a scuffle with one man -- it looked like just one man and a number of police officers, and here we go again with them trying to push back. let me tell you this. this is our ground shot. we're going to listen. >> you can hear. the whole world is watching. i know the whole world is watching, but i live in chicago, the whole city is watching, the police department, the brass are all watching at headquarters right now. they're watching at the office of emergency management. and you can better believe they're telling their officers you're being watched, you're being aired live on cnn, so mind your p's and q's. know that they're doing that. but it does appear that there is some situations that the police officers have either gotten themselves into or that the protestors have forced them to do, either way, that have played out on the screen for people to see and the videotape will be looked at to see who caused what and what happened. jessica yellin there is actually covering the business of this nato summit in chicago, and jessica, they're talking about afghanistan, they're talking about other things, and this is their backdrop. >> reporter: it is, don. and, you know, i have to say it's very quiet here inside the summit convention hall. one of the major -- the major focus here is afghanistan and what kind of commitments these countries gathered here will make in the next years to afghanistan when the president has said all forces will be drawn out by 2014. one of the big concerns? france. the new leader there has said as part of his campaign pledge that he will remove all combat troops earlier by the end of this year than they were originally planned. well, today the u.s. has found an elegant way to spin that and say, well, guess what, troops are already transitioning out of that region and it's not such a big jolt to afghanistan, and it's part of the transition plan, anyway. that allowed the president, when he was meeting with mohammad karzai, the president of afghanistan, to say the world remains in full support of the exit plan from afghanistan. listen to this. >> we are working with the afghans over the next several years to achieve a complete transition to afghan lead for afghan security, one in which we continue to provide support for the afghan national security forces, but have made excellent progress over the last several years. and also painting a vision post-2014 in which we have ended our combat role, the afghan war as we understand it is over, but our commitment to friendship and partnership with afghanistan continues. >> reporter: now the next step is to find commitments from the other countries here, don, for financial support going forward, some $4 billion total between now and 2014, and also to begin talks about what some kind of military support might look like after 2014. don? >> and other things besides afghanistan as well are high on the list to deal with. >> reporter: yes. there is a long list of issues, and usually it would be much longer, but because afghanistan is such a focus, a little more limited. one is pakistan. pakistan has cut off u.s. access to supply routes. usually the u.s. is allowed to use these to bring troops and supplies in and out of afghanistan. it's the easiest and cheapest way to do it. for the last six months, not much access, so they were looking to negotiate a way to get that going again. more progress to it, but it's not going to happen during this nato summit. and then another big issue of some talks about a missile defense system for europe. that's something europe really wants, but it makes russia very uncomfortable, so that's a bit of a sticky situation, but that will be on the table for discussion as well, don. >> all right. that's jessica yellin. thank you, jessica. we didn't see jessica but we know her very well. she is not only very smart, but she is very pretty. we did not see her there. she is just blocks away from these protests that are happening in chicago. jessica is actually covering the business of this nato summit that's happening, talking about afghanistan and the other things on the agenda there. but on the police's agenda right now, keeping these protestors at bay, keeping them away from the nato summit. as we listen in, we'll take a quick break and we'll be right back. 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>> reporter: yeah, we're getting pushed back by the chicago police and they're pushing the crowd into a very full area up onto the sidewalk, so as we merge from the street to the sidewalk, of course, people are getting pushed together even if you're not on the front line getting pushed by the police, you're getting sort of pressure from both sides. there is a lady crying next to me. she seems to be hurt. other people are kind of just trying to get out to some open space. but the vast majority of the protesters who were here earlier have sort of moved out of the immediate area, and the plan, if you will, of the chicago police seems to be working and they've been able to push them off the main part of the street, and now everybody has been pushed down to the sidewalk. >> hey, ted, before you keep going, i'm going to have you keep talking, but i just want to warn our viewers, you're hearing some words you don't often hear on television, but again, this is live, and some people are saying things they say when they don't realize microphones are on and they're being broadcasted around the world. >> reporter: now i'm having a tough time hearing you. the surge is pretty much over now. i don't know if you see a wide shot or not. the amount of people that is here is a lot less than it was even just a half an hour ago. >> i can't really hear ted anymore, so paul buchanan, paul, i can actually see you. paul, what's up? >> reporter: don, i'm out here on the street where a whole bunch of protesters basically were sealed off by police and moved this direction, and you were talking about the fact that there is some language here. one of the neighbors came out and told the protesters to go home, and they were exchanging some rather choice words. that heightened the tension in this area. i also see just a knot of protesters. i'm going to go ahead and tell you, stan, go ahead and pan this way, if you would, please. we've got more demonstrators and police sealed off in this part, which is cermak, and as we discussed, they're trying to move everybody west. you see both chicago police in the light blue helmets in their riot gear, and now we see some state police moving through, and again, the idea is to disperse the crowd. the crowd did come through here, and, in fact, this little corridor, if you want to call it that, not far from here is where some of the demonstrators were treating the injured just out of range of the camera. i just saw a single water bottle being thrown but i don't see any pushing or shoving. where i am right now, don, it's relatively calm, but with this type of fluid situation, it will be tranquil and all of a sudden it will just be a burst of activity and some pushing and shoving and more people will be moved out. as ted pointed out, a lot of people who wanted to leave have left already, don. >> do you have some protesters there who are going to talk to you, right? all right. if we do, paul, we're going to hear from them on the other side of the break. we're going to continue to follow this breaking news story and hear from some of the people in the crowd. what makes the sleep number store different? you walk into a conventional mattress store, it's really not about you. they say, "well, if you wanted a firm bed you can lie on one of those. if you want a soft bed you can lie on one of those." we provide the exact individualization that your body needs. wow, that feels really good! once you experience it, there's no going back. at the sleep number memorial day sale, save 40% on our innovative sleep number silver edition bed-for a limited time. only at the sleep number store, where queen mattresses start at just $699. back now live, we're covering the disturbances in chicago, just shadow and a stone's throw away from the nato summit. i just want to read here before we go to our reporter that i've gotten from someone on the ground. this is an official with the city of chicago but this person is not authorized to speak so i'm not going to use their name. o the official said, what happened in the altercation, i believe it's the one where the police are pummelling the protesters, it's 50 protesters. they started throwing objects, bottles and bags and other objects, throwing that at police and shoving. officials said police held the line and they extracted individuals who have been identified as agressors taken out of the crowd. so we're working on more information for you. okay. now let's go to the protesters down on the ground. paul, let's talk to some of the folks who are there. what are they saying? >> reporter: let's find out right away. excuse me. you're chris. show us your arm, please. all right. you say that was caused by what? >> a police baton. >> why? >> i got swept up and kind of pushed toward the front of the line, and as they were advancing on us, they started swinging on people in the front lines. >> reporter: did you say anything or do anything that you thought provoked this? >> nothing at all. >> reporter: what brought you out today? what is it you want to make a point about? >> i'm with occupy chicago and i do believe that nato is primarily about war agenda. >> how were you treated and why are you here? >> i've been treated with contention. we're not here to fight the police, the police are here to fight us. we're here to fight against nato, protest the wars in afghanistan and israel. i'm not here to fight the police but they seem to want to fight us. >> reporter: some might say, however, there's been a lot of taunting of police. i'm not saying that's what you were doing. >> there's taunting on both sides, obviously, and there's dissent among both groups. well, not both groups, within our group there is dissent. there are people who want to maintain peace, but there are other people who want to, i don't know, they want to fight back against the police. i'm not one of those. i want to maintain the peace. >> reporter: let me point this out. are any of you members of the so-called black box? so sorry? you're affiliated with the black block? have you heard your group is being blamed for a lot of stuff going on here today? >> yeah, but that's not true because all these people in the street, no matter if they were black block or not, were still technically in an unlawful assembly. and the police used force to get them out of the street. no matter what their affiliation is, they will use police brutality to disperse people. violent tactic. >> reporter: would you say the people would say you were provoking police? >> obviously not. we were standing here peacefully. people were pushing police lines, but even the people who were not were subjected to violence by police. >> did he say they were in an unlawful or lawful assembly, paul? >> i was trying to calm down one guy who was ranting a bit. but he wasn't assaulting anyone, he was being young and insulting. that's hardly a call for violence. >> reporter: let me ask you a question real quickly, though. you know over the weekend in court appeared people who were alleged members of the black block. they are accused of a campaign to go ahead and firebomb president obama's campaign headquarters, mayor emmanuel's residence and other sites. and there were some explosives. do you know who those guys were and are you aware of that? >> i'm from oakland. i don't have any idea who the guys were, but that shouldn't paint a picture of the larger black block group. i don't think any of the black block believes destruction of that kind is necessary. >> reporter: we appreciate you taking time. don, there you have it. some of the opinions here on the streets of chicago as things have kind of calmed down right behind me. >> it's interesting when you were talking to that guy, i wasn't sure if he said he was in a lawful assembly or unlawful assembly, because sometimes before a protest, you actually have to get a permit to do it. i'm interested to understand if they feel they were assembling lawfully on the streets, because there were barricades that were set up that the police said, you can stand behind this particular barricade and you can protest, but if you go this far, then you are in an unlawful protest or an unlawful assembly, and i'm wondering which is the truth here. paul buchanan, thank you. stand by, paul. if you can get that information, we'd love to hear that. we're going to continue to follow this, but we're going to take a quick break, and on the other side of the break we're going to readjust and update you on exactly what is happening in chicago just in the shadow of the nato summit. the president and world leaders in an all hell has broken loose chaos in chicago. this man is about to be the millionth customer. would you mind if i go ahead of you? 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