and what's wrong with this picture? kodak goes out of business or facebook pays $1 billion for instagram. and plus the one and only mike wallace. >> people like mike have an indefinable quality. and bubba watson living the american dream. >> it's awesome for a week. then back to real life. haven't changed a diaper yet. might have to change one soon. >> this is "piers morgan tonight." good evening. our big story tonight, the case that's dividing the nation. the trayvon martin shooting. george zimmerman launches a website today to raise funds for his legal defense. meanwhile the prosecutor says she won't use a grand jury. listen to reaction to that today from the martin family's attorney. >> we were anticipating that there would be no grand jury because the family has always been hopeful that there would simply have been an arrest. we believe from day one that they had enough evidence to arrest the killer of trayvon martin. and now as the evidence -- >> does that mean an arrest is close at hand? i'll ask some of the top legal experts in a moment. plus a man who loved a good argument on any subject at all. tonight, let's face it, anything could happen. >> don't even make the choice to be gay. i mean, when did i catch on to that? why do they not -- what is their problem with science? to live -- we're the future now. this is the 21st century. it should be science fiction at this point. and all they will deal with is fiction. were they beaten by nerds in chemistry classes? >> lewis black is currently foaming at the mouth in my greenroom ready to burst out here live. we begin with the story of trayvon martin. joining me is roy black and alex dershwitz and jeff ashton author of "imperfect justice." today was a significant day. this is not going to go to the grand jury. what does that tell you as a prominent lawyer? >> well, it tells me that the special prosecutor is not going to use a copout. she could have given it to the grand jury and pretend she had no impact on the grand jury. she would have told the grand jury exactly what to do. but she would have had the excuse of deniability. now she's saying this is my responsibility. i am going to make this decision. she is accountable to making this decision. and she should get it right. she shouldn't be influenced by public opinion. she shouldn't be influenced who has the better pr. she should look at forensics, bruises, photographs. >> roy black, ask this good or bad news for george zimmerman? if you were representing him, how would you be feeling tonight? >> i think it's bad news for zimmerman. i agree with al 100%. in florida the grand jury is where stories go to die. the fact that she's going to make the decision means she's probably going to charge him. >> jeff ashton, you know a lot about this florida law. stand your grand has been the subject to massive conjecture and examination. under the defense that we've now seen put up by zimmerman from his brother to me on this show through the lawyers acting for zimmerman, you can see the construct of their defense. which is that their client, george zimmerman is walking back away from trayvon martin to his van when he was jumped on. and from that moment he was then defending himself under stand your ground believing his life was in danger. if those facts are proved by evidence, will he get off under stand your ground, do you believe? >> well, if the evidence shows that he was acting in self-defense and that his fear was reasonable, then yeah. under the law that would be an absolute defense. under the stand your ground provisions, a judge could actually give him immunity pretrial. at trial it's a slightly different story. at trial the state has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt it wasn't self-defense. >> but from what you've seen so far, is there enough evidence either way? i mean, there's so much argument and counterargument, claim, counterclaim. is there enough evidence we've seen in the public or any form of media to actually make a case either way? or is this very likely now to go to a trial where a jury will decide? >> we don't know yet. i think what alan said in the beginning is true. this is going to come down to forensics, to the autopsy report, gun shot residue, bruises. it's going to come down to hard physical evidence. the state has got to disprove mr. zimmerman's claim of self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt in order to succeed at trial. so those hard pieces of evidence are going to be the key. >> can i add to this? >> of course. fire away. >> all you have to do is take the facts out of the police report. they say that george zimmerman's back was wet, it has grass on it from lying on the grass. he has blood on his nose, and he has lacerations on the back of his head. this is fairly corroborative evidence of self-defense. because he says he was jumped on and he was lying on his back and assaulted. >> but let me put it to you, roy black. if those signs of evidence were actually caused as a result of george zimmerman starting the altercation -- if for argument's sake he began pushing him around, where does that leave him under stand your ground? >> it is much more difficult if he is the aggressor. however, he's got the grass on his back and his back is wet. which corroborates the fact he's lying on his back on the ground while being hit in the face. >> what we don't know, we don't know whether trayvon martin's back was wet. it may have been. we don't know much about him in his condition, do we? >> you put your finger on it. if it turns out trayvon martin only has -- i hate to say only because it is the deadly wound. if it's only the bullet wound and there are no marks on his head. the stand your ground statute may be irrelevant here. he had no place to escape to, he could under any traditional law of self-defense whether it be massachusetts or new york could invoke self-defense as well. florida has a special provision. it says if the person initially provokes the use of force, he doesn't have the right of self-defense unless it then says in good faith the other person withdraws from contact or makes it clear that he's not going to kill. so here's one possible scenario. that is that zimmerman provoked it. then there was a fight. then trayvon martin got on top but then he pulled out his gun and trayvon martin started screaming help and looked like he wanted to get away but he was shot. that would deny zimmerman the right to use self-defense. this is such a fact-specific case. >> it absolutely is. >> you look at the police reports. you have to look at the evidence. there are probably photographs taken close range of the bruises on the back of the head. anybody who today speculates as to whether a jury will find the defendant guilty or not guilty is really doing no more than speculation. and there's a big difference between a prosecutor and a jury. a prosecutor could be influenced by politics. a jury will listen to all the forensic evidence that's admissible and a jury may decide something that's inconsistent with what the public wants, what the pros cutecutor or anybody e wants. >> let me just get into what george zimmerman has said today. he set up this website to raise money for his defense. he says on sunday february 26th, i was involved in a life altering event which led me to become the subject of intense media coverage. as a result of this incident and subsequent media coverage i've been forced to leave my home, school, employer, family and ultimately entire life. i mean, he goes on in quite a weird way, i think, when he starts quoting people. he quotes james w. lohan saying people have a right to their own facts. not backed by evidence cannot be given much weight. and then goes on to quote thomas payne. the world is my country. all man kind to do good is my religion. finally a quote from an album. a thousand words will not leave as much an impression as one deed. when you look at all that, i understand why he's doing this. i understand wipe he needs money. i understand why he should be entitled to raise funds. but he's almost behaving like a celebrity now. what was your take on it? >> well, you know, he doesn't have photographs or videos of a child to sell like casey anthony did to raise money for her defense. so i understand why he needs to go out and try to raise money this way. it does seem that he is trying to play into the celebrity aspects of this case. you know, he's -- in the anthony case jose baiz did much of this. we won't be hearing the stories change throughout the case like we did with mr. baez. and trying to get them to help him. [ overlapping speakers ] >> very quickly. alan, your reaction? >> i would tell him to keep your mouth shut. everything you say or that as attributable to you that your lawyer may say can be used to cross examine you and impeach you. keep your mouth shut at this point. wait until you hear whether there's going to be a prosecution. then present your defense in court. this is not a case to present his defense in the court of public opinion in the way he's now presenting it. it's a big mistake. >> roy black, quickly from you. >> the chances of george zimmerman actually writing that website are probably nil. and the problem with remaining silent until the trial today, it doesn't work. because they have an electronic lynch mob out there trying to crucify this guy. he's got to come back and say something. otherwise it's all over by the time you get to the courtroom. >> let me ask all of you very last -- i want a one word answer out of you three if you can. it's simple. could we, should we, will we expect to have an arrest of george zimmerman within the next, say, seven days. alan first. >> i think probably yes. i agree with roy black that i think the decision not to go to the grand jury is a message although she says don't take any implication that there will probably be an indictment. >> that was about 32 words just from my immediate guess. roy, you're allowed one. >> yes, he'll be arrested but a judge will dismiss it under the stand your ground statute. >> 12. we're getting lower. install my faith in a lawyer's ability to reply to the question i put in the form in which i arranged it. yes or no to an arrest within seven days? >> let me be shorter. i know angela corey and there's no knowing what she's going to do from these announcements she's made. she just -- it's not a clue. >> that was actually longer. but anyways. >> sorry. >> what it shows me is there are no simple answers in this case. that's what makes it fascinating and compelling. in the end the facts, i hope, will weigh out. and the family of trayvon martin will get justice. and the family of george zimmerman will want justice too. for now, thank you very much indeed. >> thank you. coming up next, the angry and utterly unpredictable lewis black. see what he's ranting about tonight. he looks furious. 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means you watch your neighbors, you don't kill them. that's what it comes down to. >> no. look. he's told not to go. there's just stuff there that -- you know, i don't know what the other circumstances might be, but you're told not to go there. you're told that the police will come in. you're told these things. doesn't there have to be a process that occurs where they at least yell at him. >> it seems to me in america where so many people feel so strongly about justice and the justice system that there are so many people out there -- i get it on twitter after i say this -- who say no justice was served. the guy was sent home for a reason. he did nothing wrong. he shot an unarmed teenager as it turned out. something has happened. >> something is wrong there. someone had a gun. someone shot someone. whenever that occurs, at least in most of the states that i've lived in, there is a process that occurs afterwards. the person is generally held for a certain amount of time so that an investigation takes place. you shot somebody. i mean, look. to me it makes no sense. i've never seen anything quite like it. it would seem if there was some real evidence that they had, we would have heard about it immediately. >> isn't it a problem 21 states in america have a form of stand your ground. all the evidence suggests that there are more and more killings now where people are using it as a defense. often they are drug dealers or they're gang members. everyone's using this now as a convenient way to avoid responsibility for shooting people. >> yeah. well, we now have more guns than we do people which is an important step forward for the country. because you want more guns. i mean -- in virginia -- >> you've got this big comedic thing. the comic festival in which you're honoring the first monument that honors the bill of rights. as you rightly have said many times, it's basically whatever people want to make those words mean. >> yes. >> if you take the right to bear arms. it doesn't mean the right to have a tank in your back yard, does it? some people would say it does. >> or the nuke thing i heard. i saw on the bill maher show the other night. you know, they want silencers when they're hunting deer. >> said the party conferences at the conventions coming up. apparently in tampa they're banning water cannons. but they won't ban handguns. you can't shoot somebody with water. you want to take a handgun out and blow them with dumb dumb bullets, that's fine. >> and you wonder what it's like to be a cop under those circumstances. >> impossible. >> it's just become -- look. no one is -- no one is -- you know, no one is saying you can't have guns in order to be able to hunt and do what you want in terms of that. or if you want it in your house to protect yourself. but there also seems to be that thing where -- you know, that there ought to be that responsibility in the law that if someone's got guns in their house and a youngster picks up one of those guns and gets out of the house with it, that adult is responsible for that youngster's action. as much as the youngster is. >> i agree with you. what can america do with the fact there are up to now 300 million guns out there in america now? what can it realistically do? >> have a bigger lottery. like a billion dollar lottery and you can only get a ticket by handing in a gun. >> that's actually a genius idea. >> they will be doing it. i can guarantee it. >> so incentive it. >> there has to be. it's one of those things that i don't -- look. for me, my -- when i was a kid, i had -- i was out in the woods with friends. i was a kid. i was 18 and i had a bb gun and i shot at a bird. a robin in a tree and it hit the robin in the chest and bounced off. the robin looked at me like i was a jackass. and i never picked up a gun since. >> what do you think of the gop? it looks now mitt romney is going to get it. even newt gingrich is flying the white flag. pretty much the end of the road when newt gives up. >> he's got no money. >> romney, can he beat obama? >> who knows? we've got all of that stuff between now and then and the economy. i mean, i think the -- you know, for me i was -- he's in the middle. so romney's as good depending where he wants the middle to be. >> he's just threatening some of the others. he's less threatening than a santorum, isn't he? to most americans. >> to most americans he is -- he's the kind of republican candidate. the one that generally you're used to. >> are americans angry enough to kick obama out? that's what normally needs to happen. they need to be angry enough with the incumbent that they'll vote him out of office. >> i don't think they're angry enough because i think they're exhausted. i think most americans are so tired. if the rhetoric hasn't exhausted them, the fact they've had to wander looking for jobs, there are two in a family in order to do this. the fact they can't afford their mortgages and the banks aren't making it any easier. it's tough enough to deal with verizon and at&t and who knows how much you're paying for gigabyte. every day is overwhelming. so to -- >> very quickly, what is the single thing that's made you the most furious since i last saw you? >> the single thing is that -- the thing i saw today that we're not training -- >> don't answer. we'll come back after the break. great tease. you're about to blow about something but no one has any idea what. your finances can't manage themselves. but that doesn't mean they won't try. bring all your finances together with the help of the one person who can. a certified financial planner professional. cfp. let's make a plan. according to the signs, ford is having some sort of big tire event. i just want to confirm a few things with fiona. how would you describe the event? 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>> i don't know how. i don't know how at a point in time -- and it's so weird. because also that thing, i'm reading it. it's like allied needs a hundred new drivers. no small potatoes kind of a job. get trained,