broadcasting. we'll have more straight ahead. we begin with that breaking news. also today fears that al qaeda could try to explode explosives hidden inside the bodies of terrorists. the warning comes on the one-year anniversary of the death of osama bin laden. reports in america and the middle east have been stepped up as we get new intelligence with hints at potential and future al qaeda threats. german agents found a memory chip in his underwear. first it looked like it was a pornographic movie but what they found was actual operations drawn up some of al qaeda's, drawn up by some of al qaeda's most senior operatives, the plans include hijacking a cruise ship, dressing the passengers in orange jumpsuits to mimic guantanamo bay prisoners. this morning we join commissioner ray kelly. nice to see you. when you hear about threats like this, a consistent drip, drip, drip of what's happening in the world and what could impact us here. how does that change how new york law enforcement does its job. it's not just police protection. you're heavily involved in terror protection as well. >> certainly core al qaeda has been discredited but the cells are very much functioning. we're certainly concerned about al qaeda surrogates in somalia, in maghreb, in other parts of africa and concerned of course about the lone wolves, the last three people we've arrested for terrorism here have been lone wolves and in essence, although al faisal shahzad did go to pakistan for training. we need a 360-degree training and al qaeda and the terrorist threat is very much alive. >> one concern that affects you the most, the cruise ship scenar scenario, a solo attack in mum buy. abc was reporting the bombs they would implant inside of people that could detonate, maybe the people would be able to make it through airport screening devices, there's one version that's most concerning. >> there's lots of threats. we're concerned about nuclear threat, nuclear event the thing that concerns us the most. the information about planting bombs inside people the intelligence community has been looking at that for a while. >> it's due to us and not new to you. >> a bomb maker in yemen has been talked about, even ham al asiri. i'm certainly the u.s. targeted him but all indications are he's still very much alive and very inventi inventive. it's the type of thing that the intelligence committee has been looking at for a while and obviously we have to be concerned with it. >> one of the things you hear on that chip they found according to nic robertson who is reporting a story for us is all the complaining that osama bin laden does on about the drones, how effective the drones have been, how concerned he is about the drones and i know there are pilot programs to try to get more drones in not only universities but cities as well. do we have drones in this city? using drones more in the city something you want to do? >> no, we are not. police agencies in other parts of the country, where there's more open areas, they're using them, we're not using them. certainly the drone attacks have been extremely effective and i think the administration deserves a lot of credit for that. >> not just checks for recording information and gathering intelligence, too. >> right, exactly. you know, they're monitoring demonstrations that sort of thing in other parts of the country but we're not using them in new york city. >> yesterday we're reporting that one world trade center is taller than the empire state building because they attached the beam, the rest of the structure is not there yet but it's difficult to say now it's a toll. do you worry what we've done is rebuilt a big giant target in the heart of the financial district? >> there's no other building in the world i believe that's built like world trade center one. it has cost a lot of money largely because of the security aspects of the construction, so it is a very powerfully built structure, but sure, we're concerned about a lot of targets. we have a lot of iconic targets in new york city. we know new york is the number one target for you stits terrorism. we have 14 plots against the city since 9/11. we are vigilant. we have over 1,000 police officers every day devoted to our counterterrorism efforts. we feel we have to, as a time when we're down in head count we still make the major commitment, because new york is still at risk of final attack. >> when the new building is built, you see the problem tsa at airports. people want security but don't want to wait to be individually scanned and every time a frand mother is set aside be, how could we put that all into a building to eliminate it being a target. >> we could use the sort of technology that is emerging, we have a campus security plan for that whole area that will hopefully allow people who are known to the technology so to speak to be able to get in with relative ease but yes, our world has changed. we're all going to be subjected to a lot more security checks. ufrg that's the world in which we live. >> are you going to run for mayor? >> i have no plans to run for elected office. >> all right, that sounds definitive. nice to see you, commissioner ray kelly, thank you. >> thank you for having me. other headlines this morning, christine has those. >> the occupy protest movement gearing up for nationwide protest this morning on may day. occupiers are hoping to reenergize by holding a day without the 99%, a general strike that means no work, no school, no shopping and no making. may day demonstrations are planned in more than 100 cities across the u.s. last night things turned ugly in san francisco when a few protesters through paint and broke windows at a police station and vandalized cars. occupy members say the man who did the damage was not a member of their group. a man sexually assaulted three young sisters 3, 7 and 10 years old in tucson. it's not clear if the assaults might be related to the disappearance of 6-year-old isabel selas. she vanished ten days ago, lives about ten miles away from yesterday's sexual assault. former imf chief dominique strauss-kahn finds out whether a system brought against him will be heard. the criminal case was tossed out. until now the only investigation being conducted for the secret service was by the secret service itself. 12 agents and members of the military are accused of bringing prostitutes to their hotel two days before a president's summit last month. nine agents have already resigned or been forced out. still ahead, delta airlines taking action to cut down on fuel cost. does that mean we'll pay less for our plane tickets? i hope so. what were they thinking, a couple arrested for towing their grandfather behind an suv in a toy car. we'll talk more about that with aung san suu kyi, will cain and ryan lizza. >> just will, just me. >> "marry me" you're watching "starting point." where is the rest of the gang? what happened? 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>> 1777 is about $200 million. by buying the airplane they secure the fuel for the airplanes. this is a strategic move and they get $30 million from pennsylvania for job creation and will put another $100 million into it because they're trying to maximize the jet fuel. diesel and gasoline will come out of the refinery, they don't need it and will trade it in for jet fuel. >> what does delta know about running an oil refinery? >> they have to hire the people to do it. it's called innovative. for years companies got out of anything that wasn't their core business. >> isn't this the warren buffett philosophy, you don't just own the product, you own the transportation that brings the product, you can own the entire chain and cut out the middleman and in the long run you make and save money. >> it might be more about just the access because there's a bigger issue here, the northeast. in the northeast there's some funky stuff going on with refine res, geared to take the european and north african crude. since libya last year the crude has risen $20, $30 a barrel. some of the requinryes are using $1 million a day. they need to make sure no more refineries are shut down. half of the refineries are could be shut down in the northeast. delta needs to make sure there is more jet fuel to laguardia. >> at the end of the day, does it save us money? do i as a frequent delta flyer, my atlanta-new york jaunts will i see a zoint, money saved? >> you will prevent having to pit an awful lot more when there's a shortage or spike in jeff fuel courts. it's not about you getting a break, it's about you not getting -- you know, i'm not going to use the word. it's about you getting on the plane, right. >> right. >> it's wondering whether other airlines follow suit. >> are other business, u.s. military getting intoet refining game and how much are they going to charge us for head cones? >> and how many of my baggage fees to do this deal. it's almost the chinese model. they still have to buy the oil but -- >> which is not a small thing at all. >> no but this is refining it where they need it. it's like the pizza dlifr drives past the gasoline station and the farmer delivering a pizza because he needs to get it delivered. rupert murdoch has been found unfit to run a major international company. big question now, is he going to be forced to step down from his media emtire as he does run a major internet company and a big get real to a couple who decided to tow their 7-year-old granddaughter behind an suv. didn't work so well pretty much for anyone at all. here's will cain playlist, john cruz "halawe." am i right about that? >> i think so. need any help? uh, nope. just, uh, checking out my ad. can okay, that's tom wait's "squo "jockey full of bourbon." >> you missed the first vocals. >> too slow. can i get some gospel and get people moving. yeah, a little slow. >> i've heard some gospel. >> let's play that. our "get real" this morning. every day i have my favorite story, not always a get real and it is no different today we talk about two florida grandparents from sarasota, florida, now under arrest because they took their granddaughter on kind of a wild ride, paul and gelind gelinde berloni accused of strapping their 7-year-old granddaughter to the suv using a dog leash and dragged her up and down the road giving her joy rides. she was wearing a swimsuit, nothing protective. >> well it is florida. >> not exactly a shocker when i tell you that alcohol was involved, in fact when asked by the reporter from the fox 13 news she said yeah, if they had some drinks, yeah, we did, this is what mrs. berloni, it's a sunday afternoon h a few beers no, big deal, i didn't think. you'd be wrong. grandfather not even supposed to be driving. he had a revoked license because of a dui they had ten years ago. >> eh. >> now in jail, trying to get the 850 bucks to get out of jail, charged with felony child cruelty. the kid is back with her father apparently he's really mad, the grandmother ms. berloni she was all "woot, woot, woot, the whole time anyway" now she has no supervised conduct with her granddaughter, not allowed to drink. >> the child's okay? >> now question joke about it? >> yes. sorry, did i leave that out? >> how fast, kind of key. >> they didn't say how fast they were going and the child is absolutely fine. >> that's great. >> i would never make fun of someone if someone was injured. come on, ryan. >> but having said that. >> wanted to make sure. >> grandma and grandpa not coming over to babysit any time soon. >> the drinking, the dog leash behind the suv. >> have they been offered a reality show? >> that would be a really good idea. >> you can imagine him setting the beer down going "i've got a great idea." >> not so much. still ahead we've not done enough to save the economy, that's what nobel prize winning economist paul krugman has to say. plus breaking news, rupert murdoch found unfit to run his companies. we'll bring you live to london with developing details. if pink slime was a phrase that disturbed you, wait until you hear about meat glue. anybody know what that is? >> great. >> and you might be paying even more of it because of meat glue. we'll tell what you it is straight ahead on "starting point." and pure natural flavors. coffee-mate natural bliss. from nestle. add your flavor naturally. 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>> reporter: well absolutely. shareholders are not going to be too impressed with this, to put it neither will. it's particularly damning for their attempt to take over the bskyb here. they withdrew from that bid and the regulator, they still hold 39% of company. the regulators will decide whether they have a broadcast license to broadcast in the country and another piece of damning evidence taken into account. it is very bad news for "ne "newscorps" globally and a blistering broad-side attack from a group of politicians in london. >> dan rivers thanks. christine has more now. >> the al qaeda's name being heard lawed and clear in election politics. the president is pumping up his role in his raid and questioning whether mitt romney would have ordered the mission in the first place. >> i said that i'd go after bin laden if we had a clear shot at him, and i did. if there are others who have said one thing and now suggest they'd do something else, then i'd go ahead and let them explain it. >> romney will be in new york today advise thing a firehouse with former mayor giuliani osam. >> as president obama said five years ago, if another nation cannot or will not take action, we will, and it is an unfortunate tact that to save many innocent lives we are sometimes obliged to take lives, the lives of terrorists who seek to murder our fellow citizens. >> they argued as more countries use technology they might play a role in terrorism. testimony about john edwards and rielle hunter. authorities say andrew young tried to use it to threaten it up as the affair unraveled. cheri young broke down in tears as she testified how the former senator asked her family to hide the affair with hunter for the good of the country. >> your a.m. house call this morning the numbers behalfinni s are showing babies born are