the military is ushered in any sense of leadership within interim government this morning and promises of new leadership and new structure going forward. we will have information about that as well as we go on a first 45 minutes this morning. president obama is encouraging the establishment of a democratically elected civilian government. several stories in the paper are looking at egypt when it comes to the $1.2 billion we offer in foreign aid. we will take a look at egypt's military with the ouster of the previous president, mahmoud morsi, and we welcome your thoughts. here are the phone lines this morning. if you want to join us on twitter, @cspanwj is how you do that. we have posted something like this on our facebook page, .com/cspan, and you can send us an e-mail. out thetary took previous president, mohamed morsi, and issued -- ushered in a new interim leadership. "he egypt army ousts morsi, suspends charter." you look at international papers n" paper out ofn pape" london. ahram," " ex-l- president morsi." daragahi with "the los angeles times" is in egypt. could you tell us about this interim leadership? who is at the head and where did they go from here? guest: the interim head is -- the interim head is adly months war. it seems like he is the front man of the people who are really in charge -- the military, the judiciary, and the security forces, the actual forces who pushed mr. morsi aside in the wake of these mass demonstrations. host: is it true that the leader was brought in under the previous president mubarak? guest: most of the judiciary is very much associated with the previous regime, and especially in the upper echelons they have been widely accused of being very close to the values and ideology of that previous regime. there is no reasonably that this gentleman is any different. this, i would is say, balance whatever, so to speak, because the street protests were real and the people's anger and demands for some sort of progress in terms of democratic and economic development are real. if you tries any kind of authoritarian moves, i think the situation is very volatile, and the people will go back into the streets. host: we saw al jazeera providing pictures of those who were supporting and against mr. morsi. what are the concerns of civil violence, civil war breaking out? guest: i think that is a big worry, what people are calling the algerian scenario. you may recall that old -- and the early 1990s the military stole an election from islamists. what ensued was a bloody eight- year civil war that continues to haunt the country. i don't know if that is going to happen here. the dynamics are a little bit different. history has worked out a little bit differently here. the brotherhood are a little bit more seasoned than the algerian islamists. that is a very real possibility, and something that people are concerned about. has a roleilitary in keeping peace as the situation goes forward? guest: absolutely, and it appears that they are trying to menace and intimidate the islamists. there is an islamist in, nearation, a sit- eastern cairo, and the army has surrounded this demonstration with vehicles and tanks and have arrested a lot of the brotherhood leaders. they have stood by as a shadowy thugs have burned down the brotherhood lost opposite -- the brotherhood's offices and headquarters. there shown the islamist that they mean business. host: some papers were concerned about future elections, that any time people weren't satisfied with leadership, the military could comment and sift them out. is that a concern? guest: this is way off of egypt's constitutional roadmap. this is not a good beginning for law and order, which is something that egyptians have craved for many years. , ass a really risky gambit even the more seasoned opposition leaders have admitted. host: as far as the new interim leadership, what is the timetable? guest: i think the timetable is still a little bit unclear. what they're promising is parliamentary elections soon, as well as a revived constitution. a lot of this is unclear at this point. they're promising a technocratic government that will solve some of egypt last -- egypt's problems. many of the problems are institutional. any strong political acting in order to be confronted. technocratic government rarely works in that kind of situation. host: was this a revolt against current conditions in egypt or was this a revolt against the muslim brotherhood? guest: i think it was a revolt against the boats. the economy has been improving and people would not have been so angry if institutions had been improving. and i think if the islamists had not in many cases so blatantly tried to strengthen and expand their power, and the economy was not doing so well, they might've had a little little bit .ore time to get back together the, nation of the two was the death knell for the brotherhood. host: when this kind of thing takes place in other countries, we often hear that it is the younger generation that move this along. was this the case in egypt? guest: absolutely. no, no, it was the younger people who led the vanguard of this popular uprising. the younger people, as is often the case, were not able to translate that into a real political movement with a real political aims, winning elections and real organizational aims. the adults came in and took over, and for now these are happy. let's see what happens in a week or a month. daragahi, you have spent some time covering the united states. what does this suggest that the current administration? guest: i think it is a tough situation. it is a tough situation in either way, either case. everyone here blames america, every side length the obama admin assertion for everything, and every side accuses the other side of being dupes of the americans. there is no way that any administration in this current situation in the middle east can come out looking good. host: one of the situations being written about this morning is the foreign aid we offer. guest: absolutely, and this is something that you guys in washington have a better grasp on. there are questions as to whether the administration can continue giving that money if what happened here is characterized as a coup d'état. there might be legal concerns in washington and i'm sure they will work that out. host: before we go, something off of twitter -- you mentioned that the term "technocrat government," and someone was asking what that is. guest: i think there is this fantasy that there are these competent people who can come in problems witht's their smarts. that is not how it works ri. are because ofs entrenched interests keeping institutions moving forward. you need broad political senses -- political consensus, brought by in. there is no magic formula that some technocrat or some smart guy with a degree can bring and apply and fix the problems. host: tell us some things that have happened that you have experienced firsthand firsthand and i've seen, things that may not have been reported in the papers. guest: i don't know, i think it a little bioo the police here, who haven psion rights violations, so happy and out on the streets and sharing and participating in these demonstrations against the president. i think it is a little bit unseemly and a kind of not a good sign, that the police feel emboldened. it is the same bullies who orchard and raped prisoners -- the same police who tortured and raped prisoners and created the whole crisis in the first place of that in the january 2011 revolution. daragahi of " financial times," thanks for your time this morning. as we move on this morning, for the first 45 minutes we want your thoughts on the things going on in egypt, particularly .s it deals with u.s. laws he -- u.s. policy. you can join us on the phone lines. if you are outside the united states and are observing us as well, you may want to give her thoughts. @cspanwj is our twitter page, thebook.com/cspan is facebook page. president obama weighing in with a statement from the white house, including a page from their flickr page. this is the national security team discussing the situation. from the paper statement, the president said, "we are deeply concerned about the decision of the egyptian armed forces to remove president morsi and suspend the egyptian constitution. i now call on the egyptian military to move quickly and responsible to return full authority to democratically elected civilian government as soon as possible through an inclusive and transparent process, to avoid any arbitrary arrests of president morsi and his supporters. given today's development, i have also directed the terrel asked the relevant departments and agencies to review the -- applications under u.s. law for our assistance to the government of egypt." as we look at that, we will go to your cars. gina, democratic line, hello. caller: i have a comment about egypt, but first i want to say, not many people remember this, two weeks before saddam hussein was wrong, he sent a message to the people of iraq, the sunnis and shiites,, and he wanted them -- he warnedght them, do not fight amongst each other, you will fight -- play into the enemy's hands could i find it very interesting and timely that these rights started right after morsi stepped in as a mediator and his maker between israel and hamas. let's connect the dots, people. host: john, michigan, independent line. caller: i wonder if our government, our congress is paying attention to what is going on here. maybe stop and realize how quickly the same thing could happen here, because, quite frankly, i see a lot of people that are tired of the way our government has been running this country. host: of course we at replace people via elections. you are concerned about the military stepping and? congress may think expect the military to step in between the civilians at times and i don't see the military firing on us. host: tom from pasadena, maryland. democrats line. caller: hello, thank you for taking my call, number one, number two, you should go -- reutu -- from reuters this morning, this is a look at the military aid that other papers have referenced. "u.s. quietly allows military aid to egypt despite wright's concerns -- rights concerns." john kerryof state quietly acted last month to give egypt 1.3 billion dollars in u.s. military aid, deciding that this was in the national interest despite egypt's failure to meet democracy standards. kerry made the decision well before and egyptian court this week indicted 43 democracy workers in what the united states regards as a politically motivated case against pro- democracy nongovernmental organizations. mustecretary of state certify that the egyptian government is supporting the transition to civilian government, including holding free and fair elections, and lamenting policies to protect freedom of expression, association, religion, and due process of law. the legislation, championed by senator patrick leahy, gives the u.s. government the ability to waive that condition if he deems this in the u.s. national security interest and provides a detailed justification." john, good morning. caller: i used to live in tahrir. 30 or so years ago but i've been back since the uprising in the meantime anyway. i'm struck by how much money the u.s. has been spending in egypt, and how little my local neighborhood just around tahrir has changed him even though the u.s. is spending all this money. you go two blocks away and you have the u.s. embassy, a fortress did it was in that way 30 years ago -- it wasn't that way 30 years ago. if you go out towards the parents, there are gated communities -- if you go towards the pyramid, there are gated communities, the military folks. nothing has improved. there are simple things that the u.s. embassy was doing, like teaching english programs, and they got really positive feedback from that. as far as i know they haven't really continued that. host: are you surprised with the events that are occurring there? , weer: when i was there always knew that the people did he wase sadat, and assassinated, as everybody knows, and then there was mubarak, and it was not a surprise that the egyptians didn't like mubarak. it was a wonderful place to live. i love my life as a student there. but it was no secret with the egyptians -- you could ask people what is your opinion about keys, war, jimmy carter, sadat, and so forth, and it was very, very mixed. life has not improved at economists will tell you that is the case. host: what about the role of the military? did you see that happening during your time there? caller: there were so many people in the military -- it was a way of providing jobs for people. i'm combining armed forces forces and the police and the security and so forth. aswere all told that foreigners come in the middle of the city, a cap track of us -- they kept track of us. uniform,ee people in obviously, but i cannot see people undercover and so forth. but we were told that there were lots and lots and lots of people in different aspects of security and armed forces. host: terrier square, according to the map in "the new york times," is on the western part of the city. as far as your final thoughts, what do you think lies ahead for egypt's future, especially when it comes to new leadership? guest: i have great hopes for new leadership. i love the country, and i have hope that the egyptians will sort it out and i am hoping to be able to be a part of that. i a proposal in for education in americanhelp the university to create a new generation of diplomats who are both egyptian and american and affluent with each other and they know life on the ground through the main places in egypt. that is the thing that would come through in a different way. host: and a democratically elected and democratic government, is that possible in your mind? i'm sure it is. i'm not as expert as your "fp" correspondent, but i would think so i hope so. ,ost: that was john in france giving his thoughts. you can do the same on our phone line. off ohost: off of twitter this morning -- patrick leahy who you heard referenced in a story aidt age egypt, give hi -- to egypt, gives his thoughts this morning. ,ost: that is pat leahy senator from vermont, chairman of the budget committee, giving his thoughts this morning. for our next 25 minutes or so this is going to be our topic of conversation, events that occurred in egypt, which you probably saw on the news and read about in the papers as well. if you want to give your thoughts this morning -- coleman, texas, republican line, hello. caller: the news reports show that the morsi government apparently arrested 60 groups that were seen as opposition, political opposition. -- it causess to us to reflect on what is going on in the united states, where the irs as a government agency targets political opposition, and now we hear the fbi is really part of that. it says that when the government andts using its power targets people, there is a potential for uprising. that seems to be playing out in egypt, and it certainly could be somewhat of a comparison of the government targeting political the present administration and that kind of thing. we have to be concerned in the u.s., and frankly, i think that is why the obama administration is somewhat concerned about that comparison come whenever you really get into it. host: george from liverpool, new york, democrats line. george from liverpool, new york. caller: yes -- hello? host: you're on, sir. keep talking, george, stop listening to the television. caller: i'm so happy what happened in egypt, because i lived in egypt for 30 years. morsi was really not a good leader for the country. and all the egyptians in egypt was in the streets -- host: what made morsi not a good leader? caller: he was dealing with the cup the questions there, it wasn't even with -- coptic christians there, wasn't even with minority, giving people unfair situation. .e destroys economy in egypt as a leader he is supposed to be a good leader for the country to lead them to forward to -- host: what about the way he was removed, with the help of the military? caller: the military is in good position. they are not dictators. they will not stay in their positions for long. , tos happy with being there they saveem, because islamictry from brothers, which are terrorists for me. host: john from georgia, on our democrats' line. caller: good morning, how are you? host: fine, thank you. caller: i have one basic question -- why are we giving aid to egypt? can't they take care of themselves? one, butr 2 -- i said number two, we need to leave egypt alone and let them work out their own problems. if you want to have exchanges of culture or even trade with them, that's fine. but for us to interfere with the internal affairs of egypt, of how they run their country -- leave those people alone. host: why does one not affect the other? caller: excuse me? host: why is it not a concern of the u.s. as far as stability in the country? caller: well, the thing that i find -- we are always being the policeman, particularly in egypt. we are always interfering in internal affairs of different countries, not only egypt, but other countries as well. like i said, if we want to exchange culture, exchange goods and stuff like that, , because we have to all live in this world. but for us to interfere with trying to spread democracy, i think we need to be more of an example rather than to try to interfere with the internal affairs of other countries. host: on twitter -- the independent" newspaper out of the united kingdom says that mr. morsi is being held at a facility in cairo. "meanwhile, other muslim brotherhood leaders were arrested in a crackdown on the movement that when several elections last year. declare thatadei the military coup that relaunched the 2011 revolution that toppled hosni mubarak. but in a statement published on mr. morsi plus of dachshunds to morsi's official facebook page, the resident said that it amounted to a full military coup." no direct timetable as the actions move forward, but the situation where people are on the streets, with some protesting, some celebrating, as you saw from al jazeera this morning, the pictures out of their of celebrations taking place on both sides of the issue. as you look at those, here is cindy from florida, independent line. caller: hi, good morning. i'm really next on this because i'm not sure if this is outside- instigated or it is truly really the people. it is really confusing. justso quickly -- they did this. and the guy that asked the question about why we are sending aid to egypt, well, it's basically that we send it aid to all of those countries to prevent them from attacking israel. it is like protection money. towe have to send it to them keep israel safe. , this is fromro the associated press, saying that egypt's interim president is pressing the protesters -- adly mansour o saying that they united egyptians. thoughts on this are welcome for the next 15 minutes. illinois, republican line. hi. caller: yes, good morning. host: you are on, sir, go ahead. morsi is a member of the muslim brotherhood and he said after he was elected that he would make the capital of triedjerusalem, and he to become a dictator about three months ago. the muslim brotherhood was '28 and was in cahoots with atul heitman, for the extermination of the -- adolf eichmann, for the extermination of the jews, and it was in collaboration with hezbollah and terrorist groups. i don't know why we are dealing with these people. host: what do you think we will -- will happen with egypt going forward? caller: it looks like obama will back the muslim brotherhood because hillary clinton's best friend is huma abedin, so he will put morsi back in. host: virginia. caller: i will try to be somewhat articulate because i am 85 years old. can you hear me? h