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>> he sang and danced his way into fan's hearts as a sweet core us loving football captain on "glee" now cory monteith is gone. just when it looks like congress can't get more divided they split over immigration reform. but a rift within the gop itself. we'll talk to two republican congressmen about what comes next. i'm shannon breen. america's new headquarters live from the nation's capital starts right now. the state of florida's case against george zimmerman is over now that a jury has found him not guilty in connection with the shooting death of trayvon martin. there's now growing pressure on the federal government to step in. hello, jonathan. >> that's right. some civil rights leaders are trying to get the federal government involved. more on that in a moment. but overnight reports out of oakland, california, of protesters smashing windows and setting small fires. people on both sides of this heated issue heeded the calls for peace in the wake of this emotionally charged trial. listen. >> we are very, very, very, very saddened, but we accept the jury's verdict in this case. >> reporter: nevertheless, they kept the protest peaceful here in florida. naacp leaders say george zimmerman racially profiled trayvon martin the night of that fatal shooting back in 2012. they say they're going to ask the u.s. justice department to seek civil rights charges against zimmerman. now, zimmerman's lawyers insist the case was never about race but a man defending himself during a violent attack in which he feared for his life. now, shannon, court order remains in effect withholding the names of those six women serving on the jury panel. later a judge will decide how much longer they can remain anonymous. and members of the jury did not respond to requests from multiple media organizations seeking their comment after the trial. shannon? >> jonathan, thank you so much. >> i'm disappointed as we are in the verdict, but we accept it. we live in a great country that has a great criminal justice system. >> obviously, we are ecstatic with the results. george zimmerman was never guilty of anything except protecting himself in self-defense. i'm glad that the jury saw it that way. >> both sides reacting last night following the verdict that came after 16 hours of deliberations. fox news legal analyst joins us from new york to shed light on what may have caused the jury to acquit george zimmerman. we'll start with the fact that really it was the prosecution's role and really their burden to persuade anyone. >> absolutely. the defense didn't have to do anything. the defense here presented a very strong case. what you had was a very weak prosecution case. there were times in the prosecution's case in chief where i would be looking at this thinking is this the defense case? you know, because every witness, prosecution witness after prosecution witness had something really positive to say for the defense. you had a weak prosecution case come head to head with very strong florida self-defense law. the law in florida, never mind the stand your ground law, but just the actual self-defense law is very strong. if at any point in that altercation that zimmerman felt that his life was in grave bodily harm or imminent danger, he had the right under florida's law to pull that trigger. so the jurors went back with this very weak prosecution case, a very strong defense case. and i'll give you one example there. one of the very last witnesses the defense called, this gunshot expert. man, he really sealed zimmerman's fate in the sense that he said what zimmerman had been saying all along, which is at that fatal moment zimmerman was on the bottom getting his head bashed in by martin on the top and therefore he felt that he was in danger of imminent harm. >> lis, do you get the sense that when the prosecution felt this case was wrapped up they had a weak situation going into the jury because at the last minute after they charged him with second degree murder, they asked the judge, we want the jury to also consider manslaughter. that had to signal to the jury that the prosecution didn't feel good about the case. >> absolutely. to be fair to the jury here, the jury wasn't part of all that, the machinations about whether manslaughter should be included whether the third degree murder, child abuse, they even tried to do that. the judge threw that out, thank goodness. the jurors didn't hear that. they wouldn't have known that manslaughter wasn't a part of this case from the very beginning, but did it signal to me and all of us that the prosecution had a weak case? absolutely. you don't go in at the 11th hour and try to throw spaghetti against the wall and see what will hit. if you feel like you've got a very strong second degree case. but they never did. they never -- they could never show beyond a reasonable doubt this intent because for second degree you've got to have the intent, the depravity of mind, the ill will, the hatred. they never show that. so such a weak case that i think it would have actually been thrown out had the manslaughter not been put in last minute. >> do you think ta the prosecution may have overestimated the ability of some of its witnesses that it called to have an impact in their favor? some of them it seems like almost backfired in a sense. >> absolutely. you go there the detectives -- let me back up for one second to answer your question more fully. remember that the first prosecutor, the prosecutor there in the county declined -- did not want to take this case. the detectives agreed. they said, we do not want to take this case. huh the strange dynamic that with a new prosecutor coming in with the same detectiveses that had said no, we don't want to take this case, we decline taking this case, having them to be proponents for the state. and that's why i say they really weren't in some ways -- one of them even said, i believe zimmerman. i thought he was telling the truth. that doesn't help the state case one iota. >> lis, we appreciate your legal expertise and for weighing in on this case. >> any time. emotions are running high following the verdict. in tallahassee florida, leaders sprang into action outside the state capitol. hundreds marched there in protest saying they would demand justice. violent protests. demonstrators broke windows and set fires. a police car was also vandalized. that demonstration followed a largely peaceful one in san francisco. they held signs and chanted justice for trayvon. your turn to weigh in. did the zimmerman jury get it right or wrong. tweet us your answer answers@shannonbream. ♪ it's like an angel crying >> cory monteith who played fin hudson on "glee" is dead. his body was discovered in a vancouver hotel yesterday. we're in los angeles with the latest details. hello, will. >> reporter: hi, certainly a sad day for monteith's family and friends all across the country. yesterday police in vancouver say they found the actor's body on the 21st floor of the pacific rim hotel. right now they say that there are no signs of foul play. >> there were others with mr. monteith in his room earlier last night but video and fob key entries show him returning to his room by himself in the early morning hours. and we believe he was alone when he died. when he missed his checkout time, staff went to the room at noon and found his body. >> monteith actually checked into rehab in april for substance abuse problems. and that's not the first time the "glee" star had actually gone to rehab. he'd spoken openly in the past about his struggles with addiction. his autopsy is scheduled for monday to find out what happened. hollywood is mourning. he's known for playing fin hudson on the hit show "glee." he'd been dating his co-star lea michele. we have not heard from michele. they say we are deeply saddened by this tragic news. corey was an exceptional talent and an even more exceptional person. no word on how this will affect the show's production or any story lines. monteith was 31. everyone we've spoken to today say you couldn't find a nicer guy in hollywood. >> we hear that across the board. thank you so much. well, there is bipartisan agreement that our immigration system is in need of reform, but when it comes to the details, there's still plenty of debate and not just across the aisle. there are still serious differences within the gop itself. republican congressman mario diaz-balart and mark brooks of california join us live. thank you for your time today. >> my pleasure. >> you are a member of the so-called gang of six, this bipartisan group in the house that's working on something. give us a status update and tell us if the plans will include a path to citizenship for those who are here now illegally. >> i unfortunately can't give you details of what we're working on, but i can tell you that we're moving forward with hopefully a proposal that will secure the borders of the united states finally and for sure. not a wink and a nod, but enforceable border security, that will help our economy, that will protect the rule of law, that will deal with the folks that are here that do not violate the rule of law and those who have done things legally or will do things legally in the future. that's our goal. no order to security the borders of our country, which ve have to do, we have to pass legislation and it has to be enforceable. we have a president who enforces laws as frankly kind of rather selectively. i'm being, i think, kind to him. so it has to be border security that's enforceable that is enforced, but to get this done, we have to pass legislation. >> congressman brooks, based on what you're hearing from your colleague who is a member of the gang of seven, not six. do that reassure you, the contours of something you could vote for? >> none whatsoever. so many statement made that i disagree with that i really don't know where to begin. first and foremost we need to understand the situation that we're in. we have an immigration policy because we have a white house that refuses to enforce the law. there's not anything that we can pass through congress, nothing substantive that the senate's going to agree to that will force this white house or any white house to secure our borderses. the loss we have on the book, if they were enforced, we wouldn't have an immigration policy. instead of talking about amnesty for illegals, we'd be talking about tweaking our immigration laws in order to enhance our work force needs. dramatically different statements. let's bear in mind the magnitude of what we're talking about here. we're talking about under the senate gang of eight bill, roughly 44 million foreigners who are either already here given legal status or who will come here over the next decade according to the department of homeland security. we only have 144 million people employed in the civilian work force. you're talking about -- even the cbo admits this, rising unemployment over the next decade, decline in domestic product per capita and the situation will get worse. we need to focus on americans, not foreigners. i welcome immigration. but we need to bring in people who will add to our society by producing more in taxes than they'll consume very important in the context of the trillion dollar deficits that have been wracked up during this administration. >> you mentioned that the president has enforced laws in some ways there are critics who say very willy-nilly, hayes sees fit. the administration doesn't defend those they're not interested in defending and they modify others that they should be enforcing. with your admission on that front and the senate bill that's been passed gives a lot of discretion to the department of homeland security secretary and now we'll be getting a new one, would you insert in your measure tougher teeth so that there is enforcementhat would be forced some of that discretion could be taken away from the dhs secretary. >> that is not acceptable because we have a president who selectively enforces legislation. so that's not acceptable. here are a couple of facts. i really like and respect mo. but for an example, 40% of the people that are here undocumented came here legally. but we have no way to track them when they leave. are we happy with that? there's nothing to enforce there because current law, frankly, doesn't provide for a system that is workable. there's supposed to be a system there, it's not workable. it's not there. now, what we must do is have laws that are enforceable, real border security. and here's another fact, whether we like it or not. there are 10 or 11 million people here undocumented. 40% got here illegally, never left. the rest probably just wurkd came across the border. are we going to just pretend that they're not here? that in effect is amnesty. in our group, we're not talking about amnesty, we're not looking at amnesty, we're not supporting amnesty. what i think is important is to secure the borders and knowing that we have a president who doesn't really enforce the law, is there a way to with triggers make it that it's automatically enforced, and i think there are ways to do that. and number two, is make sure it helps our economy. number three, let's protect the rule of law. but the reality is this, we can leave status quo that has allowed millions of people to come illegally to the united states or we can change that. number two is we can pretend that the folks that are here are not here and somehow think or wish that they're going to go away. that's not going to happen. and number three, we can have this system where, frankly, we don't have a legal system that works so we have people coming in that we don't want, we have people coming in that we do want, it is absolutely broken. the only way to fix it, unfortunately, is by passing legislation. >> i need to bring in congressman brooks and give you the final word here, sir. >> i disagree. much like the supreme court redefines the word "marriage." we've got people trying to redefine the word "amnesty." quite clearly i'm one of those who believe -- and i've explained this to the gop conference -- i cannot in good conscience ratify or reward peoples whose first step on american soil is illegal conduct, to thumb their nose at the loss of america. we have thousands who want to immigrate. let's accept the ones who will do it lawfully and let's not support anarchy or lawlessness. as much as i would love to support good legislation, i can't see good legislation on immigration passing the united states senate. even if it did, we don't have a president who is going to enforce it. so at this point i think we ought to sit back, let the american people look at what has been going on and hopefully give us a better senate in 2014 so we can pass constructive legislation instead of sending something to the senate that will come back to us in the house as a gang of eight, open borders and amnesty bill. >> clearly 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