0 >> that t-shirt is way too small. you can stream this show. follow "unfiltered" on facebook and instagram. that does it for us tonight on "unfiltered." don't forget to set your dvr i you can't make it live. lawrence: good evening america welcome to this special addition of cross country in moscow, idaho. tonight we're in front of the still no suspect or person of interest. the community has been left in limbo with more confusion and more questions. we're on the hunt for answers for them. moscow deserves answers. the students of the university deserve answers. these four young innocent victims deserve answers and so do their families. so let's start there. joining me now on set the parents of kaylee kristy and steve goncalves you guys have been so transparent and strong for the public. kristy, you called the person that did this the boogeyman. what did you mean by that? >> it's literally like what nightmares are made of when you're a little kid and think of the boogieman that's how i feel that's just the horrific details of everything. them just having a good time going home and going to bed and this happening to them. >> your best friend calling -- >> and the boogeyman comes. >> boogeyman doesn't meet you at mcdonald's. he comes and snatches you out of your bedroom. lawrence: steve, we've been talking i've been talking to folks in the community. you said something that stuck with me. you said until this person is caught, you can't sleep in your bed. >> no. i can't just lay in my bed and do nothing. that's not the way i raised my family. that's not the way i raised my girls and my son. you don't be a victim. you stand up for yourself and you do neferg your power to make sure people hear you. now they're gong hear kaylee they're gobbing to hear maddie ander and -- >> careful saying anything about them because i can't speak on anybody else's child but these two girls i'll do what i can do we're going to fight an figure out how to make sure that we hold everybody, you know, accountable and keep eyes and intention on this and get this thing resolved. >> steve you've made it clear to our audience that you're supportive of law enforcement you support the investigation. but recently i've been watching and talking with you, and you're getting frustrated. what does that frustration come from, sir in? >> it puts certain between you and officers that are making things happen and those people are like lawyers and they don't want to say anything and they descroangt the guts to come up and be alpha and be like leaders and say hey we might say something that's wrong and that i can hit so officers look me straight in eyes lead detective in my eyes no doubt he's working his hard as he can. but -- somebody isn't communicating there's nothing being released -- it seems like they're trying to suppress the story they're saying -- you don't want reward post wheres you do your rush you're not going to get students if they see these things but this community won't heal until this guy is pulled off the streets. it ain't going to happen. think it through. he has to be off the streets we're all working for the same thing. >> when was last time y'all heard from the police? >> thursday. we looked at our phone words we want to not sell anyone out. >> 3:00 on thursday. an update from the police about the investigation -- >> there was nothing, no update for you a waiver that was mail related. so we're wog with them we're not selling them out. we love our law support. fbi that's here, we just have no information as family and it gets tough day ever day after day. every day you wake up and think today is the day we're going to hear something and there's a break in the case and it will be something stupid. >> sixth person on the least that was never there. stop playing games this is serious people's lives and this is the future of this community. there's going to be 10,000, 15,000 kids that come in this year or they don't next year. so i'm serious. >> i had opportunity to speak to some of my sources and -- i've been told that there were differences in the way that the victims were killed. some were more severe than the other. and this week we hard the target attack and then a target attack what can you tell us about the targeted attack? >> they have told us that it was targeted. and they told us they can't tell who. we asked specifically they said we'll try to get that information to use and they got back to us a day or so later they said we're sorry we can't give you that information. but then a day later we saw on news that it was not targeted or they think whole house was targeted but -- >> i'll cut to the chase. they're means of death don't match. >> maddies -- and kaylees cause of death it does not match based on the autopsy report. >> it don't match. would you indicate that one of them may have been targeted -- >> gone up the stems let's stop playing games i need somebody to step up to be somebody to be a leader don't make me do it. i don't want to do it. there are points of damage don't match. i'm going say it. it wasn't leaked to me i earned that and paid for that funeral it is my right. ain't taking that from me if you don't want to say anything that's your bit but don't say i'm leaking anything i paid that bill. sent my daughter to college to get an education she came back in a box and i can speak on that. >> i was also told from sources that are closer to the investigation because there was a lot of roommates in there. and this was a horrific for those roommates that were there as well. >> absolutely. >> the preservation of this crime scene, witnesses tell me that it may have well been preserved because the phone was passed around between one of the fraternity members and the girls one of them unfortunately witnessed death. the body there can you confirm that? >> we cannot actually. we know nothing about that whole phone call. we've asked and it's, i mean, i know that a lot of people want to know but that's nots our agenda we're like somebody called 9-1-1 somebody reported unconscience we doangts know. we've heard so many different things and nobody has been clarified or -- been told to us at all. and, i mean, i don't know if i personally have asked anything about that. i don't know if you've asked that. but -- we know that this is getting three weeks in and it is starting to get we don't want to go cold. we're reaching out i've reached out to friends down in california today. that have connections that were hoping to get -- raise some money to get a reward to get a private investigate. third party. >> do you worry at the end of this week that this case may be cold? >> we're scared. >> we don't want a -- photo out there with a reward and information that kind of sounds like you're trying to suppress thes story. i mean why do you not need help? but hey i could be wrong and you officers i apologize if i'm wrong. i want to please forgive me but if -- but if you don't have the information people do know if they don't then this is a community that is i.t. based these guys live a digital foot precinct like all us older people don't know how much that digital footprint could be helpful so that's what we ask for. i hope like a dna -- family and start taking this town is not that big. we can figure out this and it might not be him it might be a family member. we have family all going to the school together. you know there's cousins, aunts, there's uncles we can find this guy just with -- lineage companies yeah. >> put idaho on the map. >> kristy, steve, we're going stays on this case. >> thank you. >> we're not going anywhere you've been candid with us we'll keep asking questions. any resource that we have available our sons praying for you guys. thank you y'all. it was big for you guys to come back to moscow tonight i know it took a lot of courage to do it. >> it took a lot. >> i'm hoping we can get some answers for you thank you for joining us tonight. one of the most forensic pathologist in the world doctor michael bonin you heard this interview with the family. one of the -- may have been the target there. what can you tell us first? >> the dad something that's very accurate that hasn't been said before. that when somebody is stabbed in their sleep they don't loose conscienceness right away they lose when there's enough bleeding internally or externally to -- impair blood flow and oxygen going to the brain. that may take many minutes. so kaylee and others could have -- were not just stabbed in their sleep and didn't fight back. they fought back and this for at least a couple of minutes this may and they could have very well called out and made, yelled out to wake up the other people. if possible, and that if there is a close -- a close struggle first of all it indicates in a stabbing that this is a person i would say a guy, a man who is very strong and not afraid of a struggle. not afraid that somebody will pull the knife from him or has a gun under her pillow that can shoot him. so it tells a lot about the struggle. and believe it or not kaylee or other people would have put their hands on his face got touched dna on their -- fingers. or hair grabbed the perpetrators hair with dna in it. so there are a lot of things that would happen in a few minutes struggle for each of those decedents after they come in contact with the perpetrator. >> family members that kristy and steve there's -- the result -- their own investigation -- [inaudible conversations] >> if you have the opportunity to view those documents, what else would you be able to infer from your reading of the report, sir? >> also, point that the dad mentioned is the number of injuries each of the four people incurred. that if this is a rage reaction against a person there, that person would have a lot more injuries because the perpetrator would keep stabbing or punching or even after the person is lost conscienceness and dead and wouldn't do that with the other people who once they lose conscienceness or they stop. so if autopsy report can be released, there would be forensic pathologist around who could give interpretation to that and if, i do think it is a targeted murder one person because the individual knew the place. he had been in that apartment before. and if this we dongt know yet if he wore gloves or not there would be bloody glove prints or finger prints somewhere in that house from the perpetrator if it is bloody they know right away that that's from the perpetrator if it is not bloody they have to look at all of the hundreds of finger prints that might be in that house because finger prints don't go away but washed away on the wall or whatever and then -- it may or may not be present in a database. but a bloody finger precinct would be invaluable or hand print. >> doc you are one of the best in the business if not the best in the world you're insight on this case has been invaluable also with us -- got it brother. thank you so much. so while talking to students here on the university of idaho's campus, i came across a young man who is good friends with ethan and he told me what it's been like to face this tragic loss. watch. >> i knew ethan -- >> what do you remember about them? >> this were really good people and always loved seeing them whenever they were around campus. ethan was a good friend of mine so -- pretty sad but i came back because i still want to keep pursuing my dreams but -- you know it is definitely harder to come back especially after that. >> do you think it's brought the community this university closer together or -- has a fractured the campus? >> i mean, i would definitely say it fractured it as, you know, not a lot of people are here. but in a way it's brought us together especially just moscow community and idaho in general. >> how do you feel about them not catching the person that did that in is this shocking to you? >> i mean given the little amount of evidence that they have and have found it's not too surprising they haven't found the suspect. but it's still just disheartening. >> just tragic. joining me now former inspector for the nypd paul morrow you've been going through the crime scene with me and talking with sources with me. one of the things that struck me this week is the back and forth you heard the passionate interview from the family they're desperate but when you have a prosecutor that is saying one thing and the police department saying one thing. why does that happen? you're a lawyer and a cop. explain to us what that means. >> so the reason this matters is there's a couple of things first of all the optic is that the two officers are not on the same page right and so there's a public confidence issue. personally i'm more concerned with the idea that does that mean that operationally they're not latched up together. long-term investigation like this you need the prosecutor with you as a investigating officer. they're going to have to do search warrant and subpoena and legal process and cyberstuff. some of the stuff that mr. goncalves spoke about and you have to dump phone and wi-fi you have to dump the cloud you have to go for the financial investigations. all of that stuff leads leading process and prosecutors bring that investigatory power to the table. they're great and you hope they're both singing from the same sheet of music. >> but i want this statement up on the screen and you brought this to my attention and police department brought up saying that official responses will only come from them. but the prosecutors chief law enforcement officer for the county they're ones that when we -- catch this madmen hopefully, they're going to have to try that in court. so do you read anything into that statement where -- they say every official statement come from them and not the prosecutor. >> hopefully not. you know but that's where this optic is coming from. the thing is as an investigators the human impulse this is true for cops they want to put their case together by themselves put in a nice neat bow, bring it to the proximate proximate prosecup on a desk and that's how it goes to the court and having that prosecutor with you from the beginning or early as possible, especially in a complex case is going to be ongoing and save you a lot of grove. the risk it so show up at the prosecutors office on the last day here's the case and to find out this is admissible this is admissible you did this wrong, that's the last thing you want. now i'm not saying that that's what's happening here. you and i have made great pains to say that pr struggles in this case don't necessarily equate to operational struggles. and that could be the case here as well. you just hope that they're operating again off of the same sheet of music all pulling together on same investigationings. >> real quickly paul but the parents you heard them they may go private rout now is that typical in a case of this magnitude? >> i haven't seen it. i'm not sure when you consider the fact that you have something like 40 fbi agents all of this help from the idaho state pd. obviously moscow pd is in this thing full blown as far as they could go i'm not sure what a private investigators will be tiebl bring to the table from outside of this. but look i understand the families are very, very concerned taken this terrible hit. and i just hope that this gets solved for their sake sooner rather than later. >> paul mauro great you're a great contributor up next i spoke to university of idaho student who staid on the campus and what concerns they might have and why did they decide to stay after this horrific killing. you don't want to go anywhere. more cross count