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>> i would like to say i love you and -- [inaudible] >> thank you for -- >> mike: beautiful moment there, carolyn, i'm sure hearing that emotion and seeing the emotion is what this is all about. >> absolutely. i'm a marine mom and i was reverse of captain donet where my son was deployed also named jordan coincidently and i know how meaningful it is for her and little jordan. i really appreciate the opportunity to get to meet her through this and to let the american people how they can support her and jordan and all who serve. mike: carolyn -- >> i want to say hi to my mom too and happy mother's day. >> absolutely happy mother's day. thank you so much. >> thank you. >> thank you. mike: before we go we want to
and the worst part about it is they're looked at as bad people because of the situation jordan neely was in. the problem is these are forgotten people in america. it's people that are dealing with mental illness. and there's an assumption if you have mental illness, if you're houseless, that there's something wrong with you and that you're a bad person. >> what is the family's reaction to -- to daniel penny being charged? >> well, i immediately called andre zachary who's jordan's father as soon as i got a call from the d.a.'s office. i wanted to hear from himself the words that daniel penny was being charged. i also contacted carolyn who's jordan's aunt. i wanted her to hear. it was important for them -- the first thing i heard was hallelujah. i heard shouts of joy, and i heard relief. however, they all said this is just one step. you know, i was talking with
>> first of all, how is the family of mr. neely doing? >> not good. they lost a loved one. and the worst part about it is, they're looked at as bad people because of the situation jordan neely was in. the problem is, therse are forgotten people in america. it's people dealing with mental illness. there's an assumption if you have mental illness, if you're houseless, that there's something wrong with you. that you're a bad person. >> what is the family's reaction to daniel penny being charged? >> well, i immediately called andre zachary, who's jordan's father, as soon as i got a call from the d.a.'s office. i wanted him to hear for himself the words that daniel penny was being charged. i also contacted carolyn, who is jordan's aunt. i wanted her to hear. it was important for them. the first thing i heard was, hallelujah, shouts of joy. and i heard relief.
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the memory of an assault, that, according to the law, never really happened. >> i was so angry that two people had to die in order for someone to believe me. >> did the system fail? >> it failed me. it failed carolyn. it failed jamie. >> you think about them a lot? they were total strangers to you. >> but they're my alternative future. i mean, they're what could've happened to me. i mean, they're what could've happened to any of us. >> a jury convicted ynobe matthews of carolyn's murder and sentenced him to death. he also pleaded guilty to jamie's murder. kristin faced him in court during the penalty phase. >> it was terrifying. i had to testify and i met carolyn's family and -- and jamie's family they all came out afterwards and gave me a hug. it helped me realize that their families didn't hold any grudge against me, you know. >> it's not her fault that my sister died. and kristin should have no guilt over that. >> with the casey family as witnesses, ynobe matthews was
game seven in franchise history for seattle, so it will be a big one. three more teams will have a chance to close out on saturday, as well. everything get started with them heading to the maple leaves. nba nhl in full swing next week. >> absolutely wanted to go back and quickly get your pick of who you think will take it all? >> oh man, that is so tough. in the east, the books are knocked out of it now. the big story line, will king james face the kings are golden date? golden state can somehow win this series, they are still dangerous, even though they are not quite as talented. they have slowed down a little bit since that championship team that has put so many up in the rafters. it is tough. i really like this team. i think they will have a meeting with the lakers. >> all right, we will find out. appreciated. as carolyn mentioned, kevin
joining me now with a more from new york. carolyn, that wasn't the only game friday night. they took on the grizzlies, as well as he >> yeah, that is right. laker superstar lebron james found that he would be better in game six, and the nba's all- time leading core is certainly a man of his word. he came out hot in front of his home crowd, made 7 of his first 8 sets. a monster slammed late in the first half. he has 16 points in the first session, one more in his total for all of game five. he finished with 22, they put it down in the second half, winning by 40 to clear out their first series at home in more than 11 years. >> we understand we had an opportunity to play in front of our fans. we came out with a disposition. with a next play mentality. even when we make mistakes, we brush it off right away, moving