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what they were hoping for by i think ultimately their intention was to intimidate free speech and to intimidate people who would come and share an idea that opposes their own. >> trace: aiden white, thank you for coming on. we appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> trace: in the meantime on this good friday, we would like to give you an easter sunday message and cover a little news at the same time. for that, let's bring in the pastor of the first baptist church of dallas, fox news contributor dr. robert jeffers. pastor, always great to have you on especially on a good friday a couple of days before easter. i just want to get the news out of the way first because karl rove wrote this op-ed in "wall street journal" and it was about the indictment of former president trump and he says whether mr. trump's indictment helps him win the nomination is an open question but his 2024 general election chances are now much slimmer. hush money for porn stars isn't a winning issue. will evangelicals hold that
are some of the left trying to muzzle the free speech of pastors? doctor robert with as pastor of the first baptist church of dallas thank you for coming on and we appreciate it we try to get you on friday but you got stuck on a plane. i am glad you're here tonight. i want to know and i was can as a friday what would you going t say to your members on sunday s now i want to know what you did say. >> what i did say to them was w don't endorse candidates at first baptist dallas but we certainly endorse issues and i encouraged our congregation to go out and vote against the godless leftist pro- pro- transgender pro- abortion agend of the left. we had an ovation and that people are going to do that. >> i think it's interesting because back in 2020 joe biden went to a baptist church and he spoke in them people didn't say anything but boy now you have
>> shannon: the southern baptist convention confirming that several of its major entities are under investigation by the justice department following the denomination's own year-long program of its handling and sexual abuse cases. let's discuss the investigation into the largest protestant denomination in the world with the pastor of the first baptist church of dallas. fox news contributor dr. robert jeffers. welcome back. >> thank you, shanna, for having me. >> shannon: so i want to read something from krista brown. she tweeted out that she is a survivor of abuse. she says i count myself a survivor not only because i survived 30 plus sexual assault of a pastor when i was a kid, but also, and perhaps even more so because i survived every attempt of a powerful megamoney ten secular faith institution to silence me and i'm still here. what you make of this? it's been a really painful situation for people experience the abuse, people who say it was compounded by people not believing their stories, this investigation that broke a lot
call 833-317-4673, or live chat at calhope.org today. ♪ >> we're back with a fox news alert. we're monitoring developing situation at a texas synagogue where a rabbi and at least three others are being held hostage. could this be yet another attack on religion? joining me now, pastor of the first baptist church of dallas and a fox news contributor, dr. robert jeffress. doctor, thank you for joining all of us today. your reaction, your response to this breaking matter, and you discuss basically the cooperation of the different houses of worship in handling matters like this? >> well, what we're seeing happening right now is every pastor's, every priest's, every
that there are spiritual forces that have been at work against the jewish people since pharaoh tried to extinguish the jewish people 3500 years ago. and those of us who are christians need to continually and consistently speak out against acts of anti-semitism. >> well said. lara in -- lara? >> pastor, thank you so much for joining us and giving us some insight here. i'm wondering if you yourself have ever received any sort of training. we know that, we just learned earlier the rabbi at this synagogue did receive some sort of formal raining. unfortunately -- training. unfortunately, in this day and age to deal with the situation like he's found himself in right now. have you had to take on similar training? have you thought about it? >> oh, we've thought very much about it. we feel a responsibility at first baptist dallas to protect our kong regants. we have -- congregants. we have active dallas police at
and try to do something nefarious. and i'm wondering if you think that that essentially is going to have to be the trend across the country to be able to prevent attacks like this, essentially, you know, congregation members paying their dues and being able to put those teams together to stay safe? because this just keeps happening. >> look, whether it's a mega church like first baptist church dallas or it's a small church of 50 people, we need to be prepared. and i think about this tragedy that occurred just a few years ago. i was here on fox talking about it, first baptist the church sutherland springs and that horrific massacre that occurred there. and the fact is no church is immune from this kind of attack, and every church, every synagogue needs to be prepared regardless of the size. and even if a church can't afford a security or team, a paid security team, you can have your own members trained to take
congress to help and russia's occupation. here in new york, allstate landmarks are lit blue and yellow for the ukrainian flag through sunday including one world trade, the empire state building in grand central terminal. minneapolis also expected to take part in lighting up key landmarks. many vigils will be held throughout the country praying for the people of ukraine. shannon. >> shannon: laura ingle in new york. thank you very much. your reasons questions, how should people respond to the attacks on ukraine and what about the growing humanitarian crisis? let's turn to first baptist church of dallas. pastor, good to have you back with us tonight. >> thanks for having me. >> shannon: continuing to hear her difficult circumstances and reports from the u.n. high commissioner for refugees saying
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