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a different planet, a different reality than what biden voters see. they both have this shared dark concern for really the core of the country. >> yeah, i mean, i think that the candidates are driving a lot of that as well. i mean, you can't hear a donald trump stump speech without hearing about world war iii, and how he thinks joe biden is going to start world war iii. i would say that, you know, candidates are picking up that mood. >> so you think that world war iii messaging is coming from president trump himself? >> i think that a lot of messaging comes from president trump, and you look at -- i mean, foreign policy isn't usually what drives voters, right. but he's arguing, you know, we wouldn't have this war in ukraine if donald trump were president. that, you know, that china is being emboldened by joe biden, and that tends to play on people's fears, and fear is a
>> what a great statement from mitt romney, by the way. that's refreshing and we could use more of that, clear-eyed assessment of what's happening in ukraine but, yeah, look, i think the key numbers there, is the group of people who felt we weren't doing enough to help ukraine, that's 17%, right so that is basically the pool of the party that you had the nikki haleys and mike pompeos and mike pences all fighting over that's obviously not enough to win a primary. the question question, that middle group, the group that's about right. to jonathan's point, foreign policy isn't their top issue they're malleable based on what they're getting from the media environment. i do think if it was still a place where mitt romney controlled the party and the fox news prime time hosts are saying we need to be stronger and joe biden is a little weak on ukraine, i think you could see that middle group move more into
nbc poll say there is an issue so upsetting to them they would carry around a protest sign for a day. this is on the right and left. the science would be different. what does it say to you? >> enthusiasm wins elections and look, as you pointed out, democrats have the house and senate and presidency and the country is going in the wrong direction. pretty hard for democrats to make the case it's putin's fault or republicans' fault. if you want different results you have to elect different people. not good for the establishment democrats. inflation is going the wrong direction. immigration is going the wrong direction, crime is going the wrong direct. foreign policy isn't going well. they stug -- struggle to find one single issue. they may talk about the roe v. wade decision and those people are already voting for
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biden? he flatly said no. and he moved on. which is in stark contrast predecessor who was the first iranian president to speak to a president. he spoke to president obama after the deal was final yuzed. he ruled out any stronger or longer deal with the united states, something that biden administration is very keen to extend on. he said that's absolutely not negotiable. but he did say iran's foreign policy isn't just limited to the jcpoa. he wants to normalize relations with saudi arabia and other neighbors within this region. he was also asked about his record at a time, at a time he was judged in the 80s. where he had had an alleged role in the extra judicial killing of thousands of political prurz. prisoners. he said he always defended human rights. adding that u.s. sanctions against him for human rights
what she's talking about. we want to help the poor or fair class. if they look at the numbers. the people they want to support are helped by president trump. they are so agitated. they hate to see the president win because it's bad for them when it comes to midterms and 2020. great for the american people. >> that's right. over the last month or so they would have thought, look, we have him on the back foot. the border issue we've discussed wasn't the finest hour. now you have this good news to change the subject. they go straight back to russia. >> so then they said well, the foreign policy isn't going well. they tried to attack president trump on the tariffs. the e.u. came to the table and talked about bringing them down to zero. ever ball is bouncing in the
senator cruz voted against the defense authorization bill every year he was in the senate. that funds the troops and the iron dome for israel. he voted to gut our u.s. intelligence programs, to rip out the patriot act that our intelligence agents use to keep us safe. his record on foreign policy isn't as strong as senator rubio's is. so i expect wolf will want to talk about that and we're happy to lay out the contrasts. >> see what happened? my man conan isn't want to get ahead of the senator but then gives you a laundry list of what cruz's short comings are. >> i'm just stating the record. >> so it will be interesting tonight to see how senator rubio deals with who is in front of him and behind him thanks for stopping by. a lot more coming up, the final showdown. and for some, may be the last chance to stay in the race. full coverage just ahead. and can you explain why you recommend synthetic over cedar?
militarily. anything else, sounds evasive or fudgy when you say bring together a coalition, and force them to come to a negotiated political settlement and yaud u yadda-yadda. well, fine. and u andima ultimately, the solution almost every expert i talk to, it's going to end in nonmilitary means. >> i hope so. i don't think the problem is sanders' position and a lot of the things he talked about today and that he talks about on those occasions when he does address foreign policy, there are things that the obama has been trying to do and there are things that hillary clinton agrees with too. the issue with sanders is it's kind of not in his bones. foreign policy isn't in his
political settlement and yadda-yadda. well, fine. and ultimately, the solution -- almost every expert i talk to, it's going to end in nonmilitary means. >> i hope so. i don't think the problem is sanders' position and a lot of the things he talked about today and that he talks about on those occasions when he does address foreign policy, there are things that the obama has been trying to do and there are things that hillary clinton agrees with too. the issue with sanders is it's kind of not in his bones. foreign policy isn't in his bones and the debate last saturday, they both started with a mention of what happened in
sanders' position and a lot of the things he talked about today and that he talks about on those occasions when he does address foreign policy, there are things that the obama has been trying to do and there are things that hillary clinton agrees with too. the issue with sanders is it's kind of not in his bones. foreign policy isn't in his bones and the debate last saturday, they both started with a mention of what happened in paris and their reactions to it and hillary talk about it for a while and sanders talked about it for maybe a couple sentences and then started talking about wall street. >> michael, smart and decisive. never a morphs. thank you. and coming up, what george w. bush said just days after september 11th and is absolutely remarkable to listen to. we'll play that for you next.