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Metropolitan police pay damages to man two years after stop and search

Exclusive: Tariq Stanley was smoking a cigarette in his car when he was approached by officers

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Met pays out to black brothers searched and handcuffed outside home

Brothers speak of trauma and humiliation after being arrested in front of family home in Chingford, east London

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130813:05:11:00

population, 80% in the stop and frisks being members of minority populations. what is your response to that? >> well, you don't stop someone who is a law-abiding citizen, who is going to starbucks, who have no intention of committing any types of crime. that's not the way you fight crime. you know, it's completely absurd, and i think it's also important to note these aren't minor inconveniences. these are very hostile situations. and for years it has been downplayed and watered down that, you know, these are minor inconveniences. and i think by the judge ruling in her findings that this is something that's a problem in these communities and it needs to be dealt with in a productive way. >> nicholas, let me just ask you about -- all of your stops that you described in the "new york times" in some real detail, in each one of them they begin and

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130813:05:15:00

going to go. if bloomberg is going to go and we're having these discussions around the country and congress as we've discussed is thinking about banning racial profiling, mayor bloomberg pulled off a neat trick in getting everyone to call this stop and frisk. today the court called it what it is, which is racial profiling. >> khary, quickly before we go, i want to get your reaction to what eric holder announced today. >> you know, my reaction is that it's a small step in the right direction. as we know, there's a problem with mass incarceration in this country, nearly 2.3 million people incarcerated. less than 10% are in the federal system. so this is only kind of the tip of the iceberg, number one. but it's an example of what can be done to get around the mandatory minimums. the second issue is that unfortunately i think it is also too late. i mean, attorney general holder has been in a position to do this for over four years. and so i appreciate the step now, but i don't think that the congratulations should be that intense because there's a lot

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130813:05:10:00

by the mayor is also something that inherently is very, very dangerous. we need to remember that there are over 2,200 murders in 1990. by the time this mayor came into power there were a little over 600. the great decrease in crime happened before he ever stepped into the mayoralty. so to insinuate that if we move away from his practices that blood will run in the streets and this will be a dangerous city again is something i think is inherently very, very dangerous as we come up on a mayoral election, that he's the only one it who can keep the city safe and there are police commissioners and elected officials all across the country who would disagree with that statement and their municipalities have also seen great decrease in crime. so just from a criminologist's perspective the numbers are wrong. and we have to make sure when we talk about this issue that the narrative is true, the narrative is consistent, and the numbers are accurate. >> nicholas, the mayor kept saying today that we run -- the way we run the program is we go where the crime is and that's why we end up with this overwhelming minority

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130813:05:16:00

more that could have been done, a lot more that should have been done. i'm happy the step was taken. but to really deal with 2.3 million people incarcerated we need to move much, much faster. >> cary lazarre-white, thank you. ari melber, thank you. nicholas peart, thank you, and congratulations for your participation in this historic case. >> thank you. coming up, north carolina's governor signed the state's new voter suppression bill into law today. and what does it take for a rodeo clown to get banned for life from the missouri state fair? we will show you that video. and the jury has spoken today in the boston trial of whitey bulger and time for the media to start rewriting their image of whitey bulger. that's in tonight's rewrite.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130812:22:13:00

continue to appeal and waste the resources of the public. >> so you're not here tonight, and neither of the two plaintiffs to gloat, even though i said congratulations. you really hope that this can lead to some healing and bring about a new day in the city and in cities around the country? >> absolutely. i mean, this is an opportunity to build back public trust and confidence in nypd. and we really hope the police department goes forward in that vein, rather than turning a blind eye and stonewalling a process that a court has ordered should go forward. >> well, i hope that all of cuss do that. i hope the city responds. david ourlicht and nicholas peart and sunita patel, i want to thank you all for being here tonight and telling your story. and i want to congratulate you for your courage. it's not about gloating. it i is not we didn't beat the city. >> we are the city. we are the city. and we got to work with them. >> i'm glad to have you on.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130716:03:35:00

fearful of the police. that is the result of this practice. it has nothing to do with homicide. so when he says that and he's not called to task on it he's able to put this false narrative forward. >> has that been successful, nicholas, in the way you think about walking down the streets in new york? has it made you fearful? >> certainly. when i have to -- when i know i'm more likely to be stopped at night in my own neighborhood, that's a problem. >> let me ask you, i mean, one question around this when you conflate this issue with what's happened with george zimmerman, when black children are talked to by their parents, they're often told, you know, to deal with the police in a very particular way. not to run, to talk to them, to look them in the eye. >> keep your hands -- >> absolutely. this is the talk you get. now let's look at the zimmerman case. here you have a situation where a man who's not a police officer pulls up in a dark car with a gun and says he wants to talk to you. any parent would say, don't stop and talk to them. run at all costs. so what are children suppose to be told when walking down the street? what is the lesson for young black men? >> if everyone can be a freelance arm of the law. >> where do we draw the line? what is the freedom? do black young men not have the right to pursue happiness and life and liberty?

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130716:07:31:00

after this kind of verdict? what message does that send? >> as soon as the verdict came down on saturday, my phone started ringing, vibrating, every message that was possible. people were dealing with the trauma of the verdict. people were dealing with the pain of the verdict. feeling like their lives did not matter. we can sometimes lose sight of the fact that a black boy was killed. a black boy was killed and he was killed in the space of a long line of black boys and young men who have been killed in this country. people say, we're not suspicious, we're not all a threat. our young people feel they are seen as threats and that's part of the historical on text as being seen as threats, black men and boys in this country. >> nicholas, you wrote this op-ped for "the times" about the experience of being stopped and frisked numerous times. i want to read a section of it. i remember reading it in the "times." "i was stunned and scared. there i was on the ground with a gun pointed at me. i couldn't see what was happening but feel a policeman's hand reach into my pocket and

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130716:00:35:00

able to put this false narrative forward. >> has that been successful, nicholas, in the way you think about walking down the streets in new york? has it made you fearful? >> certainly. when i have to -- when i know i'm more likely to be stopped at night in my own neighborhood, that's a problem. >> let me ask you, i mean, one question around this when you conflate this issue with what's happened with george zimmerman, when black children are talked to by their parents, they're often told, you know, to deal with the police in a very particular way. not to run, to talk to them, to look them in the eye. >> keep your hands -- >> absolutely. this is the talk you get. now let's look at the zimmerman case. here you have a situation where a man who's not a police officer pulls up in a dark car with a gun and says he wants to talk to you. any parent would say, don't stop and talk to them. run at all costs. so what are children suppose to be told when walking down the street? what is the lesson for young black men? >> if everyone can be a freelance arm of the law. >> where do we draw the line? what is the freedom? do black young men not have the

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