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your job, would you answer yes to any of those questions? let's talk about that and more. i'm joined by cnn safety analyst and former faa safety inspector david sussi and dr. sanjay gupta. welcome to you both. >> good morning. >> sanjay i want to start with you. is it likely a person who is having mental distress would answer truthfully on a question questionnaire knowing they could lose their job? is. >> it would be highly suspicious that would be adequate to try to find somebody because of the reasons you mentioned. obviously, you want to be a pilot, you answer the questions yes, and you're not likely to be able to fly, but also you know someone who is truly dealing with mental illness, just the capacity overall in terms of how they approach the questionnaires we know he was on at least at one point in his life on powerful medications. not for depression alone, but for psychosis, which can be associateded with delusions,
he was 22 or 23 he receiveded a powerful anti-psychotic medication which is typically given when someone is acutely agitated. this wasn't depression alone. depression can be treated. this was a psychosis, that is often a lifelong illness, much more difficult to treat. >> dr. sanjay gupta, david soucie thank you both. i appreciate it. still to come a blow to isis as the town of tikrit is liberated from its grip. we'll talk about that next. ugh... ...heartburn. did someone say burn?
>> and finally sanjay you know a lot of people suffer from depression in america. i mean some of the statistics you see, it's an incredible number of people. and most of them are not violent, but we're not talking about simple depression, when it comes to this guy. can you just clarify that for the audience. >> we are not talking about simple depression. i think we've been saying this since the beginning. depression alone would not have led to this sort of behavior. people who are depressed, as you say, are often not violent. if they are, it's typically just against themselves. what we're describing here is more of a psychosis picture, a break with reality, and also a mass homicide. so you know when people like neat and tidy descriptions of mental health diagnoses and like to attribute them to certain behaviors, that hardly ever happens, carol, and it's not going to happen here either. could it be a depression that became so severe that it was more of a psychotic depression so it was layered with delusions and hallucinations. we know five years alaska when
noticed he had problems but even she said she didn't notice how serious they were. is that possible? >> well you know with -- so take depression for example. they can be treated. they could be on medications that could be very effective. and you know have a very productive sort of life still being treated for depression. we do know he recently bought two audi cars. could that have been a symptom of the manic part of depression? we don't know. these are clues she would have noticed, other people around him would have noticed. but depression alone is not really what we're talking about here carol. it's the psychosis. and to your question you know someone can have a racing mind if you will, with being -- having delusions, ha loose naus naoose a hallucinations, and it's a lot to lay at the feet of pilot or other crew members to notice the signs. a lot of times they can be difficult for mental health
the co-pilot used to go with his girlfriend. it seems to coincide with some latest treatment. >> it is. it doesn't mean anything. when you add it to all the other evidence that you have then the probability, likelihood of that contributing rises. >> he was declared unfit to work according to the prosecutor. you just heard both pam and will talking about it. the clinic that's believed to have issued that letter they found in his apartment that says she should not be working, the letter that says he shouldn't be working on the day of this flight. the clinic said it was not treating him for depression. they both report he suffered from a mental illness. he could have been treated for depression somewhere else at some other time. if it wasn't depression right now, if that wasn't the reason for the letter saying he was unfit to work what might it have been? >> there's a whole range of disorders, medical conditions
good evening. tonight, the breaking news. new details tonight about andreas lubitz, the co-pilot who crash the flight murdering 149 people. his doctors had declared him unfit to work quotes around that. unfit tworko work before the crash. the new york times is reporting he was being treated for depression and hid that from his employer at lufthansa. police are scouring his apartment in germany. they have collected boxes and bags. among that evidence records this indicate an ongoing medical condition as well as doctors notes excusing him from work on the day that he actually flew. cnn is covering this break story from all angles. will in germany with new details about his condition. carl penhall near the crash site
that clinic he was treated there recently they are specifically saying that he wasn't being treated for depression but you are hearing from others that he was being treated for depression, is that right? >> reporter: well there are two issues there. one is that sources tell me that he was seeing another doctor not just at this hospital another doctor somewhere in rhineland. they won't be more specific than that. and people close to the investigation are skeptical about the statement from the hospital. they believe the hospital is trying to deflect attention away from itself rather than really be up front with what mr. lubitz was there for. >> i know given the sensitivities of your reporting and the laws in germany, you can't tell us who your sources are, but are they suggesting he was also on certain medication? >> reporter: i was told that he was taking medication but it was
in the meanwhile, there was a medical clinic here in town that said it started treating lubitz in february about the same time that he stopped showing up at the pizza place. they treated him in february. he came back in march for some sort of a diagnosis. they say it wasn't depression. investigators here at the apartment trying to put together whatever pieces they can to figure out what was going on in this young man's mind that caused him to do something so horrible that ended up costing 150 lives. >> thanks very much will. we will get back to you. i want to go to the crash site. more victims' families have gathered nearby. our senior international correspondent nick robertson is joining us. he is in this remote area in southern france. what's it like over there, nick? >> reporter: wolf the helicopters stopped working. it's night, so they lifted the crews out of that mountain area.
country. who stands to gain? i'm wolf blitzer. you're in "the situation room." stunning new details tonight about the co-pilot who prosecutors say intentionally crashed an airliner into the french alps killing everyone on board. based on evidence taken from the co-pilot's home officials now say he had an illness that he concealed from the airline and that he had been declared quote, unfit to work by a doctor. ripped-up medical leave notes were found, including one for the day of the doomed flight. the "wall street journal" cites a source as saying the co-pilot was being treated for depression by a psychiatrist and cites another source as saying he did not have a terminal illness. as the grim recovery work continues on the french mountainside where the plane disintegrated, german airlines are now taking steps to prevent the kind of deliberate cockpit lockout that happened aboard flight 9525. they are now mandating that two
was not submitted to the company. just a day earlier lufthansa said they had no medical or psychological concerns. >> he was 100% set to fly without restrictions. his flight performance was perfect. >> reporter: again today, the again insisted he had a clean bill of health adding we can't confirm or deany specifics about his medical condition for reasons of confidentiality. no suicide note was found. investigators say they found nothing indicating a political or religious based motive. officials say he was treated in february and returned for his diagnosis in march just two week weeks before the crash. they did say he was not treated for depression at the hospital. he was a running seen here in