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BBCNEWS Verified July 2, 2024



are continuing to leave the north of the territory after the israeli army gave them a six—hour window to head south. families with young children and babies carried what they could — some making the journey in carts pulled by donkeys. the israeli army spokesman said an estimated 50,000 gazans fled south on wednesday. heavy, close quarters fighting is continuing between israeli forces and hamas militants in the ruins of gaza city, with battles said to be nearing the al quds hospital. gunfire these are the scenes in the west bank. the palestinian authority says ten palestinians have been killed — and at least 20 wounded — during an israeli army raid on jenin refugee camp. israel's military said it was conducting counter—terrorism raids injenin, but gave no further details. more than 170 palestinians are reported to have been killed by israeli forces in the occupied west bank since the attack by hamas on israel on october 7. in the past few minutes, the palestinian group islamichhad has released video of hostages it claims to be holding in gaza, so let's go straight tojerusalem. let's speak to our diplomatic correspondent paul adams. paul, tell us more. this is the first because _ paul, tell us more. this is the first because we _ paul, tell us more. this is the first because we have - paul, tell us more. this is the first because we have had - paul, tell us more. this is the first because we have had of. paul, tell us more. this is the - first because we have had of israeli hostages for about ten days, matthew. we did see a still photo the other day of some type migrant workers are also being held in gaza, but this is the first video we have had for ten days. it shows two israeli hostages, one is a woman in her 70s, she is sitting in a wheelchair, she was inducted from a kibbutz on the 7th of october andy other is a teenage boy —— she was abducted. he was also abducted from the sink unity. in the video, just like the previous one, both speak to the camera. it is not clear if they are speaking or reading a script. both are very critical of israel's prime minister and netanyahu, but once again i emphasise we do not know whose words these are. there was also an accompanying statement from islamichhad, the second—largest armed faction in the gaza strip, thought to be holding an unknown number of hostages. that statement said that the group was prepared to release both hostages for what it called humanitarian and medical reasons, but only, it said, if appropriate measures were met. we have no idea what that actually means. a, have no idea what that actually means. �* ~ . have no idea what that actually means. �* . ., ., ~ have no idea what that actually means. a . ., ~ ., means. a clear caveat there. we also don't know — means. a clear caveat there. we also don't know there _ means. a clear caveat there. we also don't know there was _ means. a clear caveat there. we also don't know there was any _ means. a clear caveat there. we also don't know there was any sort - means. a clear caveat there. we also don't know there was any sort of - don't know there was any sort of coercion there, because this hostage video, but, paul, tell me about the exodus that you have been seeing and witnessing through the course of the last 2a hours, people leaving the north, those pictures and the accounts. north, those pictures and the accounte— accounts. so, as the israeli military has— accounts. so, as the israeli military has expanded - accounts. so, as the israeli military has expanded its i accounts. so, as the israeli - military has expanded its control over large parts of gaza city, and even the are now in control of significant parts of the city, it has allowed them to open corridors to get civilians out —— and they really are now in control. for the last two or three days, we have seen periods of time, three, four, five hours, in which palestinians are able to leave safely from the city of gaza, and we have seen more and more people moving each day. today, there were scenes of thousands, perhaps even tens of thousands, of people on the move, the largest exodus that we have seen since the early days of this crisis, and it does suggest that the israelis now are able to engineer a situation where they can continue to exert very considerable military force on hamas while also simultaneously allowing civilians to leave some of those contested areas. pauli allowing civilians to leave some of those contested areas. paul adams there in jerusalem, _ those contested areas. paul adams there in jerusalem, thanks - those contested areas. paul adams there in jerusalem, thanks very - there injerusalem, thanks very much. live now to washington and our state department correspondent barbara plett usher. barbara, we have been hearing new details from the white house, from joe biden, tell us more about that, because he wants a much longer humanitarian pause but has not been able to deliver it thus far.— able to deliver it thus far. that's ri . ht. able to deliver it thus far. that's right- before — able to deliver it thus far. that's right. before i _ able to deliver it thus far. that's right. before i go _ able to deliver it thus far. that's right. before i go to _ able to deliver it thus far. that's right. before i go to that, - able to deliver it thus far. that's right. before i go to that, i - able to deliver it thus far. that'sl right. before i go to that, i would say that the arrangement that paul was talking about has essentially been announced in a formalised way by the white house, which is that the israelis have agreed to four hour pauses, where they stop any military operations, over two safe passage corridors for people to exit northern gaza so it sounds like in practice that was happening, banality the white house has officially announced it and he said that the israelis will give civilians a three hour notice before the four hour pause begins. the white house is also that it hopes these kinds of localised pauses can be used ultimately to get more aid into the gaza strip and perhaps also to help with hostage release. now, the presidentjoe biden was asked today whether, to confirm reports he had asked the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu for a three day pause in order to facilitate hostage releases and he said, yes, actually, i asked for more than that, and he also was asked if frustrated with the israeli prime minister and he said, it is taking longer than i thought it would, which seems to be a mild way of saying yes, but it is also an indication that hostage negotiations continue despite the israeli military operation, and our broadcast partners in the us, cbs, have been talking about a high—level meeting in delhi right now between the head of american intelligence at the head of american intelligence at the head of israeli intelligence, the head of israeli intelligence, the qataris, negotiating for hamas, talking about hostage release. barbara plett usher there in washington, thanks very much, and apologies forjust the washington, thanks very much, and apologies for just the sound on washington, thanks very much, and apologies forjust the sound on that line towards the end of that interview. joining me now is colonel elad goren, the coordinator of government activities in the territories. thank you so much forjoining us here on bbc news. you said earlier this week the levels of humanitarian assistance being supplied to gaza are well above minimal levels required. are you serious? yes, of course i am _ required. are you serious? yes, of course i am serious. _ required. are you serious? yes, of course i am serious. thank- required. are you serious? yes, of course i am serious. thank you - required. are you serious? yes, of course i am serious. thank you forj course i am serious. thank you for having me. of course we are serious. this war has been forced on us by the terror organisation of hamas, and we are doing everything in our power in order to try and distinguish between the terrorists and the population, and this is why we asked the population to evacuate from the northern side of gaza strip to the southern side. assistance will be delivered. in to the southern side. assistance will be delivered.— to the southern side. assistance will be delivered. in terms of that assistance. _ will be delivered. in terms of that assistance, when _ will be delivered. in terms of that assistance, when you _ will be delivered. in terms of that assistance, when you have, - will be delivered. in terms of that assistance, when you have, and l will be delivered. in terms of that i assistance, when you have, and we heard it on the bbc only yesterday, a family of seven talking about in the last 2a hours, they simply had four pita breads between them, so you're saying is not true, when doctors say they are performing operations without anaesthetics, that's not true? when un chief talk about the wholly inadequate aid getting in to deal with the sea of need, that is not true? is that really what you are saying? what i am sa in: really what you are saying? what i am saying is _ really what you are saying? what i am saying is when _ really what you are saying? what i am saying is when hamas - really what you are saying? what i am saying is when hamas opened | really what you are saying? what i i am saying is when hamas opened the war against us, before we move —— maneuvered into gaza, we asked a high collation to move to the southern side of the strip. moreover, but i am saying is we facilitated the entrance of humanitarian convoys, hundreds of trucks, every day, entering gaza with food, with medical supplies, with food, with medical supplies, with medications. what i am saying is that we are doing three times a date and assessment, humanitarian assessment, with all the organisations, in order to track the humanitarian situation in gaza, so, yes, this is what we are saying, and we want to continue to engage with hamas, but in the meantime, we will try to assist as much as we can... but even the numbers, even the numbers don't support what you're saying stuff said earlier this week that sick hundred 65 aid trucks had entered gaza since the start of this war. —— 665. before this war, hundreds of trucks they were getting to the territory. yours 2635 trucks short of that number, even with the incredible increase in scale, before the bombing, before the need spiralled. you are that far short even now. spiralled. you are that far short even nova— even now. that is an important . uestion even now. that is an important question and — even now. that is an important question and i _ even now. that is an important question and i will— even now. that is an important question and i will be - even now. that is an important question and i will be happy . even now. that is an important question and i will be happy to | question and i will be happy to address it. first, we are providing water to gaza strip and a 20 million l every day, and just remember 90% of the water in gaza are still produced, so there is enough water in gaza. regarding the trucks, yesterday, 96 trucks out in, and today approximately the same number... today approximately the same number- - -_ today approximately the same number... ., . . �* , number... you heard what i've 'ust had about the fi number... you heard what i've 'ust had about the total i number... you heard what i've 'ust had about the total number, k number... you heard what i've just had about the total number, you i number... you heard what i've just l had about the total number, you are way, way short, and those were numbers before the spiralling need. there is a mammoth gap in terms of humanitarian aid, so when you say that there is no shortage, you are just simply not reflecting the realities on the ground, are you? what i am saying is we are willing to increase the number of trucks, we are fully coordinated with the un and with the egyptians, with the support of the united states, and if there is a need to increase the trucks, will increase it. this is a matter of logistics and delivery... sorry, they have been clamouring for an increase for weeks now, we are into the second month of this war, and the un agencies have been as one, talking about it. is the truth here, when you say there is no shortage, we are involved in a war here, also an information war, and thatis here, also an information war, and that is why you're saying the things that is why you're saying the things that you are saying? first that is why you're saying the things that you are saying?— that you are saying? first is a war and war has _ that you are saying? first is a war and war has consequences. - that you are saying? first is a war and war has consequences. theyl and war has consequences. they opened the war against the state of israel. civilians were... while saying this, we are trying to insist as much as we can the humanitarian convoy will increase the number of trucks, it is a matter of, if there is a request by the un agencies, we will implement it. there's no problem from our side. let will implement it. there's no problem from our side. let me turn to what is happening _ problem from our side. let me turn to what is happening in _ problem from our side. let me turn to what is happening in the - problem from our side. let me turn to what is happening in the west i to what is happening in the west bank, because you oversee that as well. in terms of the amount of palestinians now killed since the october the 7th attacks, it's around 170 palestinians. how worried argue i70 palestinians. how worried argue about what you are seeing there developing an increasingly developing an increasingly developing —— how worried are you? unfortunately, they're notjust unfortunately, they�* re not just terrorists unfortunately, they're notjust terrorists in gaza... in there, the terrorists in gaza... in there, the terror is developing especially in the north. we are conducting, and today we've lamented and operation in janine, today we've lamented and operation injanine, and i hope the palestinian authority will take responsibility —— jenin. will decrease... if they do so, we will do it. ., . ., do it. for the five children have been killed _ do it. for the five children have been killed in _ do it. for the five children have been killed in the _ do it. for the five children have been killed in the west - do it. for the five children have been killed in the west bank i do it. for the five children have i been killed in the west bank since october the 7th, only yesterday we were watching footage of a palestinian man shot with an israeli soldier standing by and not intervening —— 45 children. what do you say to the central concern that settlers are simply taking advantage of what has happened on october the 7th and forcing out palestinians from areas in the west bank? law and order is one — from areas in the west bank? law and order is one of — from areas in the west bank? law and order is one of our _ from areas in the west bank? law and order is one of our missions. - from areas in the west bank? law and order is one of our missions. we - order is one of our missions. we have no intention to harm children. i want you to remember, when you are describing a child, he is 17 years old, has a gun and issued against ourforces. i7 old, has a gun and issued against ourforces. 17 years old, has a gun and issued against our forces. 17 years old, old, has a gun and issued against ourforces. 17 years old, child, as you say, shooting against our forces, so we will imitate a threat. final question. —— eliminate a threat. final question. -- eliminate a threat. ., . , threat. your ob'ectives, even if you achieve your — threat. your objectives, even if you achieve your military _ threat. your objectives, even if you achieve your military objectives, i achieve your military objectives, which is to destroy hamas, and there are many people who think that is going to be very, very tough to actually do, who will actually run gaza afterwards? you had that warning from antony blinken only yesterday that israel cannot reoccupy. yesterday that israel cannot reoccuoy-— yesterday that israel cannot reoccu-. , , ., , reoccupy. the idf is now focused in the war, reoccupy. the idf is now focused in the war. and _ reoccupy. the idf is now focused in the war, and winning _ reoccupy. the idf is now focused in the war, and winning hamas. i reoccupy. the idf is now focused in the war, and winning hamas. this | reoccupy. the idf is now focused in | the war, and winning hamas. this is what we are doing and this is what we are focusing in, not the day after and not the day before, just what is in front of us. do after and not the day before, 'ust what is in front of us.i after and not the day before, 'ust what is in front of us. do you know it happens — what is in front of us. do you know it happens the _ what is in front of us. do you know it happens the day _ what is in front of us. do you know it happens the day after? - what is in front of us. do you know it happens the day after? i - what is in front of us. do you know it happens the day after? i know . what is in front of us. do you know i it happens the day after? i know you are not telling me, but do you know? i do not know, boa what i know is we have a mission to defeat hamas, illuminate them and bring back our people back home. this is our main focus —— eliminate them. bud people back home. this is our main focus -- eliminate them.— focus -- eliminate them. and you think this is _ focus -- eliminate them. and you think this is realistically _ think this is realistically possible?— think this is realistically hossible? , , , ., ~ possible? yes, this is what we think and this is what _ possible? yes, this is what we think and this is what we _ possible? yes, this is what we think and this is what we are _ and this is what we are conducting, and this is what we are conducting, and i hope that we will see a better future in this region. we and i hope that we will see a better future in this region.— future in this region. we have to leave it there, _ future in this region. we have to leave it there, but _ future in this region. we have to leave it there, but thanks i future in this region. we have to leave it there, but thanks for i leave it there, but thanks for joining us here on bbc news. thanks for your time. joining us here on bbc news. thanks for your time-— around the world and across the uk, this is bbc news. let's look at some other stories making news. a 33—year—old man has been found guilty of murdering schoolteacher ashling murphy in ireland last year. the central criminal court in dublin found jozef puska fatally assaulted ms murphy while she was exercising on a canal path in tullamore. puska was found guilty — following three weeks of evidence. the nhs waiting list in england has hit a record high as new figures show that more than a million patients are on more than one waiting list. the overall waiting list hit a new high of 7.7 million at the end of september. the overall waiting list is at its highest point since records began in august 2007. a 14—year—old boy has appeared in court charged with murder in leeds, after a teenager was fatally stabbed near a school in the city. 15—year—old alfie lewis was stabbed near st margaret's primary school on tuesday. the former student later died in hospital. the charged boy has been remanded in custody. you're live with bbc news. let's get more on the israel gaza war, and these are some of the latest pictures we are getting here at the bbc, and you can see those huge explosions and a number of them. it comes as the us saying israel will begin to implement four hour military pauses in areas of northern gaza each day to allow civilians to flee. the white house spokesmanjo

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