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Transcripts For BBCNEWS Verified 20240702



chaos. welcome to the terrified life. aid agencies say they are being forced to halt deliveries into gaza because of a lack of fuel. the un's biggest agency and gaza says is no longer able to bring in or distribute aid. the un world food programme says gazais the un world food programme says gaza is receiving just 10% of the daily food supplies it needs. israel's war cabinet has approved letting fuel lorries into gaza to help meet the needs of un agencies. it said the decision came after a request from the us communications are also down in the territory for a second day because there is no energy to power the network. a funeral has been held for a second woman held hostage by hamas. her body was found by israeli troops in building your gaza's biggest hospital. she was a 19—year—old soldier. hamas said she died in an israeli air strike. on thursday, the military also discovered the body of a 65—year—old. the israeli prime minister said that hamas leaders left at the largest hospital and gaza shortly before it was raided by the army. speaking to cbs news benjamin netanyahu said they found a hamas command centre at the site but has not yet provided conclusive evidence that appeals admitted that israel's efforts to minimise civilian casualties were not successful. adopt a former senior idf commander at the head of of gaza's hospitals but we start the south with this report. nowhere feels safe, even in southern gaza. the latest israeli strikes destroying homes here. this was the house of this family who say relatives who had fled from gaza city were among those killed in this rubble. translation: every second of every minute, there is a massacre. - what humanitarian ceasefires? the displaced from gaza, women and children, are under this home. they were our relatives. they were displaced to escape the massacres and war in gaza. compounding the misery, there is now a total blackout of phones and the internet, said to be caused by the lack of fuel. israel hasn't been allowing fuel to enter gaza, arguing it could be stolen by hamas. the un's biggest agency in the strip says it can no longer distribute any aid. fuel is life, and fuel has been used in gaza as a weapon of war. what we need is the following. the restoration of the communications network so that we are able to simply work the phones and coordinate the aid delivery. we need fuel that is unconditional, not only for us to bring the aid that is coming via egypt but also to use it for humanitarian purposes. now israel's army says it has uncovered a tunnel gaza's main hospital, but so far it hasn't found the vast underground hamas command centre it says was here. instead, soldiers showed new piles of weapons two days into their rate. we can't independently verify this footage. the military also says it found the body of an israeli hostage in a house near al—shifa hospital. the military also said it found the body of an israeli hostage in a house near al—shifa hospital. and that of the young soldier. today her grieving family led her to rest. hamas has had a corporal was killed in an israeli bombing. it had been thought more hostages would be found. we had strong indications that they were held in the al—shifa hospital, which is one of the reasons we enter the hospital. if they were, they were taken out. we had intelligence about the hostages. israel says it is now closed to dismantling the hamas military system in the north of gaza, and will soon do the same in parts of the south. this is where most of the territory's population had previously been told to take refuge, and as word spreads, the people say they don't know where to turn. let's go straight to our correspondent injerusalem. the israeli war cabinet announcing that some fuel will be let in to gaza. tell us about that. it some fuel will be let in to gaza. tell us about that.— some fuel will be let in to gaza. tell us about that. it seems that this decision _ tell us about that. it seems that this decision from _ tell us about that. it seems that this decision from the _ tell us about that. it seems that this decision from the israeli - tell us about that. it seems that| this decision from the israeli war cabinet was made after conversations with under pressure from the americans and the announcement from the israeli war cabinet today is that every day, two trucks if you will be allowed into gaza. we are told that would be about 60,000 litres. previously, the united nations have said they need about 160,000 litres to fulfil all their duties, to power their operations. so we will have to see whether that makes a difference for their mother they have indicated today that even a little amount of fuel will allow them to get things going again. israel says that there is no way it should fall into the hands of hamas because some domestically here in israel have criticised the situation. israel says this will have a very minimal impact and it will be basically so that water can be desalinated. also they can do with the sewage which we know as a real problem and gaza at the moment. the extent to which the world health organization among others are warning of a real risk of disease spreading. they say that is happening already and they have gone as far as to say if people are not fighting they could be killed by disease. �* . ., ,~ fighting they could be killed by disease. �* . ., ., ~ disease. ben'amin netanyahu talking to cbs, disease. benjamin netanyahu talking to css, talked _ disease. benjamin netanyahu talking to cbs, talked about _ disease. benjamin netanyahu talking to cbs, talked about the _ disease. benjamin netanyahu talking to cbs, talked about the hospital, i to cbs, talked about the hospital, al—shifa hospital, the hostages, the war, more generally. tell us more about what he said and is the thought that actually they will eventually use the same military tactics in the south as they are in the north?— tactics in the south as they are in the north? ., ., ., ., the north? yeah, quite a far ranging interview with _ the north? yeah, quite a far ranging interview with the _ the north? yeah, quite a far ranging interview with the american - the north? yeah, quite a far ranging interview with the american network cbs. so interview with the american network cbs. 50 it interview with the american network cbs. so it is an american audience that prime minister netanyahu was talking to it within the ten minutes that he was speaking they covered quite a lot of ground. first of all, on al—shifa, he sought to justify the military operation around gaza's biggest hospital saying the intelligence they have received was that hostages had been kept there. he said the reality was that when the forces arrived and went into the it seemed that the hostages had been taken away. he was asked about what happens next and he was saying, you know, is there a real danger here that hatred has been bred, the number of palestinian casualties, the number of palestinians who have been killed over the past six weeks, prime minister netanyahu says this is an operation that israel has to carry out. cannot veer away from that. so he was certainly trying to justify the actions of the past six weeks but, interestingly, he did say in terms of reducing and minimising casualties that has not been something that the israelis had been able to do. . , . . ~ able to do. thanks very much. thank ou. that is the statementjust released by hamas's armed wing saint hostages were not held in hospitals and were taken into care centres for treatment. let's talk now to our guest who is the founder of the israel defence and security a former deputy commander of the israel defence forces gaza's division. thank you for being here in the programme. let us start with the humanitarian situation. you have the un begging, that was the quote, begging forfuel. the israeli un begging, that was the quote, begging for fuel. the israeli war cabinet allowing two lorries and now a day. if two lorries, why not more? well, you know, we are very concerned with fuel going to hamas, to generate all the underground actions that are using it. we know that hamas threatens society, even kills them, takes everything from them, including the food. we have no real way to really control this in the south so this is a concern and this is why we are very careful. we left a lot of food, water medicine going. fuel is a problem. it serves hamas for war. i'd make sure, but you have made arrangements for two lorries so you could make arrangement for more. you control most of the north now. if there is a will, there is a way, isn't there? were not controlling the south. i said the north. it is _ were not controlling the south. i said the north. it is not - were not controlling the south. i said the north. it is not about i were not controlling the south. i | said the north. it is not about the north. said the north. it is not about the north- we — said the north. it is not about the north- we are _ said the north. it is not about the north. we are not— said the north. it is not about the north. we are not talking - said the north. it is not about the north. we are not talking about l said the north. it is not about the l north. we are not talking about the north. we are not talking about the north. talking about the south. and this is going to the south. we controlling this area. this is why we have a lot of concerns about how this humanitarian aid is going on. and also, at the end of the day, i don't understand why egypt is not opening the border and letting people who want to go out go out. this is the only place in the world where you have a humanitarian crisis, refugees and locked in a war zone. it is unprecedented.- crisis, refugees and locked in a war zone. it is unprecedented. sure, but it is israel that _ zone. it is unprecedented. sure, but it is israel that is _ zone. it is unprecedented. sure, but it is israel that is locking _ zone. it is unprecedented. sure, but it is israel that is locking them - it is israel that is locking them in. it was israel that announced right at the start that there would be a siege with nothing letting out. gaza has a common border with egypt. egypt is locking them. egypt is not letting them go out. in the world is not doing anything about that nobody is asking the palestinians what they want. , . . , is asking the palestinians what they want. , . ., , ., �* ., ., want. they certainly don't want to be, they certainly _ want. they certainly don't want to be, they certainly have _ want. they certainly don't want to be, they certainly have said - want. they certainly don't want to be, they certainly have said that l be, they certainly have said that they don't want to be pushed out of gaza into egypt. egypt certainly doesn't want that but they do not want to be pushed out of gaza. here is my assessment. _ want to be pushed out of gaza. here is my assessment. they _ want to be pushed out of gaza. haze: is my assessment. they are going want to be pushed out of gaza. hee is my assessment. they are going to the egyptian border in an uncontrolled way and they're going out in an uncontrolled way. this happened in the past, it might happened in the past, it might happen again when israel starts operating in the south because, again, nobody is asking them, nobody is caring about them. people want them locked in a war zone. this is not a safe environment for anybody. 12 million ukrainians left ukraine because they did not want to be in a war zone. because they did not want to be in a warzone. nobody because they did not want to be in a war zone. nobody stopped them and nobody locked the border and prevented them from going out. the same in syria. why is this happening in gaza? 50 same in syria. why is this happening in gaza? ,, �* same in syria. why is this happening in gaza? _, �* , same in syria. why is this happening ingaza? �* , , in gaza? so you're saying this is nothin: in gaza? so you're saying this is nothing to _ in gaza? so you're saying this is nothing to do — in gaza? so you're saying this is nothing to do with _ in gaza? so you're saying this is nothing to do with his _ in gaza? so you're saying this is nothing to do with his wheel. i in gaza? so you're saying this is| nothing to do with his wheel. me in gaza? so you're saying this is - nothing to do with his wheel. me ask what is happening at the al—shifa hospital. we sell those pictures released by the idf overnight. what is your view on what was actually found? ,, z, is your view on what was actually found? .: :, , , is your view on what was actually found? :, , , , :, found? so, actually, “ust before, i talk to found? so, actually, “ust before, i talkto — found? so, actually, “ust before, i talkto «h found? so, actually, “ust before, i talk to one of the — found? so, actually, just before, i talk to one of the division - talk to one of the division commanders in charge of the operation on al—shifa. they encountered more than 50 terrorists. we saw huge amounts of munition. and then, going in, we found infrastructure under a car full of explosives, inside the hospital, in the mri section. and now the idf is studying the underground infrastructure. it takes time. they said a robot inside, 15 metres underground until it encountered a door. a door that block the way. and now, really, opening all these doors inside and the aeds that were inside and all of that will take time but we did find underground infrastructure.— we did find underground infrastructure. z, :, z, infrastructure. you say that. you sa that. infrastructure. you say that. you say that. we've _ infrastructure. you say that. you say that. we've seen _ infrastructure. you say that. you say that. we've seen the - infrastructure. you say that. you | say that. we've seen the pictures and the extent of certainly the arms and the extent of certainly the arms and what the idf have shown. some are from the idf said a couple of days ago that al—shifa may be the beating heart of the whole hamas organisation. certainly from the pictures released so far it doesn't look like that.— pictures released so far it doesn't look like that. doesn't like that on the ground — look like that. doesn't like that on the ground and — look like that. doesn't like that on the ground and we _ look like that. doesn't like that on the ground and we are _ look like that. doesn't like that on the ground and we are finding - look like that. doesn't like that on | the ground and we are finding huge amounts of weapons inside al—shifa and we've encountered dozens of terrorists defending al—shifa and iuds and al—shifa is a very big... the prime minister himself said there was no firefight at al—shifa so in terms of what you are describing... i so in terms of what you are describing. . ._ so in terms of what you are describing... i want to tell you what we are — describing... i want to tell you what we are seeing _ describing... i want to tell you what we are seeing inside, - describing... i want to tell you | what we are seeing inside, 0k. describing... i want to tell you - what we are seeing inside, ok. i'm tellin: what we are seeing inside, ok. i'm telling you — what we are seeing inside, ok. i'm telling you what the prime minister said. i telling you what the prime minister said. z, ~ z, :z, :, :, said. i talked to the commander on the ground- — said. i talked to the commander on the ground- we _ said. i talked to the commander on the ground. we saw _ said. i talked to the commander on the ground. we saw many, - said. i talked to the commander on the ground. we saw many, many i the ground. we saw many, many weapons thrown on the ground, basically what is happening inside al—shifa is that, because he managed to surround it, because we are going in, the terrorists i thrown the equipment on the ground. and masquerading. this is what they are doing. masquerading in trying to put themselves as regular citizens. this is what we are seeing. find themselves as regular citizens. this is what we are seeing.— themselves as regular citizens. this is what we are seeing. and i suppose that is what — is what we are seeing. and i suppose that is what benjamin _ is what we are seeing. and i suppose that is what benjamin netanyahu - is what we are seeing. and i suppose j that is what benjamin netanyahu was reflecting on many said in that interview that the israel forces had not been successful in minimising civilian casualties. he is blaming hamas but don't you have to take responsibility for what you are doing. you have focused on al—shifa but hamas is gone. you are attacking areas in the north but killing thousands of people. you have to take responsibility for what you are doing, don't you? i am take responsibility for what you are doing. don't you?— take responsibility for what you are doing, don't you? i am sorry to hear these kind of— doing, don't you? i am sorry to hear these kind of comments _ doing, don't you? i am sorry to hear these kind of comments when - doing, don't you? i am sorry to hearl these kind of comments when people have been burned alive, capacitated. ms has to take responsibility for that. i am simply asking about what you are doing in response. we that. i am simply asking about what you are doing in response.— you are doing in response. we need to destroy hamas _ you are doing in response. we need to destroy hamas and _ you are doing in response. we need to destroy hamas and there - you are doing in response. we need to destroy hamas and there is - you are doing in response. we need to destroy hamas and there is only| to destroy hamas and there is only one way to destroy hamas. we need to do it with an incursion. we need to have a take over the gaza strip. we told the people to go south. hamas is stopping people from going south. we are really trying the best we can. z, w we are really trying the best we can. z, a , z, , we are really trying the best we can. z, , z, , z :, can. two quick questions, then. what ro ortion can. two quick questions, then. what proportion of— can. two quick questions, then. what proportion of hamas _ can. two quick questions, then. what proportion of hamas have _ can. two quick questions, then. what proportion of hamas have you - proportion of hamas have you destroyed so far? nearly six weeks in. i destroyed so far? nearly six weeks in. z, ,z, , destroyed so far? nearly six weeks in. z, :_ :, destroyed so far? nearly six weeks in. z, :, :, z, ::f destroyed so far? nearly six weeks in. :, :, :, z, in :, in. i would say that around 4096 of those in the _ in. i would say that around 4096 of those in the north _ in. i would say that around 4096 of those in the north engaged - in. i would say that around 4096 of those in the north engaged in - those in the north engaged in neighbourhoods in the north. we do not have complete control. we are engaged in fierce combating in some of the neighbourhoods of the north but eventually we will destroy hamas in the north and then we will go south. .: , z, in the north and then we will go south. z,z , :, ,z, in the north and then we will go south. , :, :,, south. tell me exactly that point as a final question. _ south. tell me exactly that point as a final question. we've _ south. tell me exactly that point as a final question. we've seen - south. tell me exactly that point as a final question. we've seen the . a final question. we've seen the tactics in the north. is that the plan in the south as well where the majority of people have now fled to? so we are trying to put the people on the shore near rafah. this is the area where it is a pretty open area. that is the best we can do, send them there. again, we think that the serious solution is opening the egyptian border at least momentarily, letting people out. there they can get humanitarian aid, they can get medicine, they can get feel. ,,z, z,

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