what could be the most important battle in decades heating up on capitol hill, senate democrats today introducing s-1, also known as the for the people act. the sweeping election reform and voting rights package was passed by the house earlier this month and would stop republican efforts to limit access to voting around the country. the ultimate fate of the bill is far from clear as democrats debate whether they can or should change or pass the landmark reforms. let's discuss now democratic senator amy klobuchar. so good to see you, senator, thank you for appearing. >> thank you for having officer dunn on. i watched that whole interview. it was so moving when he said, i didn't bring race into this. they did. ist just doing my job. and then to follow with the other people that shouldn't be forgotten, the victims in atlanta. i felt like watching your whole show tonight. that's what it was about. so our bill is about not forgetting our democracy. so go ahead. >> thank you so much for saying that. i really appreciate it. there have been so many people who have brought poignant words and made us think tonight and who inspired us to be better people. you chaired the senate rules committee that will hold a hearing on the bill next week. and listen, the stakes couldn't be any higher. republicans are trying to suppress the vote all over the country. how are you going to get this bill passed? that's the central question. >> let's start with the good. the good is that for the first time, thanks to those incredible senators from georgia, warnock and ossoff, we have the gavel. i have the gavel. jeff merkley, the author of the bill is on the committee. we have two new senators on there, padilla and ossoff, and we're going get this bill through the committee. we're going have the first hearing ever in the senate. it has only been in the house. they passed it in the house of representatives and then we bring it to the floor. and my arguments, for passing it, and they will be strong ones, are one, there are multiple provisions in this bill, nine of them that are bipartisan. we have republican governors who have embraced vote by mail. republicans of state have embraced early registration to vote. this thing, americans are behind it. the biggest thing we have done, getting to the light at the end of the tunnel, getting through this pandemic. that bill as well. it seems like the only republican who's didn't like it worked in the congress. because their constituents liked it. and we were not going to be stopped. we used a strange way of doing it which was reconciliation. we had no other choice. joe biden wasn't going wait six months to get it done. i would make the same argument for this bill. we get it to the floor. we see what support we get. and then yes, for this and a whole number of other things, minimum wage which has to be increased. many, many other issues. i believe we should get rid of the filibuster. not everyone agrees with me but i think the time has come. you can't let an archaic old jim crow era procedure get in the way of the change that the american people voted for. >> listen, we've talked about on we have talked about on this program about the hundreds of bills out there. many trying to dismantle voting rights in states. if you can't pass, i know you said you'll do it. but if you can't pass the senate bill 1 and the dems won't back changes, so what is plan b? what are democrats going to do if you can't get this passed? >> well, remember, senator manchin a few weekends ago talked about this standing filibuster and how that is one way. there are many ways to get there. >> president joe biden spoke about it last night in an interview as well. sorry to interrupt. go on. >> exactly. so there are many ways to get there. and let's be clear about this. political parties when they lose an election, they're supposed to examine their policies. figure out how to reach out to more voters. right now the republican party is doubling down on their positions, cpac as exhibit a. and then they've said, maybe we'll just disenfranchise voters introducing over 250 bills in legislatures across the country in over 40 states to basically make it so less people vote. because they don't want the same people to vote who brought in joe biden to victory. that is not democracy. so we've got such a strong case going into this. and i'm just not going to concede that we can't get this done one way or the other, either getting support because of what i mentioned, all the bipartisan proposals, or making some proceed churl changes to get it done. we just can't -- >> quick answer for me if you will. are you worried about this whole scorched earth thing that mitch mcconnell is promising if you try to get rid of the filibuster? >> you know, they threatened that on the last bill and yet there were so many proposals they supported including the restaurant act. people use this rhetoric. i don't really care. the constituents that we have, they're at home. they're the ones that are bouncing their toddlers on their knees and their laptops on their desk, teaching their first graders how to use a mute button, trying to hold down due and they're out of a job because of the pandemic. that's why we had the get the pandemic bill done. we must do something to save our democracy. if no one ever told you that, it has to be the words of officer done dunn, who made it very clear after he was pillored with poles and called the "n" word 15 times and said to his friend, "is this america?" so our reply to that question is this bill. this is about everyone having the right to vote. the things school kids say, one nation under god. and indivisible with liberty and justice for all. this is the bill. >> thank you, senator. i appreciate your time, and i appreciate your kind words. we'll see you soon. >> okay. >> it is unclear tonight if the georgia man suspected of killing eight people at three spas in georgia will be charged with hate crimes. he's already charged with eight count of murder. police officers saying they don't know yet the motive in this case but also saying that when he was apprehended, they believe he was on his way to florida to possibly carry out more shootings. bringing in now ryan young who has been covering this for us since the very beginning. he is in atlanta. this suspect has been charged with murder. six of the eight victims were asian women. what is the latest on the investigation? the suspect's motives? what do you know? >> yeah. think about where we were last night at this time. we had so many questions about this and i still think tonight, there are more investigative parts that we have to figure out. we do know the sheriff's department has been pointing to maybe a sex addiction that this suspect had, robert long. they're saying because of the sex addiction, maybe he then wanted to come to places and open fire because he was trying to avoid that. that was one of the things so puzzling when we heard that come out. i want to point this out. we've been talking about the suspect. you see the names here. someone brought this by, sort of highlighting some of the people who were killed, and that's what the focus probably should be on, right? the names -- we don't obviously have the faces yet, but we've seen atlanta pouring out in terms of putting flowers here at one of the sites. we're just across the street where three other women were killed. this has been a community that has been struggling with this. people really upentity the fact this man would commit this violence in metro atlanta. listen to one of the 911 calls as the calls came in. >> do you have a description of him, ma'am? is it a male or female? >> they have a gun, a real gun. >> they have a gun, you said? >> some guy came in and took the gun. so everybody heard the gunshots. and some ladies got hurt, i think. everybody's scared so they're hiding. >> don, when you think about this, the family members of robert long actually came forward to law enforcement to provide them with that information, actually gave them that tracking information. we were wondering last night thou they were able to catch him on the road on the way to florida. we now realize it was his parents who gave that information so they could track him and be ready for him as he went into a different county. were able to perform that pit maneuver. we know his first court appearance will be tomorrow. hopefully we may learn some new information. he was talking with investigators, not sure at this point if that still continues. one thing you will also notice from that mug shot, he seems to be wearing a vest. we know he was on suicide watch at some point. so that's something they're continuing to watch over the next 24 hours. but again, as you look here, there have been so many people lining up over the last few hours, don. some people coming here to shed tears, upset about the violence that's happened in this community. it's really kind of made this area pause in terms of what's happened over the last 24 hours. don? >> ryan young covering the story for news atlanta. ryan, we appreciate your reporting. thank you so much. i want to bring in chris sweat kerr and asha ran ggasa. good evening. thank you for joining us. chris, i'll start with you. what is the fbi doing right now to determine whether this was a hate crime? >> well, working the sheriff's bureau of investigation, the police departments and the sheriff's departments, i'm sure they're looking at electronic media at this point if they haven't reviewed it already, any social media, any mobile phone, any laptop, any social postings this person made. and i did have a chance to talk to someone very high level in the investigation. it does look like this individual was deeply disturbed, that he's confessed already. his family has provided information about him. he was basically targeting the business. not necessarily the ethnicity. although it is still an open question and there is more evidence to review. >> asha, we're learning that the suspect was in sex addiction rehab just last year. law enforcement sources are telling cnn he told them he thought about killing himself but decided to help others. that's a quote from him, by targeting the spas instead. look, if this is confirmed, couldn't he still be prosecuted with a hate crime for targeting women? >> yes, don. and i think this is an important point, that race is definitely a basis for a hate crime, but in 2009, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation and disability were all added to the federal hate crimes statute. so if there is a motivation for any of those factors, those could still constitute a hate crime and be a basis for a federal jurisdiction. this brings to the floor the idea of intersectioniality. this is the idea that someone can belong to two different groups that perhaps the law treats as distinct categories. but there is a specific harm when a person actually embodies both of them. that you might miss if you're focusing on these separate categories. so in this case, asian women. if we're only focusing on race or only focusing on gender, we might miss some of the specific harms that may accrue to a person that embodies this particular category. and i think that what we are seeing is some of the come complexity involved in that particular idea. >> so asha, listen, experts told cnn that asian women are uniquely vulnerable to violence. talk to me about that, please. >> yeah, well, this is exactly what i'm talking about, that there can be particular ideas, for example, a sexualization that is also intertwined with race, that asian women tend to deal with. >> fetishizing. >> this person came, and he didn't target strip clubs, for example. he really came to a particular type of business. time of business. was that intentional? we don't know. but it does overlap with a specific ethnic community and it does overlap with women who work there. so i think that we need to think about the ways that particular communities who embody different bases of gender, racially motivated violence can but uniquely targeted in these kinds of situations. >> yeah. chris, a couple things here. the "new york times" is reporting that organizations that track hate groups are warning about a phenomenon called male supremacy terrorism, driven by aggravated male entitlement and a desire to preserve traditional gender roles. could that be something that we're seeing with this shooting? >> hard to say, don. honestly, there are times when someone just goes off. they're mentally imbalanced. they have inner demons. we've seen that time and time and time again. and i'm not discounting the potential for a motive here as a hate crime. i'm just saying there are times when people just go off. there are many deeply disturbed individuals out there, and the internet isn't helpful. the political rhetoric isn't helpful. there are a lot of things. this is the proverbial lone wolf that we're always talking about. it only takes one or two things as the final thing to set them off. >> i want you to talk about that. i just realized, i'm not wearing my glasses or my contacts. i said aggravated male entitlement. aggrieved male entitlement. male supremacy terrorism given by aggrieved male entitlement and desire to preserve traditional gender roles. what do you think of that? >> yeah, well, this is an ideology, right? i think that there are analysts that have kind of watched the evolution of this. this was sort of in cell group. i think it is true that most of these are lone wolf actors. this isn't an portion has some kind of leadership or structure. but it is based on this idea an attack on masculinity, and there is a lot in the dark web, in parts of the internet groups that come together around a sense of loss about particular aspects of their masculinity. and it has driven other kinds of violence. we've seen this in some of the shootings that have happened in the past as this being a motivation. so, you know, it's hard to actually track this because it is not organized and it can be something that someone gets radicalized into just on their own on the internet. but it gets to this idea of gender-based violence, i think. >> i'm told we're having a bit of a break-up problem with your picture there but we can hear you clearly. chris, i want to ask but the nypd deploying counterterrorism forces to protect prominent asian communities in the wake of this attack. are you concerned about copycats, chris? >> always. and i have read up on this. there has been a spike in new york city and about 16 cities across the u.s. in asian hate crimes. although they're only about 4% of overall hate crimes, the past year it's been a 150% increase. the nypd is always on top of their game. they have a great intel unit and they're being proactive. and i applaud them for that. >> police, chris, arrested a man from texas outside vice president kamala harris' official residence, and a d.c. police department shows he had an ar-15 semiautomatic rifle, 150 rounds of ammunition, 5:30-round magazines. no one is living there now but what kind of alarm bells is this going to set off in d.c.? >> that's a very serious incident. they apparently got a tip from i believe it was texas on that and they were able, i'm sure there are some pretty frenetic investigations behind the scenes. because they were able to accost this individual near the residence. so yeah, this is a very serious incident. the secret service picked this person up. they interrogated him and they'll do the same thing with his media, his electronic media and figure out what he is all about. is he alone or is he part of a group? are there others involved? i would not discount one bit the seriousness of this incident. when someone shows up that armed to the teeth. >> yeah, wow. that's a lot of ammo. thank you so much, chris. thank you, asha. a perfect picture now that we're done, asha. thank you so much. we'll see you guys soon. even after we learned about shootings in georgia last night, the former president was still using an anti-asian rhetoric or term, blaming covid on china. how do we fight the hate that has pointsed so much of america, hate that endangers all of us? when we started our business we were paying an arm and a leg for postage. i remember setting up shipstation. one or two clicks and everything was up and running. i was printing out labels and saving money. shipstation saves us so much time. it makes it really easy and seamless. pick an order, print everything you need, slap the label onto the box, and it's ready to go. our costs for shipping were cut in half. just like that. shipstation. the #1 choice of online sellers. go to shipstation.com/now and get 2 months free. many asian-americans have been living in fear since the outbreak of the covid pandemic a year ago. now six asian women are killed in atlanta. one group that tracks hate crimes against asian americans says that the incidents are spiking. nearly 3800 complaints of violence and harassment over the last 12 months. and many believe what the former president trump aggravated the situation by constantly blaming china for the pandemic and the downturn in america's economy, using loaded terms like the china virus. he did it again last night. >> we were the envy of the world. and then when we got hit by as i call it, the china virus, covid, it obviously went down along with every other economy. >> i want to bring in our new york congresswoman grace ming. last year she sponsored a resolution condemning hate violence against asian americans that passed in the house. but 164 republicans voted it down. representative ming, thank you so much. i appreciate you joining us this evening. it's a very important topic. so let's discuss. that was just last night. shortly before we learned of the shootings in atlanta. is there any surprise that hate crimes against asian americans have spiked? >> not at all. and don, thank you for having me, and thank you for covering this important issue. and of course our condolences continue to go out to the people of georgia and the families of the victims. and let's be clear. you know, hate crimes and hate incidents against asian americans are not a new phenomenon. however, when we look at the numbers and how the incidents have skyrocketed in the last 12 or 13 months or so, we absolutely lay this at the feet of the former president and the republican party. this president who had a wide global platform continued up until yesterday to use incendiary words like "chinese virus" and "kung flu." when we tried to pass a symbolic resolution for congress to stand united to condemn bigotry toward asian-americans, 164 republicans would not even vote for that. >> that's what i want to talk to you about. again, i want to make it clear to our audience, in september, the house passed a resolution that you sponsored that denounces anti-asian hate. and as you just said, 164 republicans voted against this measure, calling it -- and i quote here -- woke culture on steroids and accusing democrats of just trying to rebuke president trump months before the election. about tell me about this measure and what this mesh addresses. >> you know we wrote this legislation early on in the pandemic. we wanted the asian-american culture to know that any sort of racism and bigotry was not acceptable. we put the resolution out. i didn't even put the president's name in the language of the resolution. unfortunately, we had leaders like kevin mccarthy who said this wasn't on the minds and was not being discussed at kitchen tables around america. so i want to ask him if these issues are indeed being discussed today after what we saw in atlanta, and after over 3,800 incidents across this country during the past year. >> and representative, just to add to your case, the case that you're making, in case anyone is not familiar with the racism asian-americans have