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i'm kaitlan collins, and this is the source. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> it is becoming clearer by the day what a second term for donald trump would center around. revenge, or as he often puts it retribution. he spelling it out clearly for us on camera, warning that it's his political opponents he says, who are the most dangerous threat facing the united states today. not china, or russia, or north korea, his opponents. for someone who is well used similar language to authoritarians in fascists, this weekend in new hampshire, trump took things a step further. >> we will root out the communists, marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country, a threat from outside forces is far less sinister, dangerous, and grave than the threat for from within. >> you can see there, trump appears to be reading from the prompter, not ad libbing those remarks where he vowed to root out his political opponents like vermin, he also posted the same language on social media, making it clear he meant it. the biden campaign says the former president and potentially biden's opponent in 2024 is parotting the autocratic language of adolf hitler and benito miscellany. i should note that hitler's biographer once quoted the nazi dictator is saying. should i not also have the right to illuminate millions of an inferior race that multiplies like vermin? one person who is not condemning trump's words, the chairwoman of the republican party. >> i'm not going to talk about candidate that will contest a primary. >> i will not comment on candidates in their campaign messaging. >> i should note, trump's campaign is pushing back on these comparisons to hitler and mussolini, doubling down saying that those remarks, those who tried to make that ridiculous assertation are clearly snowflakes grasping for anything, their entire existence will be crushed when president trump returned to the white house. a spokesperson who put that statement out later clarified and said that he meant to say, quote, sad, miserable existence, instead of their entire existence. this isn't just language, by the way. there's been a ton of reporting about glands that are underway for a second trump term, including from the new york times, which says tonight that trump is plotting mass detention and the deportation of undocumented immigrants should he regain power. trump promised last week to conduct, quote, the largest domestic deportation operation in american history. and not long ago, he said that undocumented immigrants were poisoning the blood of the country. >> it is a very sad thing for our country, it's poisoning the blood of our country. >> i'm joined now by maggie haberman from the united new york times. -- you've covered donald trump for a long time, you wrote a book on him. what did you make of the comments in new hampshire on saturday night? >> it was striking to me not him rooting for the prompter about enemies within, because he actually has said that before. but vermin was new. and the dehumanizing language that he is increasingly willing to use, poisoning the blood of the country, also, has echoes of fascists, and that is a new piece that he has had to his repertoire about immigrants. so i think the language which has been, you know, very, a very, you know, fascist invoking, or at least echoes of fascists in history for a long time has become much more dramatic and much more severe in recent weeks. and to your point, he's not hiding any of it. what's striking to me is when this campaign tries to insist that is not really saying what he is saying. so as you know, they push back on what he said, but they push back on it with a quote that talks about crushing his opponents. and i can see where they think they're being clever and that there is suggesting that there's a kind of a liberal troll. that's not what they said. >> yes, they said crushed their entire existence. steven jiang spokesperson said that's not what he meant to say, but it was something that he typed out to reporters, and something that trump said on camera. can you talk about the progression of trump's language, because he long used language of authoritarians and fascists. why is it progressing the way it is now? why does he feel comfortable calling his political opponents vermin? >> i think for a couple, reasons he truly does feel as if he has somehow been on lead by the existence of these indictments against. him i think he sees this as giving him for a license to say what he wants, but this is -- the donald trump who says things like this is the donald trump has always been there. that donald trump was much better at masking himself behind a more socially acceptable contemporary version of a developer in new york, or a reality television star, or a media figure. this is who he is. and, remember, things that we are seeing like him threatening to go after political opponents, in terms of investigations, or whatever way he means that, when he gets back to office, this is something we learned that since he did a lot more when he was in office than people realize. we know that there was efforts to investigate john kerry. there were efforts to investigate hillary clinton. there were all kinds of efforts to go after people. he also talked about special counsel against hillary clinton in 2016. this is who he is. >> now he wants to investigate the people who worked for him, people like john kelly and jim mattis. when we look at the general milley, who just love the joint chiefs of staff, he wants people that actually worked for him. >> i personally don't have reporting, on that but that having been said, one of the things about donald trump is that he never rules out anything. you know this as well as anybody, which means that everything is on the table. and then, his folks say, well, he did not really say it, but someone else said it. if he isn't open to these ideas, then he is perfectly capable of saying that. >> and i think that, you know, this is not just theoretical. you've done a lot of reporting on what a second trump term would look like. and the latest, his immigration plans, that was one of his biggest issues that he brought to office in 2016. what will that look like if he were to be a really reelected? >> a couple of things, he has noted and his been pretty direct about that. he said in a speech that he wanted to conduct the largest mass deportation operation in the country, that the country has seen. and he is using an eisenhower era model with a racist name operation went back as what he wanted to have in mind. >> that's the name of an immigration program. >> that is what he wants to emulate here, something with that in mind. and when we approached charlie savage and i, when we approach the trump campaign about trump's immigration plan, they referred us to stephen miller, who is not formally advising the campaign, but as you know, he was the architect of the immigration policy in the white house, and he is now working on finding lawyers for a future republican administration. and so, they laid out and various people we spoke to laid out a very detailed plan that would involve camps on massive open land to enable this expedited removal and mass deportation. they talk about invoking all kinds of different laws that would enable them to get around existing systems. they talk about reestablishing title 42, which was used during covid as a protocol which was initially kept in place by president biden, and this time for some kind of general illness. and so, it's very specific. and this is something that those of us who have seen stephen miller around a long time, this is something that stephen miller is passionate about. donald trump kicked off his campaign with demagoguery and demagoguing immigrants and talking about mexicans may, racists or none of this is hugely surprising. >> i was hearing your story in the new york times -- stephen miller is on the record with you. you noted in the story that trump campaign referred to you to stephen miller. how do we explain the statement tonight that we are getting from that to people who are running trump's campaign saying that all of these stories would look like they say are purely speculative, and theoretical that any personnel list, policy agendas, or government plans to publish anywhere are merely suggestions. >> so, we get to that by the basic fact that they are very upset by our stories, by others and a number of outlets, and we have been working on these stories since june about what trump 2025 would look like. they invoked these groups, of not only these groups, and that they have lost in their minds control of, it and they are angry that seeing groups getting credit for, things and pieces that they're working on and so forth. to your point, a lot of this is not just trump's own mouth, but people who the trump campaign is referring reporters to. so, this is -- >> why are they putting out a statement now? >> well i think because they think what trump is actually saying is problematic for him in a general election, which seems more look at them problem than the things we are writing about problem. >> i want to read one line that stood out to me from your piece on immigration. you said part of the plan, u.s. consular officials are brought, directed to expand ideological screening of visa applicants to block people that the trump administration considers to have undesirable attitudes. >> look, they are planning for, as they describe it, whether this would be doable or not, and how much -- we know all of this is going to get challenged legally, particularly concerning citizenship, birthright citizenship and the attempts to end that. they will try to impose that to weed people out, whether they'll be able to successfully do that or not, i don't know. but they are saying that in this is being discussed at a time when there's obviously mass protests about global events. so -- >> i mean, the staffing of a trump term, i think, what is important for people to remember, you talked about how there's so many things that he tried to do that he did not do. that is because there are people like general kelly, like esper, who basically stood in the way, maybe not enough for some people. but they did block some of the things that he wanted to do. >> well, at the time, you know this as well as anybody, trump is very, very responsive and reactive to media coverage. for instance, when they were doing the family separation policy which they will not say what's going to happen with that, and trump noted with you at the town hall that he would not hold that out. but he was very reactive to the negative coverage, and that was used to push him away from it in 2018. and that work. i don't know that he will be as responsive to headlines as he once was, just because of everything else engulfing him. >> maggie haberman, great reporting. >> thank you. >> up next, we get a firsthand look at the widespread destruction on the ground in gaza. cnn's nick robertson says that his 30 years of war reporting, he has never seen anything like it. we will show you it, next. >> tonight, cnn has an exclusive look on the ground inside of gaza. my colleague nic robertson embedded with israeli defense forces as they conducted an operation against hamas next to a hospital in gaza city. cnn reported from gaza under the idf escort at all times, i should note cnn did not submit its script, or footage to the idf, and has retained complete editorial control over the final report. this is from nic robertson. >> driving into gaza, with the israeli forces. it's a war zone. the conditions of our access only showing officers, no faces of soldiers, and don't show sensitive equipment. we are passing mile after mile of destruction. buildings blown, collapsed, nothing untouched by the fury of israel's hunt for hamas. streets here, crushed back to sand. >> shops, everything that we see -- no sign of any civilians, here and the soldiers have been telling us that even inside of the stores, they have been fighting things like rocket propelled grenades. ready to use against them, as they were advancing through this area. >> a few miles in, we pull up at a command post. soldiers living in blown apartment buildings. >> every building i'm looking at here, wherever you turn, it's destroyed, it's shot up, it's hard to imagine how civilians endured the. bombardment here. >> our next journey is much deeper into gaza. and it's about to get dangerous. >> the troops are going, in and the jeeps, and this is what we're going to travel. in this armored vehicle here. >> we arrive 100 meters from a battle with hamas. [sound of artillery] >> tanks blasting targets in nearby buildings. the idf's top spokesperson is waiting for us. we are conducting an operation inside gaza -- >> israel is facing a massive international pressure over the destruction of homes, the shockingly high civilian death toll, and in the last few days, over its apparently heavy-handed tactics at hospitals. >> we've got bulldozers to rebuild the tunnels that we suspect are underneath the hospital. >> gary has brought us here, to show the connection he says exists between hamas and the rantisi children's hospital. >> we are now here in an area between a hospital, a school, and a terrorist house. >> a hamas commander he says, lived there. he points out the solar panels on the roof. >> this is a tunnel that was lighted under the floor -- you can see here the latter going down. >> i can see the ladder going down. >> it's a 20 meter tunnel. look at here, look at the tunnel. be careful here. look down here. >> those cables are going down to the tunnel. >> so, they are hard wired into the tunnel. >> i want to show you the solar panels on the terrorists house, providing electricity directly to the tunnel. we have entered a robot inside the town, and a robot saw a massive door that is in the direction of the hospital. >> within the active fire zone here, you can hear the smaller arms fire. the i.d. -- the idf says they are clearing the area, taking a bit of cover. but over here, we were able to smell what smells like rotting flesh, bodies perhaps buried underneath the rubble. don't expose yourself. >> as we move off to the hospital, the hundred meters away, we are still taking fire. >> we are still conducting an operation, an operation conducted by a special unit, the israeli navy seals are researching the hospitals. >> he later tells us that he took a big risk bringing us into such a combat zone. it is clear he wants this story told. >> we are searching here to see the connection of the tunnel to the hospital. don't fall here. >> we are looking for the connection. >> as we finally reached the hospital, it is already getting dark. a huge hole has been blasted through the walls to the basement. >> why is the hospital so damaged? >> why is the hottest hospital so damage? i will explain. we came to this hospital five days ago. there were still patients inside the hospital. we did not enter the hospital. >> he claims since then, all patients were evacuated by hospital staff. >> we assessed this evacuation to make it a safe pass for all the patients in the hospital. we do not know if the hospital is entirely clear. we do not know. we only entered through this area, what was suspected -- >> he leads us through the war, basement corridors. to this room. >> this was the armory. >> he shows us a few rusting guns, and some explosives. he says he can show us evidence, they found a lot more. but this is what they made safe for our visit. these guns alone have potentially huge implications for gaza's hospitals, and israel's apparent push to take control of them. >> the international committee for the red cross say that hospitals are given special protection under international humanitarian law in a time of war. but if militants store weapons there or use them as a base of fire, that protection falls away. >> in other rooms, he shows us a motorbike with a bullet hole in it that he suspects was used by hamas attackers on october 7th. and nearby, possible evidence that hostages could have been held here. >> we are now in the basement in the same area just yards from the motorcycle. we see a chair, we see a rope. we see women's clothes, something covering a woman. >> you think a woman was tied up in this chair? >> this is an assumption that's going to be checked by dna. >> for evidence, he says, it points towards hamas and possible hostage presents below the hospital. >> this is what -- every terrorist has his own shift. >> in this room, he says, a guard list that begins october 7th ends november 3rd, not long before the hospital was evacuated. and on the other side of the room -- >> this is a knife, right? >> yes, actually, i haven't seen it until now. >> what does it tell you? >> i don't want to think about it. but israel does not make assumptions. the forensic team will come here and check the evidence. i think there is no other answer. by holding hostages here in this room. >> and by bringing us here to this hospital and showing us the connection that you believe exists between the terrorists and the hostages, possibly, what does that say about the other hospitals here in gaza? >> we asked them to evacuate, and we assist or help because they asked us. the pediatric babies, they asked us to take them out. we offered our help. we have brought incubators. to who we will take some? red cross, egypt, who will take them? but cynically, al-shifa hospital is known by facts, intelligence, to be a terrorist hub. and also it is suspicious to holding hostages. this is the best shelter for the war machine of hamas. >> the hospital authority says they have no knowledge of hamas or other groups inside the hospitals. is that possible? >> i don't think it's possible for a hospital to have this kind of infrastructure like we saw here, and to build this kind of infrastructure in a basement that was probably ready before getting those hostages, after the 7th of october massacre. we knew the terrorists were here. we knew. >> how did you know? >> by intelligence, and also we got fire from this area. >> from this area? >> from this area, and we were ready to fire. we found an armory. and if one of our guys would have died from an explosive or a grenade, it's horrible. hamas using this war machine of hospitals in a barbaric way. it is a war crime. it is an international crime, not just as a war machine, but holding hostages in a children hospital -- >> but so much damage all around here. >> there is damage all around here because hamas made it impossible for us to fight them. they built all this infrastructure in tunnels and in hospitals around areas that are populated. >> as we exit the hospital, it is already dark. >> we are just getting ready to leave right now. the f