their relationship and all that attention that it's getting. i'm probably going to get some hate online for making any comment about that. thank you so much for joining us this afternoon around. always a pleasure. the lever jake tapper starts right now 34 convictions. >> but what happens next? the leader starts right now donald trump takes to the mic, airing familiar grievances and railing against the historic guilty verdict in the hush money case. what the trump team's plan we're going to talk tell you moving forward. potential trump vice presidential pick senator tim scott will be here and i'll also talk with republican senator rick scott of florida, who's running a replace mitch mcconnell plus senate republican leader plus one of trump's targets today as former fixer, michael cohen. how does he feel now that his former boss is a convicted felon, michael cohen's lawyer joins me, lie and president biden announces a new proposal for a ceasefire in gaza. it will bring hostages home, including americans. this hamas onboard welcome the lead. >> i'm phil mattingly in for jake tapper. this our two senators with major poland, the republican party join us with their own defenses of donald trump one day after a manhattan jury found the former president guilty in his criminal hush money trial, donald trump today vowing to appeal that verdict and his new york criminal hush money cover-up trial none of this stops him, of course, from running for president and his sentencing hearing is set for july 11, which just happens to be days before he is expected to officially become the republican presidential nominee. source tells cnn trump's allies believed the oval office is the only thing that would shield you from facing at least two other trials that are far more consequential. >> today. present biden reacted to his place political opponents, conviction on donald trump, guilty on all 34 felony counts now it'd be given the opportunity as he should two appeal that decision just like everyone else has that opportunity. that's how the american system of justice works and it's reckless is dangerous, it's irresponsible for anyone to say this was rigged just because they don't like the verdict cnn's kristen holmes has a look at what trump's team is doing behind the scenes as they prepare for both sentencing and a presidential election if they can do this to me, they can do this to anyone. >> i defined donald trump lashing out friday a day after a new york jury found him guilty on all 34 counts in his criminal hush money trial. we're gonna fight. i'm wired in such a way that a lot of people would have gone away a long time ago from air grievances with the trial and leveled attacks at the prosecutor and the presiding judge, juan merchan. >> it was a rigged trial. we wanted a venue change where we could have a fair trial. we didn't get it. we wanted a judge change. we wanted to judge. it wasn't conflicted and obviously he didn't do that there's nobody's ever seen anything like it, even as the former president remains under a gag order that blocks them from speaking out about witnesses, jurors, and others closely tied to the case. trump's singled out ex-attorney michael cohen, a key witness in the case. without using his name, not allowed to use his name because of the gag order. but you know, he's just leaves back. everybody knows that took me a while to find out but he was effective. he did work but he wasn't a fixer. he was a lawyer in a statement to cnn, cohen called trump's remarks a quote, crazy avalanche of broken brain word manure, no presidential candidates have been under a gag order before i'm under a gag order. >> nasty gag order think of it. >> i'm the leading candidate. >> trump also claimed friday he wanted to testify in the trial, but suggested one of his lawyers encouraged him not to do so. >> but now i would have testified i wanted to testify the theory is you never testify because as soon as you test for anybody, if it were george washington, don't testify because they'll get you on something that you said slightly wrong and then they sue you for perjury trump's allies and supporters swiftly rally behind the presumptive gop nominee with the campaign announcing it had raised more than 34 million in the hours after the verdict. at one point, even crushing the fundraising platform used by trump's campaign, while top republicans, including several vice presidential hopefuls join trump and criticizing the conviction what happened in new york was a travesty of the justice system. you cannot say that this trial was anything more than politics masquerading as justices until that november election, both biden and trump are turning their attention to that where voters are really going to make their own judgment on who wins the white house, phil. >> yeah, both camps agree on mac macros and home stores in new york. thanks so much. donald trump's legal team says, it will appeal the new york or jury's verdict that found trump guilty. those 34 counts of falsifying business records. so what exactly with that process look like? well first, that'll tropez to wait for his sentencing, which is scheduled for july 11, within 30 days of that sentencing, trump has to file a notice of appeal and then trump's team has six months to submit his appeal and other relevant trial documents. a process called perfecting the appeal. trump's team would have six months to do this. now, the case will then go before five judge appeals panel, which will decide whether to uphold or overturn trump's conviction. if the panel upholds the jury's verdict, trump can seek permission to have new york's highest court consider his appeal this court can decide to hear the case we're forego it all together with me to discuss all of this and more criminal defense attorney and former prosecutor for the manhattan da's office, jeremy saland, trial attorney misty marris, and criminal defense attorney bernardo vega, ilona guys, thanks so much. there's a lot of politics, there's no question about that. we want to talk about the legal here, and i want to start with what todd blanche said about the appeals process. he said that he's going to try and file motions before a formal appeal. what does that mean? what does it look like? can it work? yeah. so defense attorneys commonly do this. this is routine, so the first step is for the defense attorney to go to the trial judge. so this is judge martian and say that this verdict was what's called against the weight of the evidence basically says the jury got it wrong, that there was not enough evidence for the jury to convict. they asked the judge to overturn the verdict. that's that's the first avenue. it's very unlikely for that to succeed. almost always that motion gets denied unless there's a very extreme situation then the next step, as you said, is to go to the appellate division. the appellate division looks at the case, looks at the record and we'll make a determination about whether or not there were errors of law. they don't question the jury. the jury is the finder of fact. they say, was there something that was overly prejudicial should evidence have come into the courtroom that didn't or did something come in that shouldn't have were the jury instructions? objections proper? those are all the issues that the appellate court will look at. its two different aspects. and it is routine for defense attorneys to go both routes. >> jeremy, one of the questions that i keep getting asked the last 24 hours. when is this all going to happen hello how long? it's already happening probably already happened or started to happen before there was a verdict. they saw the writing on the wall i think the mother teresa comment was really that throw out there like, i can't win. i'm sort of getting ready to say i'm not as good as them. i got a worst basketball team, baseball team. i'm going to lose giving that preemptory. i'm the victim here and they already started that now. they're going to file within that time frame and it could take certainly well more than a year on on appeal and they're gonna lose this this isn't new law. it's unique in the sense that it involves the former president. it's unique in the sense that maybe we're dealing with federal election law, but it's not falsifying business records is as old as the pinal ball, relatively speaking but this is not something that's fresh and like, wow, we need a new look at this. so it's going to take that whole year time, maybe more, maybe less. will a court of appeals takes such a case. >> maybe maybe not. >> but this is really mundane and typical. >> i want to play some before you the speaker mike johnson said this morning, i'm fox news. take a listen i do believe this supreme court should step and obviously this is totally unprecedented and it's dangerous to our system. i think that the justices on the court, i know many of them personally. i think they're deeply concerned about that as we are. so i think they'll set this straight, but it's going to take a while. >> i wish we had an iso cam on your face as he was speaking based on your reaction, what you've seen perplexed by sir, sit down so in terms of what happened at there's also one more motion that is going to be filed before judge merchan, and that's a motion to set aside the verdict. and judge merchan is going to make that decision, but there's only three grounds that you can set aside the verdict before sentencing, and that has to deal with juror misconduct has to do when newly discovered evidence or whether there's an error so big a trial that if it were to be appealed, that it will be an automatic reversals so unlikely, none of those three happened during trial. so just like how jeremy said and just how i'm misty said you have the appellate process. appellate process is going to go through the appellate division first. if the appellate decision of decision division upholds the verdict, then of course, a grant lead to see if they'll go to the court of appeals, but that's not going to happen here. i don't think that but there's such a big issue that the new york court of appeals is going to step in and reverse the conviction itself. and just just be mindful that even if either least courts that bint doesn't mean that they're going to dismiss the case if anything, they're going to send it back to the trial court. but the united states supreme court so that's packed with trump's nominees is not going to make a decision. and this new york state criminal conviction, missy todd blanche, trump's lead attorney in there, sat down fascinating conversation with a colleague, kaitlan collins last time i want you to take it a listen to this do you accept that he did have his de and cord and it was a jury of his peers that made this decision no. >> not at all. >> we were indicted for conduct that happened in 2015, 16, 17, in a jurisdiction that it was very hard for us to get a a fair trial. every single person on that jury, new donald trump either as president, as candidate, from the apprentice and so i don't accept that this was a fair this was a fair place to try so there's a lot to unpack there. first, blanche says the trial was unfair because trump was indicted for conduct that happened in 2015, 16 and 17. blanche all says it was an unfair trial because jurors new donald trump as president and from the apprentice, wouldn't that be true anywhere in the country? >> yes. so first of all, i think at a bare minimum, you have to say we respect the jury process and we respect that the jury returned this verdict. now, if he wants to say there are appellate issues that we're going to pursue. of course, any defense attorney is going to pursue those issues that are going to say we should have had a change of venue. i don't particularly think that holds water. we're talking about making a change of venue argument based on just the makeup of the political spectrum in new york. that is not a basis. there has to be something that is reasonably likely to lead to an a biased jury. it's just not going to hold water in this case. so that's one avenue, you know, but he's going to say that there are a bunch of evidentiary decisions that went against donald trump. that's what his job is to do in the appellate process. i actually think there is one appellant issue. i just want to flag it. whether or not a new york state election law could be the predicate crime for this because he was running for federal office i think that's the primary appellant issue that doesn't really gets into the weeds of the case, doesn't really get into the evidentiary decisions, but it would be a novel issue for the court to decide, jeremy, you're scribbling furiously during the blanche comments. i want to ask you about that for a second. in a second, but this is point how are you so certain there is no grounds for a successful appeal here, you're not certain and that's why you appeal, though you would appeal regardless because that's what you do very often because there's something you may miss and you look back at that transcript. and very often it's not the trial attorney in some cases, it is it's an appellate lawyer who's skilled in the appellate work to look through that transcript and find things that maybe the trial attorney did not see or was unaware of. so and also, you don't want to be looking at your own potential errors and mistakes. you want a fresh set of eyes to do so. but to the point here, i pulled out a few things. first of all, it's not we it's we're indicted. it was donald trump was indicted by a grand jury. conduct and 16 and 17, it's called the statute of limitations and you failed on that front. so the statue of limitations had not run by his conclusion, meaning blanche, if this was an alabama therefore, and it was a democrat, would he said the same thing was unfair? the bottom line is with all due respect to mr. blanche he did a poor job on cross-examination. he poorly prepared or prepped or was ready for bob costello, who i wouldn't just say drop the ball was a potential double or triple you're not a home run, but he couldn't get on base because it's misconduct in the way he behaved was adeline. you think things like the gloat comparing michael cohen who really did a terrific job and that's credited steinglass and that team as sort of the michael jordan of lies. what did that get them to be cute and funny. it wasn't it didn't do anything. the prosecution was methodic buckle. they were deliberate boring at times, but they did their job. and unfortunately for mr. blanche, he was meandering his he says closing was and when he when he across the dam and michael cohen, his last question, i won't pull it up. gave michael cohen the ability to sort of build themselves right back up. he left the question out there. that was open-ended. you did not direct what you do in leading as a defense attorney and gave him the power to rehabilitate himself. he failed let's be honest, todd blanche was out, lloyd he was out lawyers because he had a great reputation coming in federal court. this a state court, this is a completely different ballgame a completely different ball game. so he is a former federal prosecutor. >> but when you're dealing with state court and that's my playground, i've been practicing in state court for 20 years now. he was out lawyer in state court. josh steinglass. you got to think he got home-court advantage in the sense that he's been at that prosecutor's office. he's been dealing with new york county county jurors to win his entire korea. he knows the judge, he knows how things play out inside of the courtroom. and in terms of todd, blanche, i knew that he was in trouble doing his opening statement that's just first failure right there. his opening statement where he opened up the door and a sense that he's like he started talking automatically, stormy daniel just never happened had you not address your opening statement like that and just left it just plain as we normally do, you have to prove your case beyond a reasonable doubt. keep an open mind, donald trump, he has he's presumed innocent. he has a cloaca presumption of innocence then you wouldn't have gotten into the stormy daniel details of this sexual encounter? i wouldn't be hearing how donald trump got his butt's map with a magazine. so that's number one. number two, michael cohen, that cross-examination, i would say for all four days, horrible, horrible. you humanize him at one point, phil, i started feeling bad for michael cohen, like sorry for him. i shouldn't be feeling like that. so imagine if i did imagine the jury yeah, because i'm going to gay. >> he alluded. to the fact that you to co litigate in this case. it was the former president, misty jeremy bernard. thank you, guys very much well, next on the lady's reported to be on the shortlist for donald trump's running mate. what is centered tim 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