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politics. >> it's flagged it. >> and also donald trump's burden the former president presumptive republican nominee is celebrating the big 78. he says he wants to pretend the day does not exist, but it does. and it highlights one of the biggest issues of this election plus a supreme court decision on guns, the highest court in the land, striking down a ban on bump stocks the one used in the deadliest mass shooting in american history. one liberal justice warren's rulli will have deadly consequences and the lesser of three evil that, that's how some voters who backed trump's 2016 and then biden in 2020, explain why they're choosing robert f. kennedy jr. this time around, you hear firsthand how swing voters and swing-state are weighing their choices. manu raju in for dana bash, let's go behind that leinz in inside politics first up they say age is just a number. but in this presidential race where both candies would be the oldest president ever integrated. it's so much more. now, trump turns 78 today, but he got an early birthday gift from house and senate republicans yesterday, a huge show, show of loyalty cnn's kristen holmes is in west palm beach, close to where trump is spending his birthday. so crystal, what are you hearing about how the present plans to commemorate the former president plans to commemorate this big day we're going to be at an event later today. it's called club 47. it's basically his biggest supporters in florida are holding an event for him at the convention center in west palm beach that he's going to come and speak to it. now, i will note part of the reason that we are down here covering this so closely is because this the same event, not as birthday obviously, but a club 47 event that last year israel, donald trump got up and started talking about bibi netanyahu, much to the chagrin of many of his biggest jewish supporters really criticizing netanyahu. and that is how donald trump gets often when he is in a room full of his biggest most ramping ravid supporters now let's talk about age for one seconds since we brought it up, 78 is not a young man and as you said, age is a huge issue in this presidential election. one of the things that we have continued to report out is you'll never hear donald trump's specifically referring to biden's age, partly because he is so close behind joe biden, if you were to win in the fall, he would be the oldest person older than president joe biden was too, except the presidency to come into the white house. it's one thing to keep in mind. the other part of this is a donald trump has a lot of donors who are older than joe biden, something that he is keenly aware of now you mentioned something else, the gift that he got from both senate republicans, as well as house republicans. i will tell you he had a very candid conversation with multiple senior advisers who said that they were happy with the unity around donald trump yesterday. they obviously were not happy with the remarks and how they played out, calling milwaukee in particular horrible some of the other things that came out of that house republican meeting. >> but the one thing that they really focus down on, i heard this from a number of senior advisers. was this picture donald trump shaking hands with senator mitch mcconnell, all of them pointed to this picture as the most notable moment from yesterday essentially cementing donald trump's grip on the republican party as we, you and i have continually reported, this has been a very rocky, very icy relationship that two of them hadn't spoken, sends mcconnell's certified the elections and secret congratulated since the election was certified, and mcconnell congratulated biden. this was a moment really of unity and they are celebrating that. in particular, coming out of yesterday yes, indeed, kristen holmes live frehse, florida. thank you so much for that. and i want to bring your my great panel reporters the boston globe, jacky coaston, cnn's isaac dovere cnn's eva mccann, and romesh per neuro of the national review, nice to see you all. i want to start off with where chris ingest left about that show of support on capitol hill yesterday, i spoke a lot of house republicans and senate republicans instead was did anyone raise any concerns? were there anyone any dissension? the answer uniformly was no, whether it was a vulnerable republican, wasn't people who are upset about we, donald trump handle generate six generally six didn't even come up in the conversation. you will, that was a chief concern of admission mcconnell on this issue but what do they tell you? it tells me they know where their basis i know where the republican voters are, and they know where where, who the party is. standing behind and that person is former president trump and you know, this better than i think any of us mitch mcconnell wants to win mcconnell is a realist. he is a republican and this is where the party is and he's not going to be a field of where his voters are and let's turn back to the issue of age and that's this being donald trump's birthday. >> he's not excited about it. this is how he put it in a rally with laws las vegas voters this past weekend thank you i wish. thank you there's a certain point at which you don't want to hear happy birthday you just want to pretend the day doesn't exist. >> just want to pretend the day doesn't exist. obviously, this is a huge issue, issue among lots of voters, which is why we've been talking about a lot about the age, about biden trend. biden wants make sure that people remember trump's age as well. this is how poll shows the cbs poll bot has did the vogue candidates have the mental and cognitive health to serve as president? biden 35%, trump, 50%, but the biden campaign is more than happy to try to point out the verbal stumbles of trump, to try to muddy the waters a bit. >> yeah. look, these are both older men who are have lost some of their control, their syntax it's over the years. and are moving differently. i mean, i think it's notable that job in has been for all of it keeping up a pretty busy schedule and donald trump has not had that busy scheduled, but i was at a fundraiser in new york on tuesday night with doug emhoff, the husband of kamala harris, and he said, donald trump is degrading before our eyes. you see that that's where some of this is going among democrats. it's still for the biden campaign, not an issue that they really want to talk about. they'd rather not talk about the age at all, but they feel like if we're going to talk about age, let's talk about both of them vagal. do you see jill biden saying that? and then you'd see some people, jb pritzker, the governor of illinois, was in wisconsin last weekend and he said and it's not a verbatim but close. he said, donald trump is a flashing old man who was falling asleep in his court trial, right that's where some of this energy has gone. >> does that do you think that has any impact among voters, trump's age versus biden or his trump is ease taking advantage of the fact that voters look at biden is someone who is too old well, i think that a lot of voters would prefer it if we had candidates who were more mentally agile than either of these two i do think that people wear their age differently and biden is wearing his in a way that voters find more rumbling. >> but at the same time, i do wonder about the campaign tactics on either side because i think this is one of those things that voters can draw their own conclusions about. they see these people on tv, they hear them, and they don't really need other people to tell them what to think about this issue and i want to turn to how trump is planning to engage in the next couple of days and build his coalition and also tried to court his right-wing base. this is what, this weekend he's going to michigan, isn't be campaigning with two potential vp candidates, byron donalds, ben carson, to reach out to black voters, vote. that is obviously a question about whether biden can maintain is huge advantage that he had with black voters in the 2020 election. some polls do show that is slipping eva, what is your sense of how much trump can cut in to biden's advantage with black voters, will republicans are really confident that this will be the cycle. but i am skipping the gold because republicans have said that for several cycles. so this is going to be the time when they're going to have a deep inroads with black voters, they do see his style of toughness, his brand of masculinity as appealing to some black voters he has black surrogates in different communities talking to small black business owners about capital and they're confident in this strategy that they are employing. black men are very much seen as a swing voter. i think in this cycle group that both parties are really trying to appeal to and democrats, i can say with certainty are worried yeah. >> and what's interesting is that there's a new story out from semaphore from kadena galba. an interesting look at how trump has according to some black celebrities, really backed former athletes over the years who are supporting him. people like darryl strawberry, the former new york med, lawrence taylor, the former new york giant, and calling about man's man, mike tyson, the former box are saying they want to treat him in court. that's the way they did black people and trump himself was taught talked to her about this as well. talking about how he has this is what he's said in the same article. he said, i have so many black friends that if i were racist, they wouldn't be friends. they would know better than anybody in fast. they would know they would not be with me for two minutes if they thought i was racist. and i'm not racist your reaction well, i mean, it is a little bit of a cliche to say that can't be racist because i have black friends on the other end, i actually do think the problem with the cliche historically is that people, these weren't actually their friends, they're people who work for them or are people they had passing acquaintance with and to the extent that is a real friendship, i do think that counts as evidenced, but the problem with trump's support right now among black voters, and it is disproportionately younger black men is that these are also disproportionately people who don't vote regularly. so there's something real happening here, but it's also precarious and we're not really going to know until november whether it pans out great. i think it's also an age question and i'm mean, lawrence taylor mike tyson, darryl strawberry, these are people from my childhood, i'm n young black men, the celebrities, the black celebrities of the 80s and 90s it's all wrapped up together, though they are definitely people that trump was friendly with from his pre politics and i mentioned how trump has. >> he's tried to court black voters this week, but he's also trying to rile up folks on his right flank. there's a far-right group called turning point usa. they're turning action. he's going to this conference to speak to them this weekend along with some others and democratic-controlle d take advantage of the fact of the person who is running this ghraieb, charlie kirk, the things that he has said in the past, including this young ladies present a great opportunity they are not not conservative. they've been sold a lie through culture, through media through even some of their parents that, you basically have to go pursue this corporate trajectory and that men are always the problem and suppress your biological impulses. a lot of them are on birth control to and birth control, like really screws up female brains he also has suggested that women over 30 are less desirable. i take real objection to that blesses hard but but listen, women are such an important constituency for both parties. we know that trump lost women in 2020. the biden walking way with about 60% of the female vote, it was a little bit more white women. that's supportive of him and mostly women of color that led to biden's victory. but he is sort of, i think a complicated ambassador and surrogate for trump because i i'm going to turning point this weekend, so i'll have this conversation with women myself. but i would assume that many women would find the comments at charlie kirk makes deeply offensive. >> i do wonder if the associated trump has all sorts of associations with lots of people with views that are objectionable to a lot of people. i think it's trump himself. what he will say there and what comes out of his mouth. that is much more detrimental until two women do his standing with women and perhaps other groups. >> if you're all that who's not offended by things that trump has said and done, then you're not going to be offended by charlie kirk. >> such a good point, we'll see of course, suburban women key to this election as they have been past cycles. all right, next, donald trump trashes the city that 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down along familiar lines, bump stocks, shooter to convert a semi-automatic rifle into a weapon that can fire hundreds of rounds a minute. >> but in the court's majority opinion, justice clarence thomas, argues that quote, a bump stock does not convert a semi-automatic rifle into a machine gun anymore than a shooter with that lightning fast trigger finger does. i want to bring in cnn's senior supreme court analyst, joan biskupic, who is in court. decision was being read and joan, there was a fiery dissent from the liberal justice is good to see you, yes, this is the time of the year when we get our most consequential decisions from the supreme court. >> and on occasion will get a rare or for all dissent from the bench. and that's exactly what happened today after justice thomas read from his majority opinion than justice sotomayor gave this very impassioned dissent. but first let's remind everyone of the context of this prohibition on bump stocks and how it came during the trump administration in 2017 after a gunman fired into an outdoor music festival in las vegas, killing 58 people and wounding more than 500 so the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, and firearms under the president, former president and trump expanded that idea of what would be covered under the 1934 machine gun prohibition, saying that bump stocks because of what they can enable a weapon to do, should be covered, what to do? today's decision came down to mono, was actually something quite techno, technical in that 1934 law that refers to automatically firing with a single movement of the finger or the single function of the trigger. and just clarence thomas backed, as you said, by the ideological conservative is ideological majority, are all republican appointees said that that provision has to be read narrowly to not include bump stocks because he said for a bump stock it doesn't fire as up to age hundred rounds as it can fire up to 800 rounds with just a single function, justice sotomayor said, no when once somebody pulls that trigger and maintains pressure on the the weapon and the trigger rest. it can fire continuously, so it should be covered and i have to say, manoa, she read portions, have her just ten from the bench. she had a really gloomy voice to say this decision now puts machine guns bump stocks back in the hands of civilians. mano, jump is cooper. thanks for that. and the biden campaign responded to the today's decision within minutes inside, if you care about the gun violence crisis in this country, there's only one candidate and his rise with a proven record of successfully lobby suddenly taking on the gun lobby and only one candidate who will ban assault weapons and lying capacity magazines as a president, biden, my panel is back. this is the debate that joe biden wants clearly about about guns. is that enough to move swing voters, particularly in suburban detroit? they believe so. they moved on bipartisan bill and around last year and but two years ago, in the 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