three-to-one, three-to-one and today no hbo original series, real time with bill barr wow just see the debate in case you missed it, don't worry or resorted. >> one of the contestants i mean wow, i mean, trump told lie after lie after lie, he never would have gotten away with that if joe biden was there come on, man you know, joe, he famously loves trains, but apparently not of thought all night confused in the halting and trailing up, i've seen beauty pageant contestants enter questions better i don't want to say shut the bedroom secrets service name is amber heard. i'm there wasn't just what came out of his mouth i mean, the look on his face, the whole night. it just looked like somebody just thought he left the stove on you know? i mean, the last time cna last time scene and coverage them in this lost i gotta get back to that. malaysian airline plane that here's the most ironic part. the republicans were so afraid that joe is going to be beating the expectations. remember, last week, there were like he's gonna be jacked up put out all this crap of a jack job. he's gonna have a secret earpiece in really who was on who was on the other end of it? jimmy carter one foreign tourists drunk, which winning by so much started to talk about golf. he just you know what this happened in america formerly a real country if that wasn't enough trump. look thinner. some people said he's on his epic note. that is not what it is. he just licensed off. that's fine. robert perfect. night to beyond. we're going to talk about it soon. but for now, democrats have some hard conversations. they'd have to have joe biden noble guy what did a great thing when he got elected president did very well for three years, but now there is no toothpaste left in that tube we either walk around with bad breath or green teeth or walk into a cvs and sharp lift a new tube chris matthews first, he is future instead, new york times bestselling author. book is called the singularity is nearer when we merge with ai ray kurzweil great you look good. right are you still having 200 pills a day no. i'm down to 70. 70. i have about the same congratulations on your that science, right? we're putting good things in our body, right okay. so i'm so anxious to have you on. i want to place you in case people don't know who you are nobody has been more on ai, the new from the last century when people were not even thinking, i mean, i never thought of ai. the only time i ever thought i was the one spielberg movie. i didn't like only for 61 years 61 years? yeah and you obviously you're google's main ai guy. but i mean, back in 1999 you were talking about this going on with ai in the singular and you said in 2029, you had a whole book about it. you said that's when human will achieve human level intelligence hasn't it already depends, not really okay. i'm some thing 2029 other people are saying two years, three years, four years. when i said that in around 2000 everybody thought is going to take 100 years right? and 30 years was very optimistic but human level intelligence, i thought it had far surpassed us big as it can do so many things. >> we can't yes. i mean, you can ask it anything until philosophy, psychology physics, and it will give you a very good answer. and if you don't like that, you can ask it again. it will give you another answer. it's also good right but there's a few things. it doesn't do it, it doesn't create art. the way a master artist would do. thank you the next prediction. and by the way, you have many other predictions and you predict the end of the soviet union, like within a couple of years, yeah. okay. so i mean, there's nobody like you. i just want people to understand that you say 2045. this is when we basically become a hybrid species, when we merge in the cloud with the machines, basically you're sticking with that 2045 because that's 20 years away. and let me tell you, folks, 20 years goes fast. young people be there tomorrow period. we're going to reach longevity, escape velocity, where we go a year and our longevity actually increases by years. so we're not going to actually succumb to aging so we hope well you can have a 20-year-old who has longevity of many decades and they could die tomorrow. so it's not a guarantee. but could i just have the 20 explain to me, what this 0.21 explain to me what this means. merging in the cloud. what if i want to opt out of that? what i mean, my mother used to say don't live with your head in the clouds. now you want it a little bit first of all, what does that mean? my head merge in the cloud. >> well, you've got lots of connections in your brain. we have a certain size brain, so there were more intelligent than other animals but we'd actually like to increase that. we'd like to become more intelligent so we'll actually go to the cloud. the cloud doubles in capacity every year so that'll actually make us more intelligent. so it'll be just like we are now, except it will be a lot more intelligent than we were a year. so optimistic about this. i mean, i'm sure you've thought about it as zillion times more than i have, but that some downsides okay. oh good. i'm glad you acknowledge it because what i read in your book, you say you like to use the frayed will be frage will be freed from our skulls let me read this quote. do you say the most commonly discussed worst-case scenario? is the potential creation of gray goo self-replicating machines that consume carbon-based matter and turn it into more self-replicating machines. such a process could lead to a runaway chain reaction, potentially converting the entire biomass of the earth to such machine instead of trying to add security features to an inherently dangerous system, we must build nanobots that are naturally failsafe well, that's a downside we're trying to avoid that. >> i think we will, but i mean, there are downsides, everything. but see here's that. i mean, we've had atomic weapons really since i was a small child, we'd actually get under our desk, put our hands behind our head protect us from a nuclear war. i remember and i don't worked okay. but that was so far so far? yes. because of something called mutually assured destruction. i don't know if we have that here. see when you say instead of building a security features, we must only build nanobots that are, that are fail-safe we, i think you're forgetting about bad guys, ray what about bad guys? they're is still bad guys out here. and before we merge with the cloud and become this great hybrid species, don't worry about the bad guys using this before we even get there too loosely and they're out there and they're causing problems but as we create these things, you're actually putting more effort into avoiding what bad guys will do to it. then we're actually creating this new capabilities so we're keeping up with them. but we constantly have to fight bad uses of these technologies and what about jobs? >> when everyone is living in the cloud? >> well, we've had that since three had the, the luddite movement 200 years ago we had the cotton jenny and other things i would eliminate jobs and people were very worried about that. and those jobs did go away. and we say what we're going to create new jobs and people said, well, what's new jobs? and you could say, well, you can be a social media influencer now we're just talking about right. but what jobs do you think? i mean, you're the great seer of the future? what, what jobs will be created by this it's not really us versus ai. >> we're going to merge our two. we're going to put ai inside our bodies and outside our bodies that we go through wireless communications to enhance ourselves so it's not going to be us versus ai. we're going to enhance our capabilities through an make yourselves much smarter than we are now so we'll be doing these jobs i'm anything that really turns you on will will be able to do because it will be that much smarter. well, speaking about how, how will this affect sex i mean, applause for the question yes, it will become better. become better yeah. >> i'm not sure if for everyone i mean can you describe ai sex? >> i mean, what we. just have. to. think about it. i know you said so much richer imagination, right but i know in the book you said some things that we do now. we're just going to have to think about i mean, you just use your talking about acting. he said, you know, if somebody has actually biden will have virtual reality, where you can go into something and it'll be just like real but it will be done within your mind. virtual reality will become that much more on enhancing then wound our bodies atrophy no. >> but we won't be limited to just one body. >> won't be limited to just one body yeah. i don't get it meaning you can i mean, in virtual reality today, you can have a different body than you are like an avatar yeah, but it can be very realistic i hope depends on your imagination. >> yeah. i mean i mean, i can't wrap my head around this. i don't even know if i want to live in this brave new world, but i get, but we're not going to have a choice. that's the thing. and of course, what i do hope i do like living. i do want to keep living. some people don't. there are lots of people who say, now, you know what they say, they don't want to live until they going to live past 95, 95, they don't want to die the next day exactly. >> right. and you think this will be able to i mean, i'm people only want to die if they're in terrible bright physics the gold emotional, spiritual otherwise, they want to continue regardless of what they said. 20 years earlier. all right. well, i hope i have you back on their own when 20 years from verbose scale an unprecedented debate as only cnn could do it with a record audience around the world. >> our country is being destroyed, where are the most admired country? 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>> if you look closely around the bag, you'll find a clue as to where these delicious pistachios are from well-done sherlock, you found it wonderful pistachios are the pistachios are wonderful, but the word wonderful on them weeknight today. tonight are 360 new reporting to get the full story. >> the will to fight how important is that? be? the afraid you have reasonable grounds to believe that alleged war crimes have been committed have compassion. let's real trauma. would you have been through seek truth? is israel in full control of its territory? >> go with a search for answers takes you anderson cooper 360 weeknight today on cnn celebrate, go forwards in america thursday, july 4, x 70s dirt on cnn all right here's here's the legendary broadcast are in generals who wrote this country, my life and pollux and hit politics and history chris matthews is hawaii four term congresswoman who now serves as a lieutenant colonel in the u.s. army reserve and is the author of for a love of country leave, the democrat party behind tulsi gabbard, great to have you back i got to tell you always have to book the panel a little bit in advance because people have to fly it and so forth. i can think of a better panel for tonight, chris, first of all missed you so much on tv for just days like this i'm dying to know you're feeling about last night as you ran for president as a democrat last time, you feel you got smeared, but you have a case four. and so i'm just done it on your feelings, like your real feelings about this, but let's just start with this. okay. we have to biden voters here. i think i mean, i've said before, i will vote for his head in a jar or a blue liquid and after last night time to get the jar but i know you're not a biden order, but just pretend that you are for a minute just for the sake of the party what should they do replace biden or not? yes or no? >> the problem is, it's his decision. yeah. he's got all the delegates or confirmed. there's nothing my head between here and the convention. what should you advocate the democratic party to do? i advocate for them and i said it nine months ago when with my editorial called ruth bader biden step down that's my position that some people's positions de i think i just heard before i went on that the new york times editorial board yes. asking him to step down and then there's other people. i heard all the surrogates last night. obama gave gavin newsom to know, stick with the guy what should they do? i say quit. i said a long time ago and now i think it's absolutely a parent that is the only one so he and dr biden decide they're going to quit. they're going to walk out, give it to somebody else who gets it. >> okay. let's go through that scenario. well, first of all, what's your take on this? >> i think it doesn't make a difference, quite frankly if you look at joe biden's policies and you look at the prospect of any one of the number of people who could replace him should he decide to walk away? and i agree with chris, it is his decision ultimately, all of these different policies that have been destructive to our country will continue so all this attention that's focused around, okay, we'll should he stay should he go to me, frankly, deflects away from the substantive policy centered conversation we should be having as a country, as people look at this choice, they have to make. well, we should, but let's not pretend. let's not pretend that this country is falling apart or that joe biden cause it to fall apart. he actually didn't do a terrible job bob at all. and a lot of things he did have helped this country. we came through the pandemic better than any other country in the world. we're not in any sort of depression or even recession. the stock market is through the roof. people aren't like dying in the streets, are you kidding? yes, we have problems like every country has problems but a different candidate would make a huge difference. i think. here's from last night, the flash poll afterwards, trump, they said 167 to 33, 33. that number rings in my mind because you know what that number is that's the number you always see very close, 333432 the people who are just always with their party, right? i mean, that is mrs. gerbils in the bunker number i mean, you swim in, it kills our kids rather than live in a world without national socialists. exactly got it right you see it on the right? they used to call them berkshire's berthier's tea party, whatever you magen nation, whatever, they never move. and now i feel like that's a third of the democrats who like they're going to stick with this guy and they are going to regret it. he is going to lose. i said at nine months ago, i'm saying it again tonight. uh, now it seems like its so apparent why real-world outside of the biden world it's clear to me that another candidate like newsom, the governor of california could have the dynamic to move from june right now to november and build up support to match trump's and baby overtake him. he could change the whole situation. absolutely the way it is it's a party of center-left and left if he does that, kamala harris, people go wait a minute. >> i'm next. and he'll say you're right, you are next because that's what he's saying right now. and that's the problem. >> but here's the great thing about newsom. mr. candidate. she can't be as vice president no. president. you can't be. oh, that's the problem. and that the promised team i'm not sure that's even that big a problem for the democrats people at the end of the day want to win. here's what's going to no, i don't want to show a lot of the tape from last night because it's too hard to look at what you show this one thing we picked out, one thing, big diff for people who don't watch and they watch this show to catch up on the nose. this is what the republican going to show from now until election day making sure that we're able to make every single solitary person eligible for what i've been able to do. it the covid excuse me, with dealing with everything. >> we have to do with if we finally beat medicare. >> thank you, president biden, president trump or he's right. >> he did beat medicare, beat it to death the way he turned that head, he wanted he knew the two shot would be up there. he wanted to have his head turning like, let's watch the guy show how crazy is he's, he's looking forward. like this is this election, you're blaming that on trump now, and i'm watching this theatrical ability. he is playing this, okay. but he didn't have to do anything. i mean, he came it reminded me of when mike tyson used to knock guys out 90 seconds. like that was like two minutes into the debate. i went, oh, this election is over. i mean, that was like a homemaker the right a look at the watch. the guy. he is so fast on the trigger. i watched him. he comes up with well, he told out of afghanistan and a disastrous way that's true. he didn't fire anybody, he didn't fire jake tapper at any the generals. that's all true. then it'll throw in, oh, by the way, illegal people can get medicare and social security. now they can't he just frozen the lies. he mixes up the lives with some truth then both obama i'm sorry. i missed that smart to keep up with them. he just playing around with it. well, that's isn't that the whole point? yes. you need a guy to keep up with them i feel like the whole rationale for biden running has always been on the only guy who can beat him yeah. now i think it's inverted. i think he's the only guy who could lo