golf, but need 775, 383882, or visit home served.com. inside politics sunday with manu raju and you next on cnn digging in when you get knocked down, you get back president faces calls to drop out. i know i'm not a young man. >> his democrats, he's have questions. if you think there should be a new candidate while trump masks in the fall lot, did anybody last night watch a thing called the debate? in repeats falsehoods to pollsters help us break down the aftermath. plus supreme suspense of major decision looms. you have to have a guaranteed immunity for president. otherwise have president is not going to be able to function while each trump elide reddy's for prison inside politics, best reporting from inside the corridors of power starts now good morning welcome inside politics sunday. >> manu raju, president joe biden and his team spent the weekend in a full-blown efforts to contain the damage to his candidacy from thursday's cnn debate. performance, many in his own party called disastrous as a fear could lead to a donald trump victory in november but despite the growing calls for the 81-year-old incumbent to drop out of the race to give the party some time to find a new candidate, had a democratic convention in august biden and his team signaled he was not going anywhere as they aggressively tried to tamp down the push for a replacement this morning, the present is with his family at camp david, and yesterday he told big donors in new jersey, quote, it wasn't my best debate. i understand the concern. i get it, but i'm going to be fighting harder. and in the hamptons, he also said at the fundraiser, quote, voters had a different reaction to the debate. and quote, i didn't have a great debate and great night, but neither did trump. now, democrats are assessing the fallout, even as the drumbeat for biden and dropout is getting louder, including from editorial board's, the new york times, the atlanta journal constitution, chicago tribune, and big name commentators like maureen dowd, tom friedman, and david ram neck but so far publicly elected democrats are still standing by him the best candidate for you guys. >> i think so. i think tumbled is way through 90 minutes, can barely answer some questions for he started off very slowly, but he picked up this pace joe biden beat donald trump before, and joe biden can beat donald trump again. there's no possibility of removing him. now, why we move forward, he's are nominee. i support president. you don't think you'd be better off for the better candidate? absolutely not. >> i'm terrified, but the fact that this man can lie for 90 minutes and show that he does not have a moral compass at all. that is what is terrifying me this morning. but that's all i have to say. >> i'm carson balance at the end that i was speaking about former president trump. now a lot to break down this morning with my grade panel. cnn's jeff zeleny, leah, and caldwell, the washington post band balls, also with a post. and npr's michel martin. good morning to you all. it has been a weekend for the precedents to say the least now we know the present is with his family at camp david, and we know this drumbeat of public pressure is growing from the outside. geoff, you talked to the biden campaign pretty regularly. is this having any impact on the present these calls for him to drop out from the likes of big name column from the new york times editorial board is that affecting his calculus at all in any way? well, this morning sunday, you said he's meeting with his family at camp david. >> that is a pre planned meeting. they're actually doing a photo shoot this afternoon. we're told with any liebowitz, so it's not an emergency family meeting, but of course this will come up. how could it not? but based on all of our reporting, all of our conversations since over the weekend, we do not know how it's affecting the president's mindset obviously, this is not helpful, but in terms of what he's planning to do he is all in and that does not appear to have changed, but the waves of panic that we're really still are coursing through the party. have now given way to a couple of questions. and the democratic pollsters are working this weekend for the campaign to try and find them out. a. is he going to be a drag on the ticket in house races, in senate races, b is our his troubles going to expand the battleground map is donald trump suddenly in a more of a strong position in a state like minnesota we're virginia, could those be battlegrounds? but the biggest question of all, if not him at the top of the ticket, then who yeah, one top democrat told me yesterday a true succession plan does not exist. that's what makes all of this not just heartbreaking, but very problematic. and that was it succinctly absolutely. and then you wrote but there's the postdoc yesterday, just about trying to how they want you compare this to back what happened after lyndon johnson step down and then they scrambled. and what happened there? the republicans winning the white house, but what's interesting is that as this is how the biden campaign is messaging that talk about a replacement write down as they try to tamp down all the talk that perhaps someone could step in. this is an email that went out to some porters last night, rob flaherty that biden deputy campaign manager, said, joe biden is going to be the democratic nominee period, end of story. if you were to drop out, it would lead two weeks of chaos internal food by adding in a bunch to candidates who limp into a brutal floor fight. at the convention that's exactly the message that they're trying to drive home publicly and privately but in addition to that public effort that they're doing, they have been doing an enormous amount of outreach and hand-holding. >> and if you will, temperature taking among people who might be potential successors. if the democrats decide they want to do it. the reality is the process would be very, very difficult. i mean, i think if if he were to voluntarily step aside, my guess is that he would say vice president harris should be the nominee then the question is, do others go after that? do others try to take her down? there right? in the sense that this would be a very messy situation. and i think that the other reality is that all of the people who we've talked about as potentials and mostly it's some prominent governors, governor newsom or governor whitmer or governor pritzker or shapiro these are not people who are well-known nationally. they've not been vetted nationally, they're not prepared to suddenly run a big presidential campaigns. so there would be enormous risks beyond the whole obstacles of the process. yes, there would be enormous risks of swapping him out but the other thing that i've picked up in the last 36 hours is while people recognize the campaign's argument, there is a tremendous amount of anger about the situation that the party is now. >> a lot of the guys biden decided to run at this age you mentioned about the fact that there are these other candidates who could run in the qur'an, but they're not well known. and that is something that the biden campaign is actually trying to hammer home and a pretty extraordinary email that same message i want to support his last night, they talked about the democratic bench. the other people could potentially replace him. they shared some democratic polling data showing that people even the vice president of the united states, they contend would not do better than joe biden. is that a ria, is that the reality of the situation? one of the things that's really struck me about this campaign all along is how they are really two campaigns or there should be, i mean, there's the campaign to people who pay attention. there's the campaign directed that the people who don't we're all aware of the people who pay close attention. and when we know that the polling shows, there's an enthusiasm gap that trump's supporters are really behind him and biden supporters are sort of behind him. but what's really shocking to me when you sort of go out on the trail and you talk to people, is how many people don't really see a difference. they really don't they say things like well, i mean, i'm talking to say a muslim person who i know very well who said it's a difference between a person who wants to kill us and a person who will lead us die. and speaking about gaza with african-americans. so like what's the difference? he didn't really fight for us on certain key issues. i just think that it's i think that where instead of having trouble sort of locking in on how many people really, it's not that they haven't locked in yet, is that they really don't see the difference. two old white guys who don't really represent them, we see this particularly with younger voters, younger voters who say they're not excited about either one. and i just think that this campaign has to figure out how to deal with both of those campaigns the insiders who are really upset and angry and panicked and this big population of people, who don't, who aren't into him at all. this is a good point because the apathy in some ways has to be a bigger concern for the biden team because the trump base is energized, they're behind him. the democratic base is not voter apathy as michelle was talking about, is a real issue. >> it's absolutely an issue that's been an issue this entire campaign even before thursday night's debate. and it's not just voter apathy that they have to be worried about, but it's also a third party candidates that they have to be worried about in some states to rfk is still trying to get on some ballots, but the biden campaign has of late been more worried about jill jill stein lately because she is on more state. so it's not of his voter apathy. it's now people well who are now seriously perhaps looking at a third-party candidate more seriously than they were before the third before thursday's debate obviously, we saw biden over the weekend. >> we exceed he was behind closed doors talking to donors. those are the people that do matter a lot. will they keep giving him money? this is a real virgin moment for biden, not just for the own party, but ensuring that he doesn't fall further behind on money as we've seen, the biden campaign has been behind him recently as trump has surged in money in terms of cash on hand in the aftermath of his conviction, trump, using that to rally his bayesian, his donor base but behind closed doors was an interesting tweet from one former trump aide at the square muji, who is talking to who was at this long island fundraiser. he said, president biden needs to appear unscripted settings and handle fair but tough questioning further demonstrations of his ability to read from a teleprompter will not assuage my concerns. scaramucci supports biden now, he was at that fundraiser. he heard biden by ms trying to show that he this is a problem with the debate. i get it, but i can do this. i can handle it, but what scaramucci saying here is that you can do it in an unscripted setting. and we have not seen that from the president. yeah, we certainly haven't. and the question of all of this is it's really takes it back to this conversation, back several months the biden campaign, i think the president himself largely had cleared the hurdle from the state of the union onward. i guess maybe he can do this. he gave a long speech then some back-and-forth. it was not unscripted. i mean, it was scripted, but he's had a few scripted moments, but the reality is the biden we saw thursday night is largely closer to the biden. we see every day at the white house so that is the challenge that they have something else. and this is again, all this criticism is coming from people who generally like president biden, from the inside, but someone told me when they made the decision to run in november 2022, in nantucket that weekend, the bidens got together after the midterm. he's diminished considerably since then his or his age since then, and perhaps even since the state of the union so that as the big unknown here and the risks, i mean basically going in one direction. so it's it's heartbreaking in the words of a biden adviser but he said he deserves our respect and space to reach a decision, but that's the bottom line. there. you biden and president biden, the only to people who could make do we think that jill biden is? hundred percent with this campaign at this moment and continuing on, there's no evidence to the contrary. i mean, everything that she has done since the debate, i think reinforces the idea that that she and he believed that they're going, they're going forward they're not going to get pushed out of this. they're not going to listen to people who say they should that he should step down she's totally behind him. i think she always has been but i think he too is dugin, the idea that he's still best able to carry this campaign forward. yeah. but the debate was a huge gamble, right? he wanted an early debate because they wanted to change the trajectory of the campaign. and i think the campaign believed that had he performed the way they hoped he would, they might be able to break this campaign open, wide open. we know this is going to be a close election, but move it in his direction. in a demonstrable way instead, they've, they've dug that hole deeper and they now got to come out of that and try to move forward where we shall see we're going to assess that of course, in the days i hadn't today as well. all right. coming up, some democrats are running from questions about biden quite literally willie drag them down in november. >> he can win life with a fib can mean a lifetime of blood thinners and if you're troubled by falls and bleeds, worry follows you everywhere over 400,000 people have left blood thinners behind with watchman watchmen is a safe, minimally invasive onetime implant that reduces stroke risk and bleeding worry for life watchmen it's one time for a lifetime three body serie a city client uses city's financial expertise to help drive its growth and keep it supply chain moving some more pet parents can get everything they need right when they need it. keeping more pets and families happy for the love of moving our clients forward, for the love of progress okay. everyone, our mission is to provide complete balanced nutrition or strength and energy ensure with 27 vitamins and minerals, nutrients it's for immune health and ensure complete with 30 grams of protein did you know sling has your favorite news programs for just $40 a month my favorite news for just $40 a month. >> my favorite for just $40 a news for $40 a month. sling lets you do that imagine a future where plastic is not wasted but instead remade over and over into the things that keep our food fresher our families safer and our planet cleaner to help us get there america's plastic makers are investing billions of dollars to create delete a products and new recycling technologies for sustainable change. >> because when you push for smarter solutions, week things can happen at fisher investments. >> we may look like other money managers, but were different now. so we're a fiduciary obligated to act in our client's best interests. so we don't sell any commission-based its products, then how do you make money? 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lot to get through fml. i don't need to spell that out. then there's the reaction from home. one told you for everyone has been loud and unanimous. now we go home and hear it in person on july 4 can't imagine he lasts i mean, the real fear is that he's going to sink the party and yeah, if there are concerns that he can print address the ticket that's on the calls for them to drop out will intensify absolutely. and we also have to watch polling to those could really intensify cause for him to drop out to but there's multiple concerns here. pete, these democrats obviously do not want donald trump to be the nominee. they think he's an existential threat to our democracy. but there so worried about their own races as well. i had heard from after the debate thursday night still into friday that there could be a group of democrats that would actually come forward and publicly and call for biden to drop out. i'm not sure where that stands now with as the biden campaign has been working adamantly to keep people on their side, but these democrats are absolutely worried. they, before this debate, they were already thinking that they were going to be the ones who are going to lift biden at the top of the ticket, usually the top of the ticket helps down-ballot democrats had been believing that they were going to help biden at the top of the ticket. and so now they are absolutely nervous about th