>> last minute snag delaying a deal. the temporary cease-fire expected to begin in the coming hours. qatar's foreign minister will give details any moment now. thank you for joining us. i'm griff jenkins. hay, julie. >> julie: i'm julie banderas. happy thanksgiving to you, griff. the agonizing wait continues for israeli families. they have spent six weeks hoping against hope that their loved ones will return home safely. >> griff: jeff paul kicks things off for us in southern israel. >> the israeli security forces here saying the first batch of hostages likely won't be coming out until friday at the earliest. it speaks to the complicated and dell indicate nature of the ongoing negotiations. because no hostages are coming out. no pause in the war especially for soldiers like the ones at the military base in southern israel. under the original agreement, between israel and hamas, they were going to probably have the first batch of hostages come out as soon as today. that would have been 10 to 12 people and more the following day totaling up to 50 women and children. now, israel would release 150 palestinian prisoners and agree to multiple pauses in the war. the temporary cease-fire allows aid to come into the civilians of gaza in desperate need of food, water and medical supplies as the war continues. negotiators in qatar say they're working to create the appropriate conditions for a pause and a swap of hostages and prisoners. idf says their mission in gaza to root out hamas will not come to an end. >> we are trying to connect the goals of the war so the pressure from the ground operation brings about the ability to also achieve the goal of this war, to create the conditions for the release of the abducted hostages. >> israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu spoke a short time ago and says he is still hopeful the first group of hostages will be coming out soon. the first of many, he hopes, to eventually bring them all home. griff and julie. >> griff: jeff paul, thank you. >> close the door to my car and about 30 feet from me i seen something airborne. i first thought it was an airplane. looked like slow motion. i said my god, it's a car. a vehicle and it's flying through the air. he hit the concrete barrier. >> julie: fire car crash kills two people and forces the closure of multiple border crossings. investigators don't know what caused it yet. they say there is no sign of terrorism being involved. let's bring in scott, a former atf deputy assistant director for intelligence and former f.b.i. deputy director. let me go ahead and ask you my first question. first of all, what does this look like to you? it was a husband and wife barreling at mack ten speed toward the bridge. at first people were wondering if it was terrorism because it seemed suspicious. what's on your mind? >> good morning, julie. happy thanksgiving. when i first saw this, it took a little bit of time for the fog of war to lift but it was pretty apparent to me early on that this was not a vehicle born ied. not a car bomb, in other words. the damage just wasn't consistent with that. but you had an awful lot of fire and it was also pretty obvious when the good pictures came in the car disintegrated upon hitting that reinforced concrete. >> julie: it looks like an intentional act to me. it was a husband and wife. does anything come to mind in the onset of the investigation such as a murder/suicide or something different? >> so when you have an incident that's occurring on a government facility on the day that's very sensitive and the f.b.i. has already put out bulletins warning about this, the first thing that you are going to think is that it could be terrorism. you aren't wrong for thinking that but you also don't want to go into a scene pre-disposed thinking that it was something. you have to really let the evidence speak and i think once that car is gone through, once the mobile devices of these people are gone through, they already know who these people are, they knew it within a short amount of time, they can pretty quickly figure out if this was something that was potentially intentional or if it was just a horrible, horrible accident because the person was driving like a maniac. >> julie: you look at this and say hypothetically speaking had it been terror how do you prevent something like this? unlike, you know, rockets coming into the airspace, we have a missile defense system for example. when you have a car that could be packed with explosives barreling toward a bridge or any entry into the united states, how is it that you could even stop something like this? >> basically all you can do is have hard physical barriers. the facility that i used to work in, for instance, the terrorist explosive device analytical center we had substantial barriers. there are barriers on a military base. when you have a customs chec checkpoint, you are trying to get cars through as quickly as possible to not disrupt lives and commerce. only so much you can do. you have to have layered physical security to prevent this and don't forget, there have been incidents at borders before. you had the millennial bomber who was caught at a northern border. so people are on edge and they are trying to do their best to keep us all safe on a major holiday. >> julie: what does it tell you about travel on thanksgiving? tensions are very high in the country now with the anti-semitism that's been happening and the protesting all over the country. so something like this obviously has law enforcement on the lookout at the edge of their seats. what does it say about our nation's security and our travel and what people should be aware of when they head out today on thanksgiving? >> i just actually got off an airplane flight. out in arizona visiting family and it's very, very difficult. people are already stressed when they are flying but we shouldn't forget that behind the scenes, invisible to us as well as the visible security, you have a lot of men and women that work for dhs, work for state and local law enforcement and the justice department, my old agency, that are having their holidays pretty well messed up so they can keep everyone safe. it's not a riskless thing traveling nowadays and a very dangerous world as you pointed out. there are a lot of people trying to keep us safe so that we can all go home and have a turkey dinner with our friends when they can. >> julie: to be reminded of the fact that this is an isolated incident, of course, unfortunately overall everything has been going pretty smoothly on this thanksgiving so far. scott, thank you for talking to us. happy thanksgiving to you. >> thank you. >> griff: the deadly car explosion you were talking about at the u.s./canada borders and increase for calls for violence leading new york city to remain on high alert. security is extra tight at the annual macy's day thanksgiving parade where an anti-israel protest is expected to begin along the route in less than two hours. alexis mcadams is live in new york city for us. >> good morning. there are thousands of people out here already. check it out behind me in new york city in front of fox news headquarters. a lot of excitement as we wait to see the floats come by during the macy's thanksgiving day parade. along with that excitement there is still concern as massive crowds have law enforcement mixed in and remain on high alert. >> any measures you will see like uniformed officers on post on and around the parade route and other measures that you won't see. >> those preps for the 97th annual macy's day parade is done and time to see the floats go by. 12 marching bands from across the country will be here as the nypd remains on high alert . no specific threats to the parade but during this israel/hamas war it has created what federal authorities are calling a heightened threat environment. they want to keep everyone safe. a live look before the floats come by we show you the crowds. you can see there are lots of crowds lined up around the parade route in new york city. 3 1/2 million people will watch the parade in person along the 2 1/2 mile route. one planned protest in support of the palestinian people today. we are used to seeing that in new york city. it starts with dozens and climbs to the hundred. calling of people to show up and call for a cease-fire. the city is aware of it and prepared to handle it. watch. >> we won't tolerate any disruption. we're very clear on that. you aren't going to destroy property, you are not going to injure people. that's not going to happen in this city. but, you know, we are prepared to deal with a multitude of things taking place at one time. we are used to doing it. >> police department does it very well. you won't see some officers in plain clothes mixed in with the crowd. the idea is to keep everyone safe as we enjoy the thanksgiving day parade. >> griff: nobody does it better than the nypd. alexis, thank you. >> you can't trust hamas. you saw what they did on october 7th. it's a culture of death. i think they are enjoying the emotional blackmail they are inflicting upon the families and the entire nation of israel. >> julie: a temporary truce still up in the air. israel continues to root out hamas terrorists in gaza so could a pause to free hostages also help the terror group? we're getting new information and we'll bring it to you coming up. stay right there. thanksgiving kicks off the holiday shopping season. americans are feeling a disconnect when it comes to spending and the economy. that spells bad news for president biden. stay with us. >> i'm here in poland wishing my family and friends back in maine a happy holidays. released around 4:00 p.m. of the same day. they will be 13 in number, all women and children, and those hostages from the same families will be put together within the same patch. obviously every day will include a number of civilians as agreed. the total 50 within the four days. the communications that took place and the meetings that took place all through yesterday went on until early morning today with the egyptians and the parties of the conflict present here in doha. the meetings went very well and positive environment and the results, of course, was the implementation plan of the agreement which needed to be something that is concrete and ready to create a safe environment for the release of the hostages. this is what i have here information for you right now and i will be taking questions. >> speaking native language. >> julie: qatar's prime minister speaking live in doha trying to lay out the way the foreign minister is speaking about how they plan on laying out this hostage release. so basically it will go over a four-day period and start friday morning at 7:00 a.m. they will start with 13 women and children. total number of hostages qatar was behind facilitating this negotiation between israel and gaza. the first batch will be 13 women and children and then over the course of four days they will ultimately release all 50 hostages. in exchange for 150 palestinian prisoners. that is something that seems to be a bit uneven but nonetheless at least some hostages will be released and they're doing it in a slow trickle, i would assume, in order to make sure that gaza and hamas holds up their end of the deal. we'll continue to watch this breaking news as it happens. >> now we're under gaza's al-shifa hospital complex. the tunnels the israelis say hamas used to move weapons and fighters. the clay beneath the hospital is what hamas was digging through when they built these tunnels. >> julie: trey yengst with israeli troops getting an inside look at the complex look at tunnels underneath gaza. the tunnel system they found under the shifa hospital is just the tip of the iceberg. the idf's raid of the hospital facing intense scrutiny. idf rear admiral is responding to that. >> israeli military has faced criticism for raiding gaza's al-shifa hospital. with what you found was it worth it? >> it was a professional operation. we're now seven days here. not a single shot was fired inside the hospital hitting a doctor or a patient or a civilian, not one. >> julie: military officials say they found a weapons cache in an mri room and at least one car fully loaded with weapons they believe was designed to be part of the october 7th massacre. >> netanyahu is in between a rock and hard place here. he has to listen to the families. he has got to keep the pressure on hamas and he is trying to thread the needle here with this exchange. we know that hamas is going to rearm, refit, rest and try to figure out a new strategy. >> griff: an army general on the dangers of a cease-fire between israel and hamas. israelis are eagerly awaiting to hear whether their family members will be among the 50 hostages hamas releases. marine corps veteran and save our allies joins me now. chad, happy thanksgiving. good news for many of those anxious families. what do you make of what we're hearing from qatar's foreign minister there? >> any time that we will have hostages released it's good news. what everybody needs to realize and you reported it well, it isn't a peace deal to stop the war between israel and palestinian, a four day cease-fire to exchange hostages. 50 israelis, 150 palestinians. hamas is using this as an opportunity to restrategize. i don't think they really care about exchanging hostages. they want an opportunity for a pause to restrategize. israel can't allow hamas to call the shots in this negotiation. they don't have leverage unless netanyahu gives it to them. you can't let them restrategize for another attack. >> griff: here is john kirby talking a little bit about the hostages and mentioning that pause. take a listen here. >> in the next day or so we'll start to see them be reunited with their families. this deal will allow for a pause in the fighting for something like four days, maybe longer, we'll see. >> griff: what do you make of the video kirby selling to the american people this idea of the pause but as you point out, tactically from a military standpoint and with the end goal being the removal and eradication of hamas it makes it very complicated. >> yeah, look. i've been involved in combat fighting my whole life. one thing i know about combat is when you have the enemy on their heels, you don't let up and you don't really pressure. you want this thing to -- war is ugly, no one who has been in war wants war, if you do it, you do it to win. a lesson that i think our administration should learn. if we go to war, you go to war to win. any kind of pause in that pressure is not a good thing. it is a bad thing. more lives are going to be taken because of the fact that now you have the force of the enemy having a sense of strength and fighting back. i don't agree with him and i don't agree with kirby on much but i don't agree with him on that. you have to keep pressure on hamas to get them back down. >> griff: thank you for your service. the u.s. is not drawn into this. we have carrier strike groups in the neighborhood. but one column in the "wall street journal" caught our eyes here and i will put it up for you. the headline is the hostage deal means israel is fighting the clock. israel needs time to root out hamas. the longer the war goes on the more likely it is to spiral into a regional conflict drawing in the u.s. how concerned are you that america gets brought into this? >> well, this is why america -- israel is our greatest ally in the middle east. we have to support them. israel is capable of handling this with the right support and that's why it is important that this isn't drawn out and to have someone like john kirby saying that, you know, this is a good thing for four days. you don't want it to drag out. for some reason this administration is choosing to let things drag out. ukraine is a great example. ukraine could be over in a week or two weeks but they want it to drag out. if we let this thing drag out in the middle east, yeah, it could drag the united states into not just supporting israel but into a war. we see rockets being shot at u.s. warships right now. >> griff:, thank you. we want to listen to the foreign minister speaking again about the hostages in qatar. >> we expect it to happen also on the israeli side. >> tomorrow? you are expecting a release tomorrow? >> as a result of the release of hostages. >> thank you. >> thank you. i wanted to ask about the red cross, red crescent. will they be accompanying the hostages out or throughout gaza or are they meeting them at the edge of gaza? and will they be able to visit the hostages that aren't being released? that was being discussed. just to follow on becky's question, have specific evacuation routes been set and you can't talk about them and without compromising and without sharing too much detail will hostages be leaving directly into israel or potentially through rafah and then home to israel? >> regarding the red cross and red crescent, they have been designated to receive the hostages. i can't discuss the details of how it will happen or where they will take them. but as i said they are part of the operation that is run from here in doha and they will take the responsibility there and we appreciate all the work they are doing and that they are taking a risk with their own staff but they will be take a part of doing the hostages. i can't get into the details of that or where they will be leaving or where they will be coming out. i think a lot of things on the ground will affect this. the important thing is that we maintain a very key line of communication with everybody through the operation to make sure that the environment which the hostage transfer will happen will be safe and guarantee the safety to get them to their families. i don't have an update on this right now, i'm sorry. [speaking native language] >> [speaking native language] >> griff: you've been listening to the spokesman for qatar's foreign minister there giving us more details of the hostage release learning that the red crescent, which is the red cross, will receive them. no answers on whether or not red cross would be able to visit some of the other hostages not being released but we do know at least 13 expected to be released at midnight our time, 7:00 a.m. local there. we'll bring you more as we get it. julie. >> julie: if you stop at the atm for cash during your holiday shopping, many of us will do that, police are warning you, listen to this to be on the lookout for what they are calling bank juging robberies when thieves follow a person who has made a large withdrawal while another crook is at the ready to steal the cash. christina coleman is live in the los angeles bureau with what you need to know. >> it's a very disturbing trend. police say bank juging incidents are on the rise in southern california. organized groups of thieves follow people leaving banks with large amounts of cash, find a way to distract them and steal their purse, wallet or other belongings. a woman was robbed of $20,000 she had just withdrawn from a local bank to purchase a new home. they say a group of thieves followed her from the bank to a mall in riverside county southeast of l.a. according to officers one of the thieves placed a $5 bill behind the car and when she went to look someone from the group of thieves stole her purse from the front seat of her car. police are searching for the suspects. the city of you are vine alone in orange county there has been at least 24 bank juging incidents this year. >> even when you are at an atm, we just had made an arrest last week of two -- of these eastern europey an criminals that were putting skimming devices on atms and they got out of two victims over $10,000. so they are watching you. >> organized retail crime a big problem in california especially during the holidays. governor newsom recently announced the state will invest over $267 mil