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>> phenomena. >> they call him the evidence whisper. ♪♪ >> hello. the college student vanished after a night out clubbing. nancy thought she was out sleeping with friends. it would take years for detectives to uncover the truth buried in a pile of lies but could they find lynsie. here is the night lynsie disappears. >> reporter: sometimes the facts are as clear as the southern california skies. other times you have to know where to look to see the truth. this man has made a career of noticing what others do not. >> what's his reputation? >> meticulous investigator. >> pouring over the volume of evidence and finding things that other investigators did not find. the evidence whisperer? >> yep. >> reporter: does this man acts guilty or does he know more than what he's saying? what about this man, can you believe the story he's telling. >> i was supposed to pick her up twice, she was so out of character and did not show up either day. >> reporter: the evidence whisperer were not present on either interview. watching them helps him solve the evidence. >> lynsie was the youngest of three. her mother nancy says he was always there. lynsie had a passion for animals. kim davidson remembers young lynsie has a compassion. >> i was freezing cold and a sweater came up around me and it was lynsie. she gave back in other ways. she struggles with her own disabilities, her left arm was paralyzed and left legs impaired. >> did she talk about how she became disabled? >> she brought it up to me that she was thrown as a little girl, very little. >> reporter: lynsie needed so much care and her mother was with lynsie like a shadow. >> in my life to make her as normal as she could be. >> reporter: by the time kim met lynsie, she remembers a tight family unit of just two. >> reporter: how close were lynsie and nancy? >> as lynsie reached adolescence, she changed the spelling of her name from this to this. after so many years of mom and daughter being each other's best friend, lynsie began to keep something in her life to herself like where she really headed one night in february of 2001. >> reporter: does it make sense she would lie to you of what she's going to do that night? >> i never known her to lie to me but you don't know what you don't know. >> reporter: she told her mom instead of their usual friday night dinner, she was staying with a friend named andrea. someone nancy never met and a young man named chris came to the door to pick lynsie up. >> reporter: she introduced you to this guy named chris. did he say hello to you? >> yes. >> i had a feeling about him. >> reporter: nancy spent so many years worrying about lynsie, it was a struggle to let go but she did. >> the last thing i said was remember your seat belt and she looks over and said back at you mom, love you. >> reporter: nancy locked up the house and went up to bed. the next day lynsie was supposed to call after she was done tutoring two girls from the neighborhood. when the call never came lynsie drove over and found out she was not at her job. >> all of a sudden she was not where she's supposed to be. >> reporter: nancy was frantic. i started calling the hospital and called the morgue, i wanted to see if there is a jane doe in the morgue. >> reporter: there was no jane doe. most people who disappear like that, they come back in a couple of days. >> if not 24 hours, yes. >> reporter: careen lumis, detective of the police department. >> reporter: you checked the e.r.? >> we checked everything. there were no signs as if she vanished. >> reporter: coming up. >> a week ago. >> reporter: when "dateline" continues. n "dateline" continues. when eye allergens attack, the itch can last 24 hours. but with pataday once daily relief extra strength you get fast, 24-hour relief in one drop. make it a pataday with the drop that's right for you. now without a prescription. everywhere. these are real people, not actors, who've got their eczema under control. with less eczema, you can show more skin. so roll up those sleeves. and help heal your skin from within with dupixent. dupixent is the first treatment of its kind that continuously treats moderate-to-severe eczema, or atopic dermatitis, even between flare ups. dupixent is a biologic, and not a cream or steroid. many people taking dupixent saw clear or almost clear skin, and, had significantly less itch. don't use if you're allergic to dupixent. serious allergic reactions can occur, including anaphylaxis, which is severe. tell your doctor about new or worsening eye problems, such as eye pain or vision changes, or a parasitic infection. if you take asthma medicines, don't change or stop them without talking to your doctor. so help heal your skin from within, and talk to your eczema specialist about dupixent. if your financial situation has changed, we may be able to help. i'll be observing your safe-driving abilities. play your cards right, and you could be in for a tasty discount. 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>> we did look at lynsie's mother. we have to. >> i made cookies. >> reporter: the cops were not coming with a coffee. they arrived with a search warrant and shovel and dogs. >> i didn't know what a search warrant was. the house nancy and lynsie once shared was torn apart. i don't know if nancy was on the radar for the long time. it was long enough to be able to set her aside. >> reporter: after that search they did just that. they believe this anguished mother had nothing to do. they took nancy off the list and nancy's boyfriend. he had an alibi putting him some where else at the time lynsie went missing. that left just two. >> i have not seen her since that day, marty, police did not trust because of his secret relationship and he lied about his identity and the man who dropped lynsie off at that quarter. the last person to see her before she vanished. chris mcamis. april 2002, more than a year after lynsie went missing, detectives decided to start over, they brought chris mcamis back to see if his story still held up. >> police turned up the heat. >> reporter: police thought chris seemed oddly calm talking about a calm who may have been murdered. >> if it turns out somebody killed her -- find them. >> reporter: that's as strong as we can get out of him? >> that's as strong as we can get out of him. >> i personally executed. she was my friend, there was nothing. >> reporter: his lack of emotions suggested that chris should move to the top of the list. but, it was not evidence. after the interview chris mcamis was free to leave. detectives were not closer to learn what happened to lynsie ekelund and neither is nancy. you thought one day she would walk back through the door? >> yes. >> reporter: she believed it because she wanted to and because over the years several people have told her they seen lynsie. >> they never saw the front of her face, they saw the back of her and ill held onto every word they said. >> reporter: it was torture for nancy no matter what word of events. >> reporter: nancy feels -- >> nancy was pretty angry, we have worked this case diigently and at some point you hit the wall. >> reporter: at the time nine detectives working on everything, drugs, gangs and cold cases. 2008, detectives pd would hit that wall. they needed larry. >> reporter: tell me about larry. >> he's phenomenal. >> reporter: because he sees things other cops don't see. >> because he sees things, cops don't see. i don't know anybody could have done a better job than larry. >> reporter: the evidence whisper was about to listen to the facts of this case were saying. >> was there something police have missed? 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