national tour to tout the package, and making big promises for the days ahead. >> over the next ten days, we will reach two goals. two giant goals. the first, 100 million shots in people's arms will have been completed within the next ten days. and 100 million checks in people's pockets in the next 100 days. shots in arms and money in pockets. that's important. the american rescue plan is already doing what it was designed to do -- make a difference in people's everyday lives. >> for some americans, the relief was immediate, with checks hitting their bank accounts over the weekend. but challenges remain to ensure that aid is properly implemented for americans. for them, this aid could not some soon enough. but try and tell that to the big banks, some of which are holding the checks, even though the funds have already been deposited. and others could face check cashing fees, and the irs is cranking out the stimulus checks, which causes delays in tax refunds. joining me now, the one person we know has a plan for that, senator elizabeth warren. thanks so much for being here. you left me in a crying, blubbering mess last week when you were talking about your brother last week. thank you for telling that story. it was really beautiful. >> oh, thank you. >> i wanted to give you a quick moment. of course, i wanted to give you a moment to big up deb holland, your campaign co-chair. she's now interior secretary. what does that mean? >> when you talk about something being historic, that's what this is. obviously. the first native woman to hold a position like this in a cabinet and to be head of the interior department. that did so much through the generations to try to undercut the strength, the health, the survival of the tribal nations. and now, it's not just deb being there. this is not simply about having a figurehead. this is about having someone who has this moment where she actually can reset the relationship between the united states and the tribal nations. a woman who down to her toes believes in making our lands work and preserving them for generations and generations to come. you know, deb speaks of herself and always talks about how she is a 35th-generation new mexican. 35 generations of her people have lived on those lands. which says a lot about how she'll think about the public lands, how she will think about how we build a future that is not sustainable over a month or a year, but how it's sustainable for generations to come. i love it. and i love deb. >> well, i am glad you said the word sustainable. i'm so glad you were available to talk to tonight. all weekend, people were tagging me and you on some of the same tweets. because when you talk about sustainability, this 1.9 $1.9 trillion is huge. and some of the sort of catch for a lot of people who are not high income is either they're banking with a bank that is not giving them their money, including chase and wells fargo, who are holding the stimulus checks, they have a policy not to release it. back in the day, i remember waiting for a check to clear. it can feel like forever. and the other institutions are charging check cashing fees, which will eat away the money. people were tweeting us and saying, how is that legal. so my question is, how is that legal? >> it's legal because the big banks call the shots in washington. and that's how the regulations have remained. so we have two responses to this. number one, fix it yourself. change your bank. ask this question about how quick they'll give credit. go to a credit union, a member-owned credit union, you can make a real difference. go to a local bank that says i will give you credit. that's number one. and number two, it's on us in washington, on the bank regulators. we need to force these banks to give quicker credit on checks. that would be one of the most helpful things we could do. for middle class families, for working class families, and for poor families. let's do it in washington, but you do it at home. >> that's some good advice. i know online banks are sort of making that pitch as well. the other big issue when it comes to big change, and you talked a lot when you were running for president, you always talk about big, structural change. for a lot of people, the one thing that didn't make it in the bill that people wanted and needed was the $15 an hour minimum wage. when you net that out per month and per year, it's not a lot of money, even if we got that. to get that, you would have to get through joe manchin, who says he's never going to let go of the filibuster. is there anything we can do? there are so many big bills wants to get through, hr-1, and others. if we're not going to get rid of the filibuster, then what? >> well, joy, you've put it exactly right. our problem is not just the $15 an hour minimum wage. our problem is the filibuster. because it blocks us on everything that doesn't fit through, everyone had to learn the word last week, reconciliation, right? >> yes. >> so if we really want to make changes to protect the vote, on gun safety, on immigration, on child care, we have got to deal with the filibuster. here's the good news. democrats know that. the discussions are now going on, on our side, about what we can do. now, you know where i am and where i've been for a long time. we just need to pitch the thing out. it was born of racism, and a way to try to keep the south happy, the southern senators, by giving them extraordinary power. to be able to block any civil rights legislation or any anti-lynching legislation. that's what it was used for, up until the mid-1960s. now, mcconnell and the republicans have resuscitated it with a vengeance. that means it is on us to stop this. we're in washington to fulfill our promises to the american people. to make this government work for them. not to give mitch mcconnell a veto. stay tuned. you know where i am in this fight. and nobody is giving up at this point. >> okay. that's good to hear. we hear of jeff merkley and yourself and others working on that. another issue, you talk about this a lot. again, structurally, the challenge with everything previous to this bill, democrats felt they had to build in lots of tax cuts. you have to make some of these tax credits permanent. you've also gone further than that. there needs to be a wealth tax on top. you were tweeting about it this weekend. this is janet yellen, it's a graphic. we're going to put it up. she expressed a little bit of skepticism. she said the president is still open to it. but even without one, wealthy americans will still face a tax hike. do you think it's possible when joe manchin exists? >> oh, yes, i do. let's remind everybody what the wealth tax is. that is, this is for fortunes bigger than $50 million. your first $50 million is free and clear, but after that, you pay two cents on every dollar of wealth above that, until you hit a billion, then it would be a little more. that would be a way to raise about $3 trillion in revenue. keep in mind, joe biden ran on raising taxes on the people at the very top and on giant corporations. taxes wouldn't go up on a wealth tax for 99.9% of americans. you just can't do much better on raising taxes. only for those at the top. there's not another plan on the table that says that. so i think this is in line with what joe biden ran on. and i think it would be good for america. so i'm feeling good about this one. >> you know, i feel like the media cares a lot more about bipartisanship than regular people. if you ask people, what are their priorpriorities, it proba never makes the list. but it's a thing that is floating out there. we need to talk about where republicans are on things, sometimes. there were republicans talking about repealing the wealth tax, so would it help the majority of people if we in the media weren't so focused on it, or does bipartisanship matter? >> i think we need to expand our vision of what constitutes bipartisanship. the american rescue plan, it was a deeply bipartisan plan. that is, it was supported by democrats, independents, and republicans across this nation. the one group that was out of step were republican elected officials in washington. they were the ones unanimously opposed for their own political reasons. the same thing is true on the wealth tax. the best polls i've seen show that the wealth tax is popular across america. and that means democrats, independents, and republicans. the question is, these guys in washington, who are elected officials, who are republicans, and they want to veto. why do they want to veto everything that comes through? they know there were good things in the american rescue plan. shoot, some of them tweeted about the good things, even though they voted against them. they know why the wealth tax is popular. the 99% paid 72% of their total wealth in taxes last year. the top paid 1%. but they're in the politics game of trying to set to veto everything that joe biden wants to do, just like they did to barack obama. we're not going to permit this. this goes right back to your question about the filibuster. i'm glad to have republicans join us. but they've got to be willing to come and get serious about legislation. not just to be there to try to block everything. >> and one more thing that i think is bipartisan, people want their mail. i've talked to a lot of people who are still getting things late. it's still very gummed up. louis dejoy thinks he's staying, but president biden has put in three nominees. he has enough where they could have a majority to get rid of dejoy. are we near the end of dejoy's tenure running the postal service? >> i hope so. it is time. we need our mail on time. that means we need to show dejoy the door. >> succinctly said. senator elizabeth warren, thank you for spending time this evening. thank you so much. coming up -- thank you. coming up next, california governor gavin newsom joins me. the surge in border crossings, the ease in covid restrictions, and how he's fighting back against a recall effort. plus, tonight's absolute worst was not even close. a senator blurts about exactly how he feels about black people. we just love the honesty. and republican voter suppression efforts are happening everywhere. but we'll talk about why the good guys may just be winning this war. 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[ bleep ]. >> while the state has seen both improvements and setbacks over the past year, they're now on a good path, with numbers of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths heading down. but governor gavin newsom is facing his sixth recall effort. an "l.a. times" investigation found that recall campaign leaders allied with radical and extreme elements early on to help collect signatures, including groups promoting distrust of government, science, and medicine. qanon conspiracists, and others. governor gavin newsom, thanks for joining us. i want to start where we end that open. we just saw the united states capitol besieged a couple of months ago by people representing the same collection of folks that you're now facing. how much is that impacting security in the california capitol? are you fearful that this group is not just interested in the politics of a recall, but could become as violent as they did in our nation's capitol? >> all of us are at heightened awareness and concern. all of this pre-dates the insurrection in january. we've been monitoring white supremacist groups in california for years and years. and there's a surprising number of them. a number of them like the proud boys, the 3%ers, and others, are behind the sixth recall effort in california. and we're just concerned about violence moving into the future, as we move farther and farther away from the january insurrection, we must remain vigilant about these groups, and how bent they are on doing what they can to promote their perspective. >> they dislike you, and they want you to be recalled. there have been six of these. california is sort of a nation-state, it's so big, and so incredibly diverse. on the side that is behind these recalls, what they were saying is, we're not -- those aren't our people. but we're willing to tolerate them. why should we kick them out? it's what you hear national republicans say about donald trump, and what they would say about groups like the proud boys nationally. i wonder if you think that, you know, trump actually turned out to have a pretty strong political pull, even though there are a lot of oddball people with him. what do you make of the recall, and whether or not it has a shot? vote to recall is only at 38%. it would need to get a lot higher. vote to keep, 42%. are you concerned about this, as a real political challenge to yourself, or what? >> yeah, i mean, look, we had a recent example in 2003, and ended up with arnold schwartzenegger as governor. california, there are 19 states where you can do this. all you need is about a quarter of the people that supported trump to sign a petition, and they've done that. this is the sixth recall attempt since i've been governor. and i've only been governor 25 months. so it's a short period of time. this is serious for many different reasons. the uncertainty of being on the ballot, and also the folks behind it. let me be more candid and direct. the principal sponsor of this wants to put microchips in immigrants, what they call aliens. and here's, joy, what we should be more concerned about it. it has a lot to do with me, and with everybody watching. it has to do with our values as democrats, the rnc is the second largest donor to this effort. the huck pac, mike huckabee, newt gingrich, devin nunes, are behind it. so, yes, i'm taking it seriously. >> you just described a lot of people who are doing some counter factual things with covid. you have seen the video of people flipping out in stores, not wanting to wear masks. how do you get people vaccinated with this going on? >> not just the largest state, but the population of 21 states combined. dealing with the diversity across the spectrum, incluing ideological diversity. anti-maskers, anti-vaxxers, but we're dealing with the vestiges of the last year-plus. where we had so much intentional information about face coverings and masks. and now, the mixed messages that the former president, donald trump, is sending as it relates to his own efforts to get vaccinated, but without the light of any camera or day. that is leading to more complexity. and in six weeks, we'll go from scarcity in vaccines in this country to abundance. so the challenge is to convince those that are hesitant. it turns out the most difficult may indeed be political in the context of an ideological frame, not just a racial and ethnic frame, as was previously predicted. >> and california is diverse in what it offers resource-wise, too. we did a list of how many sports teams you have. you have disneyland, and universal. how open will they be by july? >> we have 3% positivity. there are only three states with lower positivity. our case rates are among the lowest per capita in the nation. we're reopening, but thoughtfully and strategically. mindful of the variants. and we're tracking six in california. not just the uk, brazil, south african, but other ones. 37 counties have moved to the less restrictive tier. and i imagine by july, if our vaccination rates continue, we continue on the pace that we've been, i have all the confidence that the vast majority of our economy, still with modifications, will be open. including sports venues, appropriately outdoors with the appropriate modifications in mind. >> i have a lot more questions. so i'm going to ask you to stick around after the break. i want to ask the governor about his plans for dealing with the migrant surge at the southern border. creating a new crisis. and that will be right after the break. stay with us. break. stay with us [sfx: rainstorm] ♪♪ comfort in the extreme. ♪♪ the lincoln family of luxury suvs. this is an athlete, twenty reps deep, sprinting past every leak in our softest, smoothest fabric. she's confident, protected, her strength respected. depend. the only thing stronger than us, is you. 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