the election. mitch mcconnell is threatening to scorch the earth if democrats get rid of the filibuster. later i'll be joined by the perfect guest to discuss the intimidation tactics, harry reid. he has a lot to say about mitch. we begin with ron johnson continues to dig a hole for himself. he's doubling down on his experiment in making the quiet part really loud. last week when he said he would be more afraid if the violent insurrection on january 6th was led by black lives matter protesters. >> on january 6th, i never get threatened. i knew those were people that loved this country and truly respect law enforcement, would never do anything to break a law, and so i wasn't concerned. now, had the tables been turned, this could mean trouble. had the tables been turned and president trump won the election and those were tens of thousands of black lives matter and antifa protesters, i might have been concerned. >> it's no surprise that the remarks provoked justified accusations of rracism. here's senator bob menendez today. >> i get no one likes to be called racist, but sometimes there's just no other way to describe the use of bigoted tropes that for generations have threatened black lives by stoking white fear of african americans and black men in particular. one of our colleagues to cast those who attack the capital as harmless patriots while stroking fear of black americans is like rubbing salt in an open wound. raun johnson says the left is trying to silence him. he's saying so in an op ed. it has 3 million readers. ron johnson wants us to believe the united states senator and a darling of right wing media, a salary of $174,000 a year, he wants us to believe that he is being censored. far from silent, ron johnson is on a media blitz to defend the indefensible. he's done three interviews from yesterday. even though he said his remarks would get him into trouble, he said he's surprised anyone would think of him or his comments as racist. >> i completely did not anticipate that anybody could interpret what i said as racist. it's not. there is nothing racial about my comments. nothing whatsoever. >> it's completely been blown out of proportion. there was nothing racial in my comments whatsoever. >> i think it's pretty obvious and true and even innocuous statement that i made, never anticipated that they would turn that into what they always turn the debate into, racism. and why did you say you knew they would get you in trouble, ron? not only is ron johnson trying to play the victim. he's defending his ridiculous assertion that black lives matter is scarier than the violent mob of armed insurrectionists. the people who love this country and law enforcement. it happened to have a noose with them when they strolled into the capitol to hang mike pence. he's trying to concoct a left wing conspiracy equating black lives matter with the usual right wing boogie man like antifa and the radical left. he writes we should all be disgusted at the way others hide befind the banner of equality. he said it's about riots. they were united by the radical leftism. the column is incoherent, honestly. for example, ron johnson cites the unrest in kenosha as some of his alleged receipts but leaves out kyle riten house, the teenage militia member reportedly with the bugala boys. he was the violent one that is charged with double murder. far from being the aggressors, black lives matters protesters are often the victims of right wing violence including in louisville, kentucky. there's no evidence that others arrested in kenosha even identified with the loosely organized anti-fascists they hate so much. in fact, there's been nothing to confirm that antifa or radical leftists are responsible for anything ron johnson describes. as of october according to the ap, the only mention of antifa in court documents was in a single case. on the contrary, there's ample evidence that right wing -- including one who killed a federal officer in oak lapd and used the peaceful protest as cover. none of that is of interest to senator ron johnson. he would rather portray those of all races who dare to seek racial justice as the villians and not the megamob who tried to overturn the election. i'm joined by two guests. clint, i'm going to start with you. there's a long history of people like ron johnson pretending that civil rights was actually a conspiracy to hurt or kill white people. that's the way that it worked in the 1960s when jay edgar hoover sicked the fbi on people like dr. king, on civil rights activists, claiming that they were conspireing and often there were anti-semitic relations with jewindish communists. how is what ron johnson doing different than that? >> it's fascinating. in september of 2019 i testified to the committee that senator ron johnson was on, and what he was most concerned about was that there was no discussion of the extremism as being right wing. that was his big concern that day. he just saw it as there are extremists out there and let's talk about all sides of it. that was the entire point of his lecture that day. yet, you could point to it and say well, they are wearing donald trump hats. you would think that was logical but that's what it was. it's a two-year campaign essentially trying to create equivalency which is not there. there's no evidence to support it. and at the same time, this is somebody who is providing oversight by the way of the department of justice. providing oversight of something like the department of homeland security. providing oversight of what is a very dangerous phenomenon which is local law enforcement members having dual membership with a lot of these groups. essentially we see white supremacists, government militias. we can't have government law enforcement equal for all people in america. >> another way to look at it is he's trying to undermine the investigation because he like donald trump sees the people as part of his base. you've got all the way back to charlottesville. the only time you saw antifa was when they were in fistfights with nazis. can go through michigan, the same groups that say they're going to kidnap the governor. go all the way through the bugalu boys. this is cut three from my producers. remember this. this was a black lives matter protest. this is in minneapolis. this is during the george floyd protests. the person breaking glass and starting trouble and we saw so much of this, were not black lives matter people who were filming this guy. another right wing guy. he finally gets identified. he's a white supremacist. this kind of libel against black lives matter in your view, angela, what is the point of it? >> wem, it's the traditional boogie man strategy. we know from ages of political strategy that there always has to be a bad guy. in this instance it is the labeling of black lives matter as antifa, communists as dangerous as black. black in and of itself is the boogie man in this country. so you see whether we call them dog whistles or fog horns now, when they say things like well, i know they're patriots and love this country, now that is all of a sudden code for domestic terrorist, maga hat wearers and confederates. you saw the trump 2020 flag interchanged with the confederate flag and substituted for an american flag on the hill that day on january 6th. so for ron johnson to say you know, he wants to talk about riots? well, then let's. let's talk about riots in fact let's talk about how police officers would turn a blind eye to what happened on capitol hill. would turn a blind eye to racial uprising and riots from domestic terrorists who look more like ron johnson than me or you, joy. let's talk about riots and let's talk about the outcome from the riots. most of all, let's talk about what it means to really protect black lives in this country and stop with the dangerous labeling. that's what we really need to talk about. >> you know, and angela, staying with you for a moment. you were talking to people the day of the january 6th insurrection. did any report that ron johnson walked out and met the rioters in he was running with everybody else. as far as i can see, he was running, not standing there and having a little elocution with his friends. >> yeah. no, joy. i think the reality of it is so many of them did not know what was going on. they knew who was there. but you know, there is this convenient misremembering of what actually happened. and now the fact that these folks were patriots and were just upset and i wanted to go out there and say i feel your pain. no, you didn't. you didn't know who was coming in, how they were getting in and there were a lot more eugene goodmans who helped save people like ron johnson and many of his colleagues. it didn't matter your party that day. people were trying to survive and figure out what was going on whether you were on the republican side of the aisle or the democratic side of the aisle. everybody got the same alerts on their cell phones telling them to shelter in place, to stay where they were because they didn't know when these folks or how these folks were going to get in the building. that's the truth. he can have whatever kind of convenient memory he wants. but the truth is racism is as racism does. that's what it did on january 6th. >> clint, let's talk about this investigation. 90 0 search warrants. 15,000 hours of surveillance and body camera footage. 210,000 tips. 80,000 witness interviews. 300 suspects charged. this is like the largest investigation that we have seen in modern u.s. history. in your view, how far does this go? you were doing a long tweet about the lengthy investigation about russian attacks on our election. we got a lot of detail. are we going to get this kind of forensic detail on this, do you think, ultimately? >> i do, joy. one of the funniest things about this scenario is for these perpetrators is they're also the anti-mask perpetrators. there's an overwhelming body of evidence of the acts they committed. i mean, we know who they are. we figure it out all the time. the other thing you're starting to see from the fbi is criminal complaints they're lodging is they are using evidence that is being gathered from other people that are being arrested from other search warrants they're doing and electronic surveillance. you're watching up the threads of evidence now. this is how you build toward a conspiracy case. we also see in several cases particularly the proud boys and oath keepers, two investigations that are scaling. meaning there's communication, resourcing, coordination. you're seeing all the elements that could be a broader conspiracy case. this will go on for months. watching the public reaction, yes, they want justice. for the fbi to do this many arrests in such a short period, to go through that many thousands of hours of footage, to go all around the country and just identify these people where they're at, arrest them, bring them in, i can't imagine a case load that's been larger any time in u.s. history, really, than what they have to manage right now. even after 9/11, and devastaing attack. lots of evidence and recovery, you were looking for 19 hijackers. in this case the fbi and all the state and law enforcement are looking for thousands of americans ultimately to try and bring them to justice. i know america wants this to come to fruition, but this will go on at least the rest of the year i would imagine. >> yeah. let me take chris wray, the fbi director who testified last year about the threat of white nationalist terrorism. this is what he said. >> what i can tell you is that within the domestic terrorism bucket, category as a whole, racially motivated violence extremism is i think the biggest bucket within that larger group, and within the racially motivated violent extremism bucket, people ascribing to some kind of white supremacist type of ideology is certainly the biggest chunk of that. >> a real quick response from both of you. clint, first to you and then angela. how prepared is the federal government, do you think, for this threat going forward from your point of view, clint, and also from your point of view, angela. how prepared are black lives matter and black voters? they're confronting potentially deadly violence. >> across the government, i'm sure they're over capacity. now they have to investigate a crime that happened on january 6th and trying to preempt a scattering anti-government and conspiracy based threat. they could use a lot of support from the senate homeland affairs committee that drags him out there to testify. >> quickly, what i would say to you, joy s the there's a role the government has to play in preparing these groups who are doing the work of the lord. trying to ensure that people can vote, that people can survive and that people can thrive in this country. the folks who built this country. what we really need to see is a response from local, state, and federal law enforcement by info sharing and the same people, right, who are on capitol hill on january 6th, that means some of them can't be a part of law enforcement agencies because they're not sharing information to the good and for the protection of the groups who do the work every day. they're sharing that information to cause harm. you saw that as exhibit a on january 6th. so in addition to information sharing and coordination with all those government entities, they have to get people in there with the right intention. that's the bottom line. >> yeah. indeed. indeed. angela, clint, thank you both very much. appreciate you. up next on the reidout, long overdue relief for struggling families is starting toarrive. we'll talk about what needs to happen next, including the 15 minimum wage. clearly mitch mcconnell is really worried the democrats are going to reform the filibuster. >> nobody serving in this chamber can even begin to imagine what a completely scorched earth senate would look like. yeah, we can. harry reid has thoughts on that and he'll join me live. and republicans pivot from anti-mask to anti-vax. that's just part of their deadly stew of misinformation. even worse the premature push to declare the pandemic over encouraging everyone to get out there and party. 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that doesn't reflect the reality on the ground. 7.3% of pennsylvanians are unemployed as of january. 30% of adults have not enough to eat with 30% reporting difficulty affording household expenses. a background provided, the white house notes 20 % of the state's renters are behind on their rent. joining me now is the lieutenant governor john fete eerman. he's running for the seat held by pat toomey. it is convenient pat toomey is doing the drive by hit on his own state on his way out the door. what do you make of the fact that he's not even getting reelected? i don't know what the political incentives were, but he just said no to this? >> let me say we're going to miss pat. we are. and you said it's a liberal wish list. there is a lot of liberal wish list on that. imagine that. people who can't pay rent are going to be able to stay in their homes and people that haven't had enough food to eat during the pandemic are going to get help and a stimulus check for those that have been unemployed. it is -- if you call a wish list, i call that reality. pennsylvania showed up big for joe biden, and joe biden showed up big for pennsylvania today. this is a game-changing piece of legislation. to quote joe biden, this is a bfd. obviously i can't say it, but when that was said about obama care. this is one of the most monumental pieces of legislation in the 21st century, and i'm grateful pennsylvania had a part in that. and pat toomey on his way out is just one last bitter swing at the fact that there's talk about the senate race like you know who can't get elected in pennsylvania? pat toomey. that's why he's going to retire, not because he wants to spend more time taking up a hobby. pennsylvania wants what joe biden is trying to sell and today joe biden honored his commitment to help the everyday pennsylvanian and he did it in a grand slam fashion. >> and you are because you're running for the senate seat i can ask you political questions. here's the thing. pennsylvania has swung kind of. it was a trump state in 2016 for a lot of different reasons and narrowly. and then went back to joe biden who has roots in pennsylvania et cetera. campaigning statewide, i mean, there is a sense that there is particularly a white working class voter who cares more about cultural issues than money. or than the economy. or is that true? when presented with all of the sort of income that is going to come into 85% of american taxpayers are going to get a check of some level, is that actually powerful politics in a state like pennsylvania still? >> well, certainly. there's going to be republicans and people across pennsylvania that are unreachable. for whatever reason they just don't want to be part of mainstream society or they view people in a way that is just -- they're not reachable. but you know, the billions of dollars that the american rescue plan to going to deliver to pennsylvania is going to benefit red county pennsylvania more than blue county and they're going to understand that. some of the hardest hit counties in all of pennsylvania are deep red it's a disgrace not one single republican in our delegation voted for the american rescue plan but eight out of nine of them voted to say that the election was fraudulent in pennsylvania and in this country. i mean, that tells you all you need to know about the republicans right there. and they'll be the first ones to show up at a ribbon cutting or say to their constituents, well, we have this aid and this government, and all -- and my constituents are going to stay in their homes. not one of them voted for their constituents in this bill, but eight out of nine of them voted to say that pennsylvania was -- the election was rigged even though they were on the same ballot. that's your gop right now. >> if you put the $15 an hour minimum wage on the ballot right now, would that pass in pennsylvania? >> 100% it would pass. and that's one of the things about the bill that left me heart broken. this idea that a body of electe