>> if we're not spreading the infection, isn't it just theater? >> no, it's not. >> and you are wearing two masks. isn't that theater? >> no, it's not. here we go again with the theater. let's get down to the facts. >> plus, congresswoman katie porter on covid relief. and adam mckay on his new document deep dive into the origins of qanon. >> trump put this photo on twitter. so, you can see, if you trace the thumbs, they make a q. when "all in" starts right now. good evening, from new york. i am chris hayes. tonight, we are learning more about some of the eight victims of that horrific-shooting spree in the atlanta area, on tuesday. 33 years old, a wife and mother to two children. she and her husband mario were at young's asian massage tuesday for a relaxing-spa day. just to get a little time to themselves. when the shooting began, they were in two different rooms. mario was able to lock himself inside one of those rooms, and escape, uninjured. family members described alana as their rock, who always welcomed people into her home and threw the best birthday and holiday parties. paul andre michaels, age 52, was a veteran from the u.s. army infantry. described by his brother as a hard-working local business owner. even working as a handyman at the spa, building shelves there on tuesday afternoon when the shooting took place. michaels leaves behind his wife of more than 20 years. 49-year-old tan was the owner of young's asian massage and at least one other spa in the area. she was a licensed-massage therapist, herself. she emigrated from china, many years ago, her friend told "usa today." tan, who went by emily, had a daughter who recently graduated from the university of georgia. the friend described her as, quote, the sweetest person you'd ever meet. the first 24 hours after the shootings, the humanity of those victims with was largely obscured while the shooter's was on full display. police portrayed him as a struggling-sex addict having a, quote, bad day. >> he, apparently, has an issue. what he considers a -- a -- a sex addiction. and sees these locations as something that allows him to -- to -- to go to these places and -- and it's a temptation for him that he wanted to eliminate. he was, pretty much, fed up, and kind of at the end of his rope. and yesterday was a really bad day for him, and this is what he did. >> that officer, captain jay baker with the cherokee county sheriff's office, has faced, as you ever probably seen, a lot of criticism for those remarks. perhaps, even more since it was revealed that he posted a facebook -- photo on facebook last year showing a racist t-shirt referring to covid-19 as an imported virus from china. seems like a reference to the former president. that is what an officer investigating the murder of asian-american women thinks that's what he chose to post publicly because he had thought it was funny. it puts, into stark relief, this question that we ever been facing a lot, recently, frankly. which kinds of perpetrators and suspects are seen as full-human subjects? people, who you can model the internal states of. someone who got out of control, or did something unruly or had a bad day. and which perpetrators and suspects are just savages and animals and thugs and violent criminals? republican senator, ron johnson, said it loud and clear after the attack on the capitol. >> i am, also, criticized because i've made the comment that, on january 6th, i never felt threatened, because i didn't. and mainly, because i knew that, even though those thousands of people that -- that were marching the capitol. >> yeah. >> were trying to pressure people like me to vote the way they wanted me to vote. i knew those were people that love this country, that truly respect law enforcement, would never do anything to -- to break a law. and so, i wasn't concerned. now, had the tables been turned and, joe, this could get me in trouble. had the tables been turned and president trump won the election, and those were tens of thousands of black lives matter and antifa protestors, i might've been a little concerned. >> it's all right there, right? in what ron johnson said. all of it. it's who is law abiding, respectful, who you have to be scared of. the inability of so many on the right and, maybe, some of the police officers involved, to conceive the rioters who attacked the capitol, as people who could be violent because of who they were and what they looked like. the failure to prepare for that violence. and the effort of people, like ron johnson, to extend to them the maximum amount of empathy. just like officer baker did to the gunman, in atlanta. keep in mind, january 6th was one of the worst days of injuries for u.s. law enforcement since 9/11. at least 138 officers wounded, and nearly-every single day, brings more evidence about just how brutal the attack was. today, the fbi released new footage of ten suspects. these are people who have not, yet, been apprehended, who say they committed some of the most violent attacks on officers protecting the capitol, that day. and i want to warn you, the video is disturbing. >> [ bleep ]. 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[ bleep ]. p ]. >> that is just a small portion of what the fbi posted, today. that gentleman, there, who, yeah, is a full-human subject, and all kinds of complicating factors but who appears in that video to be beating the crap out of police officers with what looks like a bat. the fbi is looking for information about these suspects. you can go to fbi.gov/capitolviolence. to see more footage like this clip, showing a rioter. nbc news washington also obtained this video today. similar to the previous video from the fbi. where you see rioters attacking officers with what looks like baseball bats. and all this is on top of what we already know happened on january 6th. when rioters trapped this officer in a door, leaving him crying out in pain. they threw a fire extinguisher at a group of police. they tried to steal officers' weapons, yelling, quote, kill him with his own gun. stole an officer's badge and then bury it in the backyard after he was beaten. including one officer who sustained scars under her eyes and officer brian sicknick, who later died. by the way, the rioters did those things, while flying the thin-blue line flags. rioters or even police officers themselves. we know at least nine members of law enforcement were there and have been charged. and after all this, the house held a vote on a resolution, yesterday. to award congressional gold medals to the police who protected them on january 6th. that measure passed but 12 republicans voted against it. they voted against honoring the officers who saved their lives that day, because they objected to certain language in the rez resolution, like the term insurrectionists. it's obviously not about the words. they just don't want to talk about the violent reality of what happened. who did it? there is a lot going on right now. senator tammy duckworth joins me now. senator, it does seem like a fairly uncontroversial and pro forma resolution. what do you make of it? >> well, i'm flabbergasted that there would be those no votes. but unfortunately, in this day and age, i'm not surprised. it's sickening. you know, our -- our capitol police officers, and district of columbia police and the national guardsmen who came to the rescue, deserve all of our upon respect. and i think this is really -- it's incredible they would vote against it and i hope no republicans in the senate vote against but i suspect, unfortunately, there will be some. >> you do? you think there will be no votes in the senate? >> i think there will be some no votes in the senate, yes. and i don't know how you can -- how you can vote against honoring these courageous men and women who protected -- protected us that day. >> i think i struggle, myself, a little bit. with -- with how -- where that -- that day fits in the -- in the national imagination. and i am going to talk to you in -- in a moment about what happened at atlanta. but i do think there is a little bit of a through line of, like, the stories that we tell. the stories about who the perpetrators of violence are and who are its victims and who should be feared and who should not? and there is this kind of desire, i think, by a lot of republicans and conservatives to just kind of never talk about that, again. and kind of, push it out of everyone's minds. >> well, they would like that to happen. remember, the number of veterans who were part of the insurrectionist crowd as well. and in fact, i have had many conversations with secretary austin and other members of the biden administration at dod about how we absolutely need to look at any type of white supremacists that are still members of the military. and how they are being targeted for recruitment by -- by white-supremacist groups and we need to weed this out. >> there is a domestic-extremism report from the director of national intelligence, chds that racially or ethnically motivated and violent extremists, militia-violent extremists present the most lethal threats. with the most persistent and concerning transnational connections. it does seem like there is a kind of belated acknowledgment of the centrality of this in terms of whatever threats there may be for the american people. >> oh, absolutely. and, you know, i think this whole idea of police officer on police officer violence, with those officers who ever been turned by white extremists, is really scary to me. and i know it's got to be scary for the other police officers, as well. to look out -- now, capitol police for example, to look out and realize, hey, these were their brothers in blew, some of whom -- actively serving brothers in blue who attacked them that day. >> you had a tweet in response to the news about the sheriff in cherokee county selling those t-shirts or at least tweeting about them. not only should this racist be fired, we need an independent investigation to find out if his racism influenced his performance on the job to protect all of cherokee county. why were you so upset about that? >> well, i am so upset about it because crimes against asian-americans. hate crimes against asian-americans is an underrepresented-crime group in this country. asian-americans are often the victims of violence based on race, but it doesn't get reported as that. it gets reported as, you know, it's a mugging or something else. when it was really a hate crime, based on race. time and time again and this especially happens to asian women. you saw what happened in atlanta. there is an oversexualization of asian women. and then, viewing them as being more submissive and weaker. so they become the victims of crimes much more often, along with elderly asians. and so, when you have law-enforcement officers, the people you are supposed to turn to for help. who are belittling, you know, the severity of these crimes. then, you have a situation where these crimes just don't get reported. in fact, i issued -- i sent two letters today. one to the fbi director, mr. wray. and one to attorney general garland, asking to, please, conduct formal investigations into the underreporting of crimes against asian-americans that are hate crimes in this country. >> you represent a state that has a large asian-american/pacific-islander population. and i -- i -- i -- i have lived in that state, myself. and i wonder what you are hearing from your constituents. i know i have just been hearing from a lot of people. there's really a lot of fear and anxiety and anger, not before what happened in atlanta. but particularly, in the aftermath of that atrocity. >> there is a lot of fear. i've heard from so many asian-americans across the country. not just in my home state and not just in the city of chicago. we know that crimes against asian-americans that are hate crimes rose by over 150% in america's major cities just this past year. 3,800 crimes were reported this past year. and we know those are underrepresented numbers. i'm so grateful that our mayor lightfoot, in chicago, has stepped up and said that she's going to beef up protection. and -- and -- and patrols in and among asian-american areas. chicago. we are a city of neighborhoods, right? so, you know where china town is. you know where little saigon is. just as in la, you know where korea town is. and so, asian-americans are easily targeted and easily attacked in these communities and there is just a lot of fear right now. >> senator tammy duckworth. testified today at a house hearing we are going to cover in a moment. senator from illinois. thank you so much for taking some time with us tonight. >> thanks for having me on, chris. really was an incredible day on capitol hill today. one republican congressman used it as his own tone-deaf soapbox. >> and that's the reality of what i tend to refer to as the chi-coms. and i'm not going to be ashamed to say i oppose the chi-.coms. >> okay. you are going to want to hear the response from that, including from congressman ted lieu, next. don't go anywhere. acetaminophen blocks it. advil dual action. fast pain relief that lasts 8 hours. managing type 2 diabetes? you're on it. staying fit and snacking light? yup, on it there too. you may think you're doing all you can to manage type 2 diabetes and heart disease... ...but could your medication do more to lower your heart risk? 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>> thank you, chris, for your question. there's actually been a long history of discrimination against asian-americans. in the past, when america felt threatened, sometimes, you would have discrimination against ethnic groups. so we had the whole yellow peril hysteria. you had the internment of japanese americans with the rise of japan in the 1980s and fears of that. you had vincent chin, who was murdered. and now, you have this pandemic causing a surge in asian-american hate crimes. and many in the community have experienced this, and they were expressing it nationally at this hearing and that was a good thing for people to understand. >> you know, katy, i want to -- i want to talk a little about the hate-crime question. because i think it's -- it's category people have a hard time actually getting their arms around. there is an intuitive sense, right, that someone who commits a criminal act out of hatred of a certain-ethnic group is committing it. i want to play you what the atlanta pd said today. and then, get your thoughts about what, actually, we are dealing with legally, statutorily. so, this is what the atlanta police had to say today. >> the investigation into a possible-hate crime. is that still on the table? >> our investigation is looking at everything, so nothing is off the table for our investigation. >> you -- you wrote, today, for us, about the sort of difficulty of these prosecutions. what is your sense of -- of where this investigation sits? and what that bar is to clear? >> well, the spokesperson for the atlanta pd, chris, did the right thing. versus, what we heard yesterday during that press conference with the cherokee county sheriff's department. where they basically dehumanized the victims, humanized the shooter, and basically parroted what could potentially be a false narrative from the shooter, in this case. but, chris, it's really important for everybody to understand that hate crimes are notoriously difficult to prosecute. you know, you think if it walks like a duck, it talks like a duck, it must be a duck. and we get it. we have eight victims of murder. six of whom, are asian and women. and the good news about the georgia hate crime statute, which, by the way, was only enacted last year. last year. georgia was one of only four states in the united states that did not have a hate-crime statute on its books. and effective july 1st of 2020, spurred in part because of the ahmaud arbery murder that happened in february of last year. georgia finally got its hate-crime statu