>> does that end up hurting him enough that elvis's son, nephew, can win? >> you know, that's a good question. you know, how does that translate for folks? to be honest, stepping away from it and being this far, i don't think it will really factor. for a lot of those voters. there hasn't been a lot of blowing up around that. and yeah, it was a scandal. i think -- >> they're blowing up about it. it's hurt his popularity. it's made him very unpopular, tate reeves. >> yeah, but the question is how does that then translate into votes? donald trump is unpopular. but that has him beating joe biden. i'm not going to base my experience in politics. i'm not going to base how a campaign is going to turn out based on who is unpopular. what i'm going to base it on is how reeves and presley are managing their ground game. and how they're managing the vote. and who they're turning out. are they turning out voters who see reeves as unpopular? are they taking advantage of his unpopularity among republicans? and using that to their advantage. so you know, i think, again, smart tactics at this stage in this national election, because this is part of the national election, joy. you know that. >> absolutely. >> so smart tactics at this stage at every level is critically important, and those of us in the democracy space have got to get smarter and quicker and team up faster around these elections so that we are prepared for what's about to hit us when this game really begins afoot in january. >> i'm going to give you the last word on this connie. biden's unpopularity is frightening democrats now. he's not winning in most of the swing state polls. is that something democrats should be concerned about a year out in your view? >> you just answered it, it's a year out. i want to say something. no democrat thought he was the moderate. no democrat ever thought mike dewine was a moderate. this is a national narrative that occurs too often. he had a few months during covid, but i have covered this administration, i have covered him for years. i have covered state republicans for two decades. there is not a moderate among them at this point. we're talking about controlling women's bodies. i was listening to another network briefly this evening suggesting this election will be over and everybody is going to be calm and forget about it. they're so underestimating the rage of women, not just the compassion we have for other women, but the rage we are feeling that here we are, here i am at age 66, telling men still that they have no business trying to control women's bodies. you have not begun to see what we're capable of in this presidential race. >> yeah, i think i have seen some of the numbers out of ohio that the percentage of people who are angry about roe v. wade being overturned is 40%, and those who are dissatisfied, it's like 7 in 10 are either angry or dissatisfied. angry is the highest number. connie schultz, michael steele, basil smikle, thank you very much. steve will be back with us at 7:30 when polls do close in ohio. if you're still in line, stay in line and vote, vote. up next, the worst fears of trump's attorneys become reality as he blurts out an incredibly damaging admission on the stand. who would have thunk it. the latest from the courtroom when "the reidout" continues. cs when donald trump sat for his first deposition last year in new york attorney general letitia james' probe into the trump business's practices he invoked the fifth amendment a lot, nearly 450 times. a smart move however, because it seems any time trump speaks under oath, he can't help bum incriminate himself. it is who he is. yesterday, trump did not invoke his fifth amendment right against self incrimination. and considering that it is a civil triem, it would have been seen negatively by the judge, but perhaps he should have considered it because beyond the theatrics of the day from trump, including attacking both letitia james and judge arthur engoron from the witness stand, trump made a critical admission that is at the tart of the case. trump admitted that the intent in providing the false financial statements with trump's personal guarantee was to induce banks to loan him money. as the new republic puts it, while it might not sound like much, the admission is key to the new york attorney general's case which hopes to prove trump deceived banks and insurers by overvaluing his net weather. trump essentially admitted on the stand these financial documents were produced with the express intent to induce lending where they were likely to secure loans at far lower iert rates due to the overinflated valuation. last week, a banking experts testified those terms likely saved trump and his company more than $168 million. joining me now is andrew weissmann, former fbi general counsel, msnbc legal analyst, and cohost of the prosecuting donald trump podcast. andrew, you know, donald trump's admission on the stand, given the fact that judge engoron has already found for letitia james' office on the substantive questions, seems bizarre. a huge error. is it just that he's got no self control? isn't this case over? >> yes, i mean, in terms of the outcome, i think the only issue is what are the kinds of remedies that the judge is going to impose. i sort of have two thoughts on that. one is, you know, joy, very frequently, witnesses who are not telling the truth may start off well, but as the day progresses, it sort of gets harder and harder to maintain focus on what the truth is and what you're supposed to be saying. and you know, the worst admissions by donald trump all happened in the afternoon. where as he said, in the afternoon, he was like, yes, i agree. the intent of doing this was to induce them to loan me money. he was also asked, by the way, can you say and are you saying now that the financial statements are true and accurate? that should be a softball. joy, if i asked you, did you ever file things with a bank that are true and accurate, you would be like, i don't even remember what they are, but of course i did. >> of course. >> right? he was like, essentially, his answer, i'm paraphrasing, was sort of, i'll get back to you. i mean, like it's a softball and he couldn't just say of course, that's the case. and i think it's because he was thinking, well, i know they're not so i don't want to lie about that. and adhere to what he had said in the morning. i think the other part is he's acting out and his behavior with respect to the judge, to the prosecutors, i do think is relevant in terms of the remedy that the judge has to impose. so one of the things the judge will be deciding is whether donald trump can continue to do business in the state of new york. should he still be here? should he still be banking here, have access to customers in new york? and if you have someone who is so unrepentant, who is so out of control, who so much doesn't care about the rule of law, it seems the judge could easily weigh in his conduct here to say, you know what, this is not the kind of person a recidivist we want to have preying on people in new york. i think he hurt himself substantively and in terms of his behavior. >> people, i think, too often try to assign four dimensional chess to donald trump's actions when he's really a 77-year-old man with no self-control. one of the ways rolling stone was trying to suss out why he was literally yelling at the judge yesterday, this is it, according to two sources familiar with the matter, and another person briefed on trump team legal strategies the former president and his lawyers are intentionally ting to provoke the judge to a nuclear level reaction. several trump attorneys and key allies have advised the more the new york judge supposedly overreacts including remanding trump, the better their case for an appeal will be. what do you think of that? >> as far as overreacted, it's donald trump. i think there's a very good argument that the judge has underreacted. when donald trump for the second time spoke about and denigrated the judge's law clerk, i was very much saying that if you impose only $10,000, you are sending almost a sort of welcoming of it, because you're dealing with somebody who smells out power and that power dynamic. and i thought, if anything, judge engoron was holding his fire and actually trying not to react. and you should know, most judges are very aware that litigants who are losing try that tactic. they try to goad the judge. i don't think he's falling for it. i don't think that strategy is going to work. if anything, attacking a law clerk, i don't think on appeal, those judges, they have law clerks also. so i don't think it's going to work. >> yeah, and it might not be a tactic. he might just not have any self control. andrew, thank you. still ahead, we are moments away from polls closing in ohio. steve kornacki, there he is, he's standing by at the big board where he lives, with the latest. i'm sarah escherich, i'm the life enrichment director at independence village, the senior living community in waukee, iowa. everybody here really, really make you feel like family and that they love you. our goal with tiktok was to enrich the lives of our residents and just to be able to show people what senior living can be like. i think i am a tiktok grandma. my kids think i am. i mean, we're the ones that are being entertained. time goes faster when you're having fun. polls just closed ipohio with voters deciding whether or not to enshrine abortion rights in the state's constitution. and whether or not to legalize marijuana. steve kornacki is back at the big board with the latest. what have you got, steve? >> yeah, we do have in ohio, the polls closing just about right now. in fact, you see that on the screen right there. and the nbc news characterization of that issue one, which would put the right to an abortion in the state constitution and allow for a limit after fetal viability, the decision desk is saying too early to call, but yes is leading on that. that is -- remember, ohio is the one state we have an exit poll in tonight. we're going to look in a minute for returns to tart coming in from ohio. taking look at the situation in the kentucky governor's race, one-third of the vote is in. the overall tally state-wide, beshear almost ten points ahead of cameron. i think a couple things are starting to stand out. one is just we're talking about you get full results from counties, how is he doing relative to how he did in '19? because he barely won in '19. is he at or above the levels of 2019. we're starting to see counties getting close to being all in. starting to see a bit of a pattern where he's running, for instance, in bell county, running about two points above where he finished in 2019. small county, but 95% in. there's about one precinct left there. that's an improvement for him. we're seeing a lot of these counties, they're small, rural counties. a lot are republican counties. here's a big one actually, laurel county is one of the largest plurality producing counties for republicans in the state. more than 90% of the vote is in there right now. cameron is winning it, but andy beshear only got 26% in 2019. 91% in, he's at 31.5%. these are good signs. these are not huge shifts in huge counties in terms of population, but we're seeing a number of counties that come in like this. the other thing on a bigger scale that's encouraging right now would be take the second largest county in the state, say this is where lexington university is, core democratic county, but 85% nearly of the vote is in right now. no surprise that he's winning bill, but sitting at basically 72% of the vote. he got 66% of the vote out of this county in 2019. you take a look at some of the areas right around fayette county, the suburbs of lexington, we have more than 60% of the vote in, and here's beshear at 57%. he got 49% of the vote last time around. so you look at where the state capital is, frankfurt is here, only a third of the vote. beshear is higher. there's a trend he's landing a couple points consistently above where he did in 2019, that's what he needs to do. that couple big turnouts from the core democratic counties. jefferson, by far the biggest county. all we have gotten so far is the early vote out of there, but again, beshear banking a big number from there and the votes to come will still be very democratic, so that's another big opportunity for him. one of the other big counties, warren, where bowling green is. we don't have numbers yet, but that's a county he was able to win in 2019. we'll see what the numbers look like there, and then again, the cincinnati suburbs. now nearly 90% of the vote is in in boone county, where florence is, right outside cincinnati. again, these are pretty large counties as kentucky goes in terms of population. 90% in. cameron leading, no surprise there, but what did beshear get in '19, 41%. with 90% in, he's running above that level. go next door, canton county, only about a third of the vote in. this will come down, but beshear got 49.5% of the vote here, won it by a whisker in 2019. this is where covington is. keep an eye on that. and campbell, we have more than 73%, basically three-quarters of the vote in in campbell county, and there's are beshear at nearly 60%. he got 51.5% in 2019. it will come down some, but these are all encouraging signs for andy beshear right now in kentucky. just reset the leaderboard there, 37% in right now. again, we are seeing in most of these counties where we're getting more than 90% in, some of them are very small, but in most of them, it's small, but it's an improvement from 2019 for beshear. >> i have a question, steve. this is fascinating to me. i'm curious whether beshear is overperforming in some of the red, more rural counties versus his election four years ago? >> yeah, good example is right down here in bell county. you know, 95% of the vote is in. i think there's one more precinct to come. he's running about two points above what he did in 2019. again, this is relatively small county. but again, if you're running two points better, we're seeing this in a number of counties like this, those will add up because what cameron needs, cameron needs to improve on what matt bevin did, the former governor who beshear defeated. if cameron is running well but not as well and i think we're seeing that in the eastern kentucky counties are we're seeing 90% of the vote in, he has to overperform from what beavan did in 2019. so far, we're not really seeing that. >> fascinating stuff. steve kornacki, we're not saying you could never leave the big board, we're just saying don't leave it in the next, like, 12 hours or so. and if you hear of anything, holler. let your producers know and we'll come back. go ahead. >> we just got our first votes in in ohio. on issue one. this is that abortion referendum. this is franklin county, this is a core democratic county. big democratic area. and you see just 3% in. 76% for yes. and then you have stark county, about 20% in. 64% for yes. keep in mind, in ohio, the early vote, the mail vote, gets reported out first. again, if it's a democrat or republican election, you would see the high water mark for democrats. you would expect the initial batch of votes reported in every county in ohio pretty much is going to be the best it gets for the yes side. but again, these are big numbers. now we have jumped to 22% in in franklin county. almost more than a fifth of the vote in in franklin county. 79% on yes, and i can tell you, if we go back and look at this summer, when they had that sort of test vote, where the opponents of issue one tried to raise the threshold to 60% for a constitutional amendment, that went down in defeat. the number there in franklin county was 75%, so this is, again, sitting a little above that. you expect it to come down a little bit as the vote comes in. it's still a core democratic county. you're looking at numbers here that look like they're probably going to fall somewhere close to where they fell this summer. this summer, that initiative to raise the threshold, to make it harder to enact issue one, lost 57/43. so the yes side on issue one has room to fade from their performance this summer, but initially at least in franklin county, big county here, may not be seeing that at all. >> it ain't fading. abortion is still a very, very, very hot issue. women and not too few men are pretty angry about it. steve, please stick around and wave your hand if anything else comes in and when more results come in. up next, a live update as israel continues its relentless assault amid growing calls for a humanitarian cease-fire. after advil. feeling better? 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