campaign. >> he can defend himself in a court of law, but for the purposes of this body, he's gotta go. >> and go, he did. becoming just the sixth member of congress to be expelled from that once august legislative body and further narrowing republicans' already meager majority. >> plus, bombing and fighting resumes in gaza as the temporary trice expires among new revelations when israel learned about a potential october 7th attack. and governors ron desantis and gavin newsom duke it out in a live debate as we learn more about the scandalous allegations swirling around florida republican chair and moms for liberty cofounder kristen ziegler. and we begin tonight with an historic day on capitol hill. the infamous kind. prior to today, only five house members have ever been expelled, all in cases of criminality or disloyalty, aka, treason. three house members were expelled in 1861 for disloyalty to the union. john bullock clark and henny cornelius burnett of kentucky all served in the confederate army. in 1980, michael meyers, no relation to the movie character, was given the boot after he was caught taking bribes in the fbi's sting, and in 2002, james traficant was expelled after his conviction on ten corruption related accounts, bribery, racketeering, and tax evasion. today, for his litany of illegal and unethical behavior, george santos joined that infamous club. becoming just the sixth house member to be expelled in the history of the united states congress. after 11 months of drama, the house finally said good-bye and good riddance to the serial fabulist. true to form, he was defiant to the bitter end, although he tried to appear zen-like about the losing his job thing this morning. >> i have accepted the fate. look, i believe that if it's god's will to keep me here, i will stay. if it's his will for me to leave, i will leave. i will do so graciously. >> yeah, except he really didn't do that. during debate on his expulsion yesterday, he basically dared his colleagues to oust him, and clearly expected the result today, he wore his coat on the floor as the vote happened. 105 republicans joined nearly all democrats in sending him backing. the vote was 311 to 114. leaving the capitol afterwards, he told reporters he no longer had to answer questions since he's not a member, adding, to hell with this place. when asked if he planned on visiting the house floor as a now former member. george santos has aays been a shall we say unique figure, and not just because his entire biography unraveled after he was elected, even though a local long island newspaper tried to sod the alarm. before he was sworn in, it emerged he lied about his education, his resume, his mother possibly dying in the twin tower on september 11th or being there at all, his supposed jewish heritage and being the descendant of holocaust survivors. despite all that, kevin mccarthy welcomed him. santos' expulsion is also unique since he hasn't been convicted of his alleged crimes yet. he faces trial next fall on federal charges of money laundering, theft of public funds, and idon'ty theft. he has accepted responsibility for stealing checks in brazil in a deal to have the charges there dropped. prior to today, he survived two votes to expel him, but his days seemed numbers. he said he wouldn't run for re-election after the ethics committee released a scathing report. that included additional crimes they referred to the department of justice, falsely reporting loans received by his political action committee and using campaign funds for totally reasonable stuff like ferragamo shoes, botox, trips to the hamptons, atlanta city casinos, a honeymoon in las vegas, and onlyfans payments and cash. he will likely have a harder time coming up with legitimate money to cover his champagne lifestyle. he's no longer receiving his salary as a member of congress or a congressional pension since you have to serve five years to qualify. adding insult to injury, office staff have already changed the locks on his congressional office and taken down his name. it will remain the office of the third congressional district of new york until his successor is elected. while this particular avatar of republican party lies and corruption may be gone, the rot goes all the way to the core. george santos' entire political ethos lying, a performative outrage and self victimation is nothing more than a cliff's notes version of the republicans' dear leader, donald trump, except as george santos's expulsion proves, donald trump may have changed the rules, but getting away with crime seems to only apply to him. i'm joined now boo harry lipman, former deputy assistant attorney general, legal affaired columnist for the los angeles times, and host of the talking feds podcast, and rick wilson, former republican strategist and cofounder of the lincoln project. rick wilson y have literally been waiting all day with bated breath, much excitement, to hear what you, my friend, have to say about george santos' expulsion. please, please, please tell us what you think. >> joy, thank you for having me on today because i have been watching the george santos thing, the uppance has finally come for this guy. this is probably one of the most egregious, weird, scumbags that has ever graced the halls of congress, including that one guy from the civil war you showed with the giant facial hair. but this is a truly strange guy who only could be elected in the donald trump era's republican party. there used to be a function of the republican party where the county chairman would say to the national committee, that guy is running. he's kind of a weirdo. you don't want that guy in there. now, the process and the incentives are built to put the weirdos and the criminals in the top of the food chain as long as they're players on trump's radar, and as long as they're good on social media, and as long as they play the fox game, none of it sees to matter. it's remarkable it finally caught up with this guy, even though it was obvious from the very beginning there were things profoundly long with this dude. like from the very start, from the jump, you could tell this guy was going to end up -- i'm surprised he didn't end up with a sniper rifle in a clock tower. he's mad. and the criminality was rolling off this guy in waves. really a remarkable figure for our time. >> and he didn't even have a fun saucy mustache, which might have helped him. harry lipman, there is a sense in which, we laugh about santos, but there is a sense that his just brazen lawlessness, the fact he thought he could take the campaign money he raised from donors and spend it on onlyfans that in my mind can only exist in the world where donald trump gets away with so much crime that people who are in his party and in his milieu believe that's the way it works. it isn't the way it works for anyone except donald trump. for you as a former prosecutor, does it feel to you like the four years we spent watching donald trump literally earn money off a hotel he was leasing from the federal government, which is supposed to not be allowed, and just brazenly violate the law and manipulate the justice department to help his friends and hurt his enemies, that sense of lawlessness to me translates and transfers. what do you think as a former prosecutor? >> yeah, that's why they call him the rick wilson. i don't want to follow him on politics. but first, there is this screaming irony that the party is overall embracing and redoubling in its embrace at every brazen disclosure of trump and yet there was something i think actually rick has a point about there was something strange about the guy and almost sort of junior high terms. he was someone you could kick when you would be scared of trump, the bully. i just want to make two quick legal points, not having any desire to duke it out with rick on the politics. first point is there were some interesting people voting no, saying this sets a bad example, because he hasn't been convicted. and what the house decided to do today is go with their own ethics committee, because whether or not he had been convicted in a court of law, it was a scathing ethics committee report, unanimous, and it mattered the motion to expel was brought by the chair of that committee, a republican. secondly, the point, wow, is george santos in a world of hurt criminally. i think he was holding on by his fingernails, a, for the salary, i mean, he doesn't seem to have a dime. and b, for some kind of leverage of that position. he now can't afford a trial where the charges are going to get worse, and where even if he could pay for a defense, he would be convicted in 90 minutes. i really think he's looking at a straight path to a plea bargain here, and that's what really he had in mind and why the worst for george santos actually has yet to come. >> you're right because in my understanding, he would be better off trying to get a plea deal in office, because they could say if you leave office, then maybe you could get a lighter sentence. >> i don't think he would prosper in prison. >> he could probably entertain everyone and maybe that will make everybody like him very much. i have to do something that i normally wouldn't do because this guy is for lynching. i would normally not play a sound bite of chip roy. i'm not a huge fan of him as a politician, but he did say something i think is actually true and resonant, particularly for you, rick, as a former republican strategist. >> i want my republican colleagues to give me one thing, one, that i can go campaign on and say we did. one. anybody sitting in the complex, if you want to come down to the floor and explain to me one material meaningful significant thing that republican majority has done besides, well, i guess it's not as bad as the democrats. >> rick wilson can you answer this question? >> no, because there is no answer to it. right now what you're seeing is people like chip roy and the people like matt gaetz and people like lauren boebert and all the other crazies, they're turning now on mike johnson, who is insufficiently crazy for their caucus. just process that for a moment, when you have to say to yourself, mike johnson is not extreme enough. those words -- it's hard to make those words come out of your mouth because mike johnson is the furthest right, bizarro world republican you could imagine, and they're complaining he's not doing what they want, which is to burn down washington. what chip is asking for is the government to be shut down. he's asking for draconian cuts. he's asking for the sort of like mad max scenario where the living envy the dead and the world is in chaos because that's what they want. at most he gets to say, we sent santos back to where he came from, but this is a guy, chip represents a really broken brained part of the republican party that believes the chaos and destruction and the economic crisis that they could create in the house isn't being handed to them on a silver platter. if you're part of a party that wants that all the time, if you're part of a party that needs that, that is chasing the dragon of chaos and disruption and economic crisis, you're not really in a party. you're in a cult, and that's why he and so many others are disappointed, and again, when mike johnson is the guy closer to the center than most of the caucus, you know you're in a really alternate universe. >> because he wands the handmaid's tale. that's frightening, the reality is, harry, i'm not going to ask you to comment on the politics because everything they do is because of trump. they don't like ukraine because trump doesn't like ukraine. they want to go after prosecutors because trump doesn't like them. they're literally for him. let's talk about him because he's the reason they do everything they do, the republicans. this argument that's being made, a federal appeals court said trump cannot get presidential immunity on his january 6th civil cases. he still has to meet them. but i want to let you listen to a guy named steve sado, he's trump's lawyer, and he's arguing in the case of the fulton county prosecution for the january 6th insurrection, trump cannot be prosecuted, right, before the election because he's running for president. but if he became president, he also cannot be prosecuted. take a listen. >> can you imagine the notion of republican nominee for president not being able to campaign for the presidency because he is in some form or fashion in a courtroom. that would be the most effective election interference in the history of the united states. >> if your client does win election in 2024, could he even be tried in 2025? >> the answer to that is i believe that the supremacy clause and his duties as president of the united states, this trial would not take place at all until after he left the office. >> heads, you win, tails -- heads, i win, tails, you lose. they're saying he can't be prosecuted at all ever. >> exactly what they're saying, and that's just the phrase i had in mind. and mcafee is a smart guy. i think he was looking at the heads part very carefully. one thing he asked today that was telling, what if there is a change in the federal court schedule? say aileen cannon, how long would it take you prosecution to get up to speed? 30 days. and he also said, you, prosecution, can choose your first group if there's more than one. why does that matter? because, yes, it would be a kind of election interference, but you also call him a criminal defendant with grave charges against him. that's what follows from it. the other point he's making, joy, i'm actually here to tell you, has some oomph in it. were he elected president, it's very possible the supreme court would say you better put this trial on ice for now. meaning, if mcafee is thinking about it, there's all the more reason to try to do this trial before. there's no constitutional impediment, a little inconvenient, but he seems to love it, actually, for him being a criminal defendant while he's running for president. but there would be after. so it really means it's all the more important to get a trial in, this one or january 6th trial, before judge chutkan, in advance of the election. >> because it's clear if he becomes president, he's not going to leave. he's just going to be president until, you know, nature takes its course. this is clear. >> for example, we know what he'll do to the doj, to the country, to the constitution. so would that he would just leave us alone, that will not happen. >> it will not happen. let me go to the other president, his name is joe biden, and there is an attempt, rick wilson, to try to give him the same asterisks that trump has. again, they only do things because of trump. so the asterisk they want to give him is impeachment. the gentleman leading this is james comer. poor james comer. they'll never call him the james comer because he seems to have gotten so played by abbe lowell, hunter biden's lawyer, because he said yeah, let's go ahead, let's do the subpoena, in public. and comer said, no, we can't do that. we don't want to have that. what is the purpose at this point of the impeachment if they have no witnesses and they can't even bring themselves to question their supposed star prosecution witness in public? >> look, i think to begin, we should be thankful james comer is running this investigation because james comer is a man clearly who is easily overcome by inamimate objects. this is a guy who would lose a debate to a toaster oven. i have old pairs of crocs smarter than james coker. this is a guy who really is not a bright man. now, with all that, he still has a staff of attorneys behind him, and they have this idea of law fare against joe biden. however, their case is based on such a tenuous scheme of lies, bs, garbage, fake laptop stories, the entire thing falls apart with even the most cursory exposure to truth. and so they're going to end up with this thing that they thought was going to be their benghazi. they were going to get him in the chair like they got hillary for days on end, and have this rolling set of coverage. even fox news seems vaguely embarrassed by james comer. maybe even not vaguely, maybe profoundly embarrassed. this is an impeachment in search of a fact base and there is none to be had. it's always projection. these people, when they say someone is a criminal, it's because they're criming. if they say someone is corrupt, it's because they're corrupt. and they're projecting this back, all of donald trump's sins back on joe biden to try to muddy the water. it's not working. and the fact that they have a guy who is spearheading this who is probably about as capable of understanding complex multivariant legal problems as i am of understanding quantum physics is a real benefit to the president right now. >> i mean, lilerally, when they say joe biden lent his son money or lent his brother money, james comer literally lent his brother an equal amount of money. >> it's astoundingly hypocritical. >> so embarrassing. harry lipman and the rick wilson. >> all the big developments, the immunity opinion today is huge, very important for jack smith. just wanted to get that in. >> thank you for getting that in. the harry lipman got that in. up next on "the reidout," studying new recording reveals exactly when israeli officials learned about hamas' plans to carry out their attack in israel and why that intelligence was apparently ignored. 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