happy, happy, happy friday! my favorite day. >> i know. >> besides saturday and sunday. it's october 28th. welcome to "american morning." christine has the morning off. >> that game you know, i was so sad, because the yankees were out so early, but, boy, these guy, the rangers and cardinals have really kept this going. good. good baseball. up first, bernie madoff victims are saying don't buy this scam. saying they're having trouble finding sympathy after madoff's wife -- madoff said he's happier in prison and his wife told "60 minutes" the couple tried to kill themselves. the story from our susan candiotti. >> i think anything that comes out of their mouths is self-serving and are lying. >> reporter: richard and cynthia friedman lost their life saving to bernie madoff, so did eileen kent's parents. when they heard ruth madoff talk about a failed suicide attempt in a new "60 minutes" interview. >> i don't know whose idea it was, but we decided to kill ourselves, because it was -- it was so horrendous, what was happening. we had terrible phone calls, hate mail. >> reporter: do you believe it? >> i don't believe it. if it's a madoff, you cannot trust anything they say. >> reporter: assuming that she's telling the truth about taking pills, do you feel badly about that? >> i just can't assume it. i think anything that they say is extremely self-serving. ruth has been quoted in the past as saying that she's very concerned about the victims and feels awful and feels terribly. well, why reopen the wound three years later? >> reporter: victims scoff at barbara walters distribution of her abc bernie madoff interview. he says he's happy in prison, because he feels safe there. >> for 16 years he has lived in fear that he was going to be found out, and now he's not in control of his life, and so he is happier there than he was on the outside i. was very much against sending him to a -- a maximum security prison. because i felt that would be revenge, not justice. but he's really just snubbing his nose. snubbing his nose at the stip and us. >> reporter: then steph li mazeoff whose husband mark committed suicide last year depressed over his father's crime. >> if i saw bernie madoff right now, i would tell him that i hold him fully responsible for killing my husband, and i'd spit in his face. >> reporter: so every time you hear an interview, every time you read an article involving an interview, what goes through your mind? >> i had a visceral reaction. i really feel sick to my stomach. >> i wish we could get that kind of publicity to people understand who the victims are. they're everyday people. >> reporter: you're hearing people ask them a lot of questions. do you have any questions that remain in your mind that you'd like to ask them? >> if i knew that bernie madoff would actually tell the truth for a change, i would say, why? how? and who helped you? >> reporter: for victim, there are many questions they feel will never be fully answered. prosecutors have not charged madoff's children nor his wife. she's living in a borrowed home in south florida. susan candiotti, cnn, new york. to politics now and gop presidential candidate newt gingrich saying president obama's pulling a madoff. yes, that's what he said. he's pulling a madoff with his latest student loan plan. gingrich with an education forum in new york went after part of the president's plan that would forgive outstanding student loans after 25 years of payments. >> i'd like to see the department of education become a research and information center. i'd like to see us reprivatize the student loan program before the president bankrupts the entire country by promising every young person, you will not have to pay your student loan as a student, however, you will later on have to pay off the national debt as a taxpayer. i'm being good to you. before you fig ter out you're paying it off as a taxpayer but you'll re-elect me because of your gratitude because you won't be paying off yore loan. which is a ponzi scheme. >>suggest head may skip some's the future debates. santorum will be there. >> i would never skip a debate. i never skip the opportunity to let the american public know what i think about these issues. >> perry nosedived in the polls after a series of stumbles onstage. right now committed to a november 9th debate in michigan. none after that. at many as 18 more gop debates are in the works. >> crazy, that he's not debating or there are 18 more? what's crazier? cain is surging in the poll, now in the bank. cain's chief of staff, mark block, that's him, the smoking guy from the ad told our erin burnett, fund-raising picked up raising $3 million in october. >> we've actually doubled in a little over a month, and that's what we're seeing in our grass roots activism growth. >> cane contain finds himself at our near the top of all national and state polls right there with mitt romney. >> you know where he is? he's in alabama. going to a game tonight. unusual campaign. >> running an unusual now, mich tea party card carrying candidate. ned ryan says she's not a serious candidate and her campaign is more about michele bachmann. bachmann is the leader of the tea party caucus in the house of representatives. she's dropped to the bottom of the polls after an early jump. cnn reached out to the campaign but did not get a response. it's the biggest "what if" of the 2012 race that will likely never happen, but what if hillary clinton ran? a new "times" survey shows she would do better than her boss, president obama. in fact, totally blow out mitt romney 55% to 38%, clobber rick perry and herman cain, both by more than 20 points. >> wow. looks like john edwards goes on trial in january. a judge rejected a motion by edwards attorney to dismiss his criminal indictment. he faces felony and misdemeanor charges for allegedly violating campaign contribution laws and could get 30 years behind bars and a $1.2 million fine. ending in violence sparked by the disqualification of six people's petition candidates who had already been declared victorious. an independent commission overturning results for what it calls funding issues. angry demonstrators setting fires to the movement. the moderate islamist party that turned out to be the big election winner. a rebel from eastern turkey. a 13-year-old found alive after more than 13 days. more than 500 people killed in sunday's earthquake. the mayor apologizing after police tear gassed wall street protesters and put an iraq veteran in the hospital. city officials started an investigation into the use of force. >> i am deeply saddened about what happened last tuesday. it totally didn't turn out the way we wanted it to. people were hurt, and i am the mayor, so i take responsibility and i apologize to those who were hurt. >> veteran scott molson suffered a skull fracture in the violence after a tear gas canister hit him in the head. this shows him bleeding and being carried out. he will need surgery to relief pressure on his brain. the 125th anniversary dedication. a special naturalization ceremony to welcome 125 new citizens to america. also a macy's fireworks show and brand new web cam installed on the torch during the face-lift. giving new yorkers a stunning look at the harbor. >> should be fun. world series game six, one for the ages. the st. louis cardinals wait to downed their final strike scored two runs in the ninth inning two more in the tenth giving them a tie against the texas ranger and then won it on david freese's home run in the 11th. the score, 10-9. >> there is goes. >> unbelievable. >> it sets up a seventh and deciding game between the cards and rangers tonight in st. louis. it's the first time since 2002 that the world series has gone to a seventh game, and there is nothing in the world more fun than a seventh game in the world series series. >> i know. i like the way david freese ran into that crowd of cardinals. that was cool. >> something there. >> interesting. still to come, the cold front that took texas by surprise could mean snow -- yes, snow -- for the northeast this weekend. rob has the forecast, next. and the widow of the ohio man who released dozens of exotic animals won't be getting them back anytime soon. what the state is doing to keep the animals in a zoo. the smartphone tracker washington says has gone too far. the battle against stocking apps, ahead. it's ten minutes past the hour. 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[ male announcer ] the same 117 elements do the fundamental work of chemistry. ♪ the difference, the one element that is the catalyst for innovation, the one element that changes everything is the human element. ♪ i tell you what i can spend. i do my best to make it work. i'm back on the road safely. and i saved you money on brakes. that's personal pricing. it is 15 minutes past the hour. welcome back to "american morning." state of ohio steps into stop six exotic animals from going back to the pens where they were released last week. the widow of the man who freed 56 pets before killing himself wants to take custody of the remaining animals. animal conservationist jack hanna told cnn's anderson cooper, the animals are just now recovering and there's no way they're going back to those cages. >> there's no way over my dead body, it might be that pretty soon, those animals are going back there to the same conditions. >> he says if he has his way, a new law in ohio would prevent 90% of people who try to keep exotic pets on their property from doing so. the family of 11-month-old lisa irwin missing near lay moshgs the parents cancelled an interview with baby lisa's two brothers home on the night she disappeared. jared and deborah bradley still refizing to be interviewed separately by police. and michael jackson's consider, conrad murray on track to go to the jury next week. the propofol expert, their last and most important witness, will be back on the stand today. our report this morning from cnn's ted rowlands. >> reporter: ali and carol, when court resumes we expect nor testimony from dr. paul white. he is the star witness for the defense in this case. it is up to him to try to convince the jury that michael jackson may have accidentally killed himself. we got a little bit of that from white during his testimony on thursday. >> i was somewhat perplexed as to how the determination had been made by essentially all of the experts that dr. murray was infusing propofol, because in my examination of the documents and the evidence that was described, it wasn't obvious to me, and i thought that there were questions if, in fact, murray had administered the drugs that he described in his conversations with the police department and the doses that he described, i would not have expected michael jackson to have died. >> reporter: before dr. white took the stand the defense put on an addiction specialist. the reason for this witness to establish for the jury that dr. conrad murray wasn't the only one treating michael jackson in the months before his death. this addiction specialist was also a physician, went through the medical records of dr. arnold klein, and established for the jury that michael jackson was given a lot of demerol. >> have you considered -- i understand based on records alone -- have you formed an opinion about whether or not by may 4th at least, or even earlier, that michael jackson was dependent on demerol? >> yes. >> what is that opinion? >> i believe there's evidence that he was dependent upon demerol. >> what about addicted? >> possibly. >> reporter: janet jackson was back in court today leading the jackson contingent inside the courtroom. we expect that closing arguments in this case will now be pushed to next week, because of all the delays that we've seen this week. ali, carol? >> all right. ted, thank you. mexican resorts on the riviera boarded's thus morning. tropical storm rina could drop up to ten inches of rain over the eastern part of the yucatan peninsula today. tens of thousands evacuated in cancun and cozumel. the storm is expected to fizzle out before reaching the u.s. coastline. it was supposed to be one of the driest years on record in amarillo. now the texas panhandle is cleaning up after a huge snowstorm broke a 100-year-old record. just over three inches by the time all was said and done. meteorologists you know, like rob marciano say it's not -- it's unusual, but not unheard of. >> let's talk to him. big weather story this weekend, probably the chance of some snow like you just saw in october in the northeast. rob is in atlanta with a striking orange tie. >> yeah. i like the theme there, ali. >> we're getting into halloween a little early. >> that's right. exactly. happy halloween, everybody. a chilly one for folks especially across the northeast and in cases a white one. you saw the video ever the whiteness in amarillo. white conditions across parts of massachusetts and vermont and upstate new york yesterday. from four to seven inches from this little system that rommed through the area. obviously the area was cold enough for snow there. but a more impressive system gathering strength, and it has prompted the issuance of winter storm watches from maine all the way down to virginia. two to five inches above 1,000 feet along the appalachians and then three to six expected across parts of interior new england. associated with this system that will be rolling up the eastern seaboard bringing rainfall to parts of the tennessee valley. this would get into atlanta as well and some of the rain or some of the moisture from rina getting up into florida. hats about it as far as rina is concerned for us. new york metro, showers creating a little bit in the way of delays. how the storm gets to the delmarva, intensifying, a nor'easter, first one of the season and not only rain potential, three to six inches of snow across areas of interior new england, new york, the suburbs might. boston on the back side will see wet snow as well. the problem with the storm is going to be there are still leaves on the trees. so you get three to six inches of wet snow, that's going to bring down tree limbs and knocking out power. that's the big issue with this particular storm. briefly on what's going on with rina. right over cancun, the center of the circulation. you see the moisture strewn up towards florida. the actual track of this is to go farther to the south and diminish completely. so big road block in the gulf of mexico in part because of the storm systems rolling up the eastern half of the country. bringing very winterlike weather for this halloween weekend. >> oh. that so stinks. >> come on. you know what, ali? carol was poo-poo the market rally. now she's short and does not have enough winter gear. >> exactly the way we need to look at this. >> it's not the winter gear. >> talk about your 401(k) after the show. >> i like that. it's your chance to "talk back" on one of the big stories of the day. the question this morning -- should cities prevent occupy protesters not from protesting but from camping out? if you're a protester, the answer's a cinch, right? no. camping out is a form of unity, organization and protest. for city, it's expensive. for police -- tense. especially in light of what happened in oakland. as oakland police tried to clear out occupy oakland protesters, scott olsen, an iraq war veteran was injured. protesters insist overzealous police lobbed a tear gas canister into the crowd hitting him in the head. oakland police are investigating. and in new york, the sergeant the benevolent association say several officers were injured trying to keep order in zanotti park. >> we warned them, did not arrest them. my feeling was that this was escalating, and escalating oust control. >> many protesters are incredulous. they say chaos ensues only when police try to rob them of the right to protest. >> rerestrain ourselves just by getting into what looked like they could be or what the police were prepared to be hostile situations. we've successfully remained a peaceful protest. >> so the "talk back" question for you today -- should cities prevent occupy protesters not from protesting but from camping out? facebook.com/americanmorning. facebook.com/americanmorning. we'll read your comments later this hour. all right. coming up, are you worried that your bank might start charging you for using your debit card? some banks have already, and some banks are not, however. details for you after the break. and, no more of them's the old spaghetti for brains. haunts houses have become much more sophisticate and successful than ever. our rob marciano goes zombie to show us what's scary. it's 21 past the hour. 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"minding your business" this morning, big rally 0en wall street. news on a debt deal and a relatively strong report on economic growth here in the united states pushed markets higher yesterday. the dow gained 2.8%. nasdaq up 3.3%, s&p 500 closed 4 3.4% meyer. the s&p 500 up about 13% so far this month. two more days of trading left. optimism over the eurozone deal is losing steam. u.s. stock futures trading lower ahead of the opening bell. criticism that deal doesn't map out a clear path to recovery and may not be enough to help europe avoid a recession. home appliance maker whirlpool announced it's cutting 5,000 jobs. amounting to 10% of its workforce. whirlpool is the parent company of several house hod names like kitchenaid. hewlett-packard decided not to spin off its pc business. it was considering getting rid of one of its core businesses. ceo meg whitman who took over last month says they're changing their mind. keeping the pc business, the right thing to do for customers and shareholders. a month since bank of america announced its controversial debit card cities. looking like most of the other big banks are opting not to follow suit just yet. the "wall street journal" reports this morning that jpmorgan chase, citigroup and keycorp decided not to charge customers for debit services. and korean company samsung giving apple a run for its money. surpassing them in global shipments in the sheard quarter making it the largest cell phone maker. sales jumps 34% from the second to third quarter and profits doubled from nearly a year ago. 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