almost anything could blow it sky high. especially if this turns out to be true. >> we think that there had to have been some sort of support network for bin laden inside of pakistan. but we don't know who or what that support network was. >> well, senator kerry today downplaying those concerns, saying there's no evidence of a network that kept bin laden hidden for five years. the pakistanis claim they're investigating, but they've got a credibility problem in this country because even before the investigation began pakistan's interior minister flat out denied the possibility that bin laden had pakistani protectors. >> in your investigation have you found any evidence that bin laden had a support network here in pakistan? >> there is no such thing at all. even not an iota of doubt in the mind of -- >> so you categorically deny that he had a support network here? >> no support network. >> the interior minister, by the way, once flatly denied any pakistani connection to the atax on mumbai, india three years ago. >> very close to the metro theater. >> more than 160 people died in those attacks, including six americans. the minister later conceded, well, the attacks were partly planned in pakistan. and soon in a courtroom in chicago the government's star witness against one of the alleged plotters is expected to tie the attacks directly to the isi, pakistan's intelligence service. that's the same isi accused of supporting elements of the taliban in afghanistan, that cut a deal with -- a peace deal with the taliban in pakistan. that american commanders have told us is protecting taliban leader mullah omar, who they believe is currently living in, you guessed it, pakistan. and of course the isi harbored knowingly or unknowingly osama bin laden for years just down the road from their military academy. pakistani lawmakers recently passed a resolution condemning the u.s. raid that killed him but not the fact of his comfortable existence in their country. they're also condemning the u.s. drone strikes on suspected militants. that same resolution demands that those drone strikes stop, even threatening to cut off supply lines to american troops in afghanistan if drone strikes continue. the u.s. upped the ante by conducting another strike today, a drone strike killing ten. it's the fifth drone attack in the last ten days since the osama bin laden raid by president obama. that's triple the pace of drone attacks since before bin laden was killed. there's a lot to talk about with stan grant, who is in islamabad, pakistan for us tonight. and in new york cnn national security contributor fran townsend. she's also a member of the department of homeland security and cia advisory committees. also retired cia officer and 9/11 commissioner member michael hurley, who spent years tracking osama bin laden. fran, it may be a day later and a dollar short, but is the return of the helicopter significant? >> well, it is. it is, anderson, in a sense. but let's compare it to what we know already. we got access to the bin laden wives, but the isi was there, of course, and we didn't -- they were all together in a group, which was not the way we would have done it. we've got this tail. and it is important. what you'll find is american officials will take the tail back, compare it to the photographs that we've often shown of the tail section, and try to make sure that we're not missing any pieces, that there was nothing left behind that the pakistanis could reverse engineer or that they could still share with the chinese. >> stan, do we know -- i mean, it's possible, stan, the pakistanis have, as fran said, reverse engineered this already, studied the technology. >> yeah. we don't have any confirmation of that at all. but it's part of the mystery. part of the unanswered questions with this. you just outlined what i hornet's nest we're talking about here. you know, john kerry had one simple message to pakistan. he said, you need to decide what sort of country you're going to be, whether you're going to be a haven for terrorists. it's almost a moot question. pakistan is a haven for terrorists. osama bin laden was here. pakistan has hosted militant groups for decades now. it's part of the very fabric of the country. and at various times pakistan has either attacked or accommodated those groups depending on its circumstances and its capacity. what john kerry's looking for here, though, is support from pakistan to meet america's ends. and that is across the border into afghanistan. he wants pakistan to be able to disrupt the leadership of the militants here, to block off that border, to make america's efforts in afghanistan easier and eventually be able to draw down the troops. but anderson, it's so difficult because pakistan immediately after the osama bin laden raid, rather than look at what its own culpability may have been, was pointing the finger directly back at the united states, accusing it of infringing on its sovereignty. and that's where we get to this trust issue, the trust deficit between the two countries, anderson. >> michael, do you think it's possible that bin laden did not have a support network in pakistan? and if so, what kind of support network do you think he might have had? >> i think it's very difficult to believe he did not have a support network in pakistan. i think someone must have been helping him. it struck me that he seemed to think he was very secure in that redoubt he was, in the compound he was in. >> you're saying someone in the government or the isi or the military or civilians? >> i think it may be possible. it may be possible that it may be retired intelligence people or military retired people as well. i think it could be coming from a number of different directions. but it seems fairly clear to me that there was some degree of support. >> fran, what do you make of the fact that you had all this anger from pakistanis over the past few weeks about u.s. strikes and raid, you have the parliament saying there shouldn't be any more drone strikes, and yet drone strikes are actually up significantly since the bin laden raid? is this just the difference between what, you know, pakistani officials say for local consumption to soothe anti-american feeling or to kind of placate it and on the other hand they're still cooperating? >> you know, anderson, i think we all expected that the parliamentary resolution was partly rhetoric meant for their own domestic consumption. but it really is extraordinary. not only the increase but the fact that one of the drone strikes happened today while senator kerry was visiting. we shouldn't read too much into the timing. it was clearly operationally driven. there's reports there were ten militants killed. there happened to be a meeting. there was a targeting opportunity. but the clear message out of all of this from the united states to pakistan is we will continue to use drones and we will continue to target militants that threaten the united states regardless of what your parliament says and regardless to your objections on the basis of national sovereignty. >> michael, the drone strikes have been critical. there have been a large take of them under the obama administration but even the waning years of the bush administration there was a significant growth in them. they've been critical so far, and if they stopped that would be a major blow in our efforts to kill terrorists, yes? >> it would be a major blow. they've done some significant damage to our adversaries there, to the taliban and al qaeda. and it's been an important tool in our counterterrorism efforts. and i think to stop those would really inhibit our progress there. >> stan, secretary clinton's heading to pakistan soon. do we have any sense of what' u for discussion in that trip? >> yeah, before she even comes here, anderson, there are several steps to go through. there are a couple of officials from the state department, also a cia official as well coming here in the next week or so. they're going to sit down with their counterparts and try to work through a process, either tick some of the boxes before hillary clinton actually arrives here. and anderson, the key to all of this is getting pakistan to sign on to what america wants. you know, the united states pumps a lot of money into pakistan. we talk a lot about trust. we talk a lot about the relationship. it's not really about either of those things. this is a transaction. america puts money in here. it wants to see that it's money well spent, that it actually gets a return for that investment. and before they get to the point of hillary clinton coming here, they want to see that those steps are actually in place, anderson. >> michael, there's a trial happening in chicago right now which is really fascinating. i don't think a lot of us, the media or americans have paid that much attention to it but it's likely in that trial, it's about the mumbai attacks, the terror attacks, and it's likely that the isi, the pakistani intelligence service, is actually going to be implicated in the planning of the mumbai terror attacks. if that is in fact what happens, that would certainly seem to inflame an already tense situation. >> if that in fact does come out, i think it's going to be very, very serious, and it depends on the level of detail and who is identified in particular. it will inflame the situation definitely. and the indian government of course will be -- will be right to take some real umbrage at that. >> and michael, why would the isi be involved in something like that? why would they be involved? >> well, i think it's probably individuals and maybe a certain part of the isi that might be involved. we'll see what comes out in the trial. but if they are, they're going to have to be rooted out and removed from those services. the pakistanis can't keep playing this double game. >> we're going to leave it there. michael hurley, stan grant, fran townsend. we appreciate it. let us know what you think. we're on facebook of course. you can follow me on twitter, @andersoncooper. i'll be tweeting tonight. what syria's brutal dictatorship is doing to try to divert attention from the fact they continue to kill their own citizens. and a shocking new discovery that's been made about what they may be doing with the bodies of those they kill. you've got to see this. we'll talk tonight to an incredibly brave woman in syria. she's on the run right now, being hunted by government thugs. her husband who's been taken, arrested last week, hasn't been heard from since. tonight she risks her life to speak out. jill dougherty joins us as well. and later, a banker to the world and a man talked about as the next president of france potentially, well, he is spending tonight in a new york jail on sex charges. could put him away for years. allegations he sexually assaulted a maid in a $3,000 a night new york hotel room. tonight, what we know about what happened inside that hotel. what we don't know. and also how police tracked him down. he was about to board -- he was on a flight about to fly to france. let's also check in with isha for an update on what she's falling. isha? 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[ yelling in foreign language ] disturbing to watch. but we think it's a microcosm of so many other incidents that we have seen. the many are trying to retrieve the woman's body without getting shot themselves. she appears dead, though we can't be certain. reaching the other man, who was on that motorcycle, is harder. first they use a rope to pull the motorcycle out of the way. watch. [ yelling in foreign language ] [ gunfire ] those people on both sides of the street risking their lives to try to save this person, or at least retrieve his body. we don't know if the person left in the street is alive or dead at this point. in the next part of this clip you'll see one of the men throw some kind of metal pole across the street where people we can't see are also trying to reach the man. [ yelling in foreign language ] >> you hear them crying "god is great." they were eventually able to pull that person back inside off the street, out of the way of the snipers. it's impossible to tell if the man, though, is alive or dead. that was on thursday. an adviser to the syrian dictator bashar al assad telling dissidents that security forces were under orders not to fire on protesters the next day. well, the next day they did, killing protesters, killing mourning -- killing mourners, killing civilians. so many dead and wounded are taken away in fish carts. according to the assad regime, these protesters are foreign agents or criminals or killers themselves. that's what the regime claims. but we know by now and we have seen it week after week. the regime lies. elsewhere on sunday protesters say troops shelled the down of talkalek, killing seven. and over the weekend a new twist. what many are calling an attempt to shift global attention away from the mass killings. about 100 palestinians living in syria were allowed to get up to a border fence with israel. and israeli troops killed four of them as they tried to breach the border fence. we'll talk about that shortly. first, though, the other part of what human rights watch is calling the ground war against ordinary syrians. hundreds arrested, including relatives and neighbors of government critics, including the husband of a woman named rezan zeituni. the husband was taken last week. he hasn't been heard or seen since. i spoke with reizan tonight. she is in hiding, fearful for her life, but determined to speak out because so many of those she knows and supports have already been taken and have already been killed. i spoke with reizan earlier tonight about today's grim discovery. >> reizan, a gruesome discovery was made in daraa, as many as 20 bodies, possibly more, found in a shallow unmarked grave, including a woman and a child. what's the latest you've heard about what happened there? >> we're still getting information. actually, we heard that it's more than one massive grave. until now it's three got discovered by people of daraa. and in areas around daraa, the city today. in one of them there was the bodies of a whole family, of a father and all his sons. and actually, after that, the mother, when she heard about this news, she had a heart attack and was dead today. it's a tragedy in the whole -- we couldn't imagine that such crimes which was committed in '80s will be committed again these days in the front of the whole world with all this media, with all this international attention, but it happens, actually. >> for weeks now that we've been reporting on what's going on in syria we've heard from people like yourself and protesters who have said that the government is trying to take bodies of people they've killed to deny a proper burial with their family, a burial that might become a protest movement in and of itself. do you think that this is what they've been doing with the bodies that they've taken? >> that could be part of it. i think the dead people could be tortured and killed during the torture, could be killed during the bombing and shelling on the cities, and during their escape because the areas where they were found, it's around the city of daraa. some people, eyewitnesses we talked to, they say they think people, while they were trying to escape from the city they got shot and killed. and then their bodies was -- were collected and buried at these places. >> in the town of talkalakh the syrian army has i. been indiscriminately shelling civilians this weekend, driving residents to try to get across the border into lebanon. what have you heard about the latest going on there? >> it getting worse, actually. today we got news that more and more people got killed, more than 150 person got injured in critical situation. they cannot take them to hospitals. they cannot give them the medical emergency treatment and more and more people are trying to run away to the lebanese side but the security continued to shoot them and shoot to the lebanese side in an attempt to prevent more people to escape that place. we also keep hearing about the security shooting the soldiers who are refusing to participate in attack and killing of civilian people. >> we see a video of a mother and her son who were shot on a motorcycle. and people are risking their lives to try to save them. and those people are being shot at by syrian authorities. what does that video tell you? what does it show? is this the kind of thing happening all over syria? >> every time we get some stories for the first time we cannot imagine, even we can't see it by our eyes. but it's really repeated again and again. >> and with that we lost our connection with razan. we continue to try to re-establish contact with her about an hour ago. we were unable to. we hope to continue talking to her in the coming days. again, she is in hiding. her husband has been taken last week. and she has not gotten a