Transcripts For CSPAN Politics Public Policy Today 20110930

CSPAN Politics Public Policy Today September 30, 2011



>> so not everybody shares the idea that this is the model of -- >> well -- >> well, let me finish. in the european community there is a discussion whether one should do that or not do that. >> i don't think anyone is involved in a blame game. we need to know the capacity exists to address it and that decisive, forceful action needs to be taken. i don't think that is a particularly controversial observation. it is certainly not meant to be. it is a global economy and we need to work collectively with our allies and partners around the world in europe and elsewhere to help it grow and to prevent the kind of problems. on monday the president will hold a cabinet meeting at the white house. on tuesday the president will travel to eastville college in texas to urge congress to pass the american jobs act now to keep teachers in the classroom, rebuild our schools across the nation, and put money in the pockets of working americans while not adding a dime to the deficit. on wednesday the president will host the president of honduras at the white house. the president looks forward to addressing a broad range of topics at their meeting. the president also welcomes the opportunity to underscore the strong bonds of friendship between the american and honduran people. also their return to the american states this year. also the president will welcome the women's ncaa championship team. on friday the president will welcome the chicago bears to the white house. later in the afternoon, the president will host the prime minister of tunisia at the white house. during his meeting, the president looks forward to expressing his strong support for two nearbyia -- tunisia as well as areas of mutual interest. the president also welcomes the opportunity to highlight the strong bonds of friendship between the american and tunisian people. >> did you individually invite the players or the team? >> i honestly don't know. >> what were the circumstances? >> i'm sorry. well said. [laughter] [captions copyright national cable satellite corp. 2011] >> we welcome your comments on how you feel about the targeting and killing of a u.s. citizen. if you called in the last 30 days, make sure you allow other people to call. we want to start with bringing you the statement by president obama this morning about the killing of al-awaki and kahn. >> earlier today anwar al- awalaki was killed in iran. the death of a leader of external operations for al-qaeda in the arabian peninsula. in that role he took the lead to murder innocent americans. he attempted to blow up an airplane on christmas day, 2009. he directed the failed attempt to blow up u.s. cargo planes in 2010. and he repeatedly called on individuals in the united states and around the globe to kill innocent men, women, and children to advance a murderous agenda. the death of al-awlaki represents the death of al-qaeda forces. this is a victory for forces that have worked with the united states over several years. al-awe milwaukee -- al-awlaki's hateful receipt restrict has been rejected by the vast majority of muslims and people of all faiths. he met his demies because the -- demise because the government of yemen has joined forces with us to stop al-qaeda. going forward we will remain individual lent against any threat to the united states or our allies or partners. make no mistake, this is further proof that al-qaeda and its affiliates will find no safe haven anywhere in the world. working with yemen and all of our allies and partners, we will be determined, deliberate, relentless, resolute in our commitment to destroy terrorist networks that aim to kill americans and to build a world in which people everywhere can live in greater peace, prosperity, and security. >> president obama earlier today commented on the killing of anwar al-awlaki and semir kahn. on the line from minneapolis is richard from our democrat's line. caller: what i wanted to say, what can you do when they go against your own country, you know? if any of us did that, you would expect the same thing. what i was going to say is, on cnn they were talking to al-awla kifment's father, and he couldn't believe he would do anything like that. he was trying to bridge between the west and the muslim world, trying to bridge the gap between them so they could understand each other. how can you do that when you have fanatics that don't like your country and they think you are evil and they think you are trying to control the world, and you are not. host: next up, botavia, illinois. caller: i shed no tears for this terrorist. having said that, i find it deeply troubling that obama would use extra-judicial measures by mortgaging american citizens. let's not forget, this guy was not even indicted. this was an impeachable offense. he can't go around murdering american citizens without a trial. host: greg, ron paul, the congressman, termed this killing an assassination. do you agree? caller: yes, i agree with him on this point. host: our democrats line is next. john in waukegan. hi. caller: yeah, i have a comment. it is not about attacking u.s. citizens. when you have killers running around in this country and they track them down and they get caught in a building and they shoot the heck out of a building and kill them, what's the difference? if they are traitors, they are traitors. get rid of them. host: "the new york times" reporting about the killing this morning. nytimes.com. "u.n. al-qaeda leader killed in yemen." part of which reads "the strike appeared to be the first time in united states-led war on terrorism since the september 11, 2001, attacks that an american citizen had been deliberately killed by american forces. a step that has raised constitutional issues in the united states. it was also the second high-profile killing of an al-qaeda leader in the past five months under the obama administration which ordered the american commando raid which killed osama bin laden in pakistan last may. that's this afternoon in "the new york times". republican line. caller: i think he's a domestic enemy. when we say foreign and domestic, that's what this guy is. that's in my opinion, i don't see anything wrong with it. i don't think we should rejoice in killing others. i think that's another issue. i think we should make it clear to the world, i guess, that it isn't necessarily a pretty thing to be killing people. these are combatants. i think it's ok. host: next up, florida. neal, independent. caller: just basic commentary regarding the killings, quote, unquote, in yemen. i think we fail to realize and remember, after all where was timothy mcvay born? look what he did in oklahoma city. terror is terror. the question of due process does arise and the sense of, well, say, he was one of us. once you cross that line and alie yourself with al-qaeda and other groups of people throughout the world who seek to undermine, destroy, and kill innocent americans, due process is not applicable. again, to reiterate, timothy mcvay was one -- mcveigh was one of our own. i was embarrassed and ashamed at that point in time to be an american to think that one of us did this to his own people. host: washingtonpost.com writes "at the northern virginia mosque where al-awlaki preached, some had yet to publicly embrace the anti-american extremism that would make him a target of u.s. drones." that's from washingtonpost.com. here's thomas, independent line. welcome. >> thank you. thank you for taking my call. while i am glad he was gone, al-awlaki was an american citizen. the administration attempts to bring to trial foreign detainees who were not citizens of the united states. now is it the law in this united states that a u.s. citizen can be murdered without due process while noncitizens will have a trial? thank you for allowing me to speak. host: thank you for calling. this is eddie on our democrat's line. caller: hey, there. how are you doing? i'm a veteran since 1970. i think a job well done. once he crossed the line, he was not an american. he was killing americans, wanting to kill more americans, and no way. job very well done, mr. president. thank you very much. host: a couple comments on one of our twitter feeds -- if you go to twitter.com, you can see what members are saying. "the killing of al-awlaki is a significant blow to al-qaeda and its recruiting in the united states." another saying, "we are safer with him dead." and more comments from members of congress at our twitter feed at twitter.com/cspan and click on the list there. ernie next on rur republican line. caller: thank you for your courtesy, and as far as i'm concerned, i'm glad they got that guy. but let me tell you something, better not go to sleep because there are more of them running around. i'm a veteran, 81 years old, and i am a veteran of the korean war. i smelled bad apples long before they got to me. that's how i survived in korea. i did not vote for the president, but i would pin a medal on him at this time for this. because of the constitution, this guy didn't believe in the constitution. he didn't care less about the constitution. he was a traitor. a whole bunch like him should be taken out. period. god bless you. host: ernest in san antonio, texas. thank you for all your calls. we appreciate you weighing in on your thoughts. you will be able to see the white house briefing later in our program schedule and also on our web site at c-span.org. we have more live from the white house this evening. now, rick miller -- perry holding his first town hall meeting live at 6:00 p.m. eastern. >> he founded several labor unions and represented the social party of america as candidate for president, running five times. last time, from prison. eugene debs made history. tonight at 8:00 p.m., "the contenders." get a preview about deb, and watch some of our special programs about him at c-span.org/thecontenders. >> tenure creates an atmosphere where people can speak. if you don't like a proposal that the board of trustees or the president makes, you have to be able to speak freely about it. administrators ought to be able to as well. that will shared governance is important. >> cary nelson the author of "no university is an island" sunday night on c-span's "q&a." >> always start with the assumption that they are not telling you the truth. >> he's an eagle scout, trected and produced three of the top-10 grossing documentaries of all times. his latest a memoir called "here comes trouble." sunday your chance to call and tweet michael moore on c-span2, "booktv." >> the british house of lords, a debate on climate change. those attending included representatives from kenya and other areas. d trinidad and tobego. this debate in the british house of lords is two hours. >> i'm delighted to welcome you here to the chamber of the house of lords. many of you i will have met before, yesterday and the day before. but not all of you. and so this is a good occasion for me to see you all together. and i do so warmly welcome you. now, i think you all know what it is we're here for. but you'll for give me if i perhaps go over it a little bit more. i am frances d' souza. i was recently elected speaker of the house of lords. my work today is to moderate the debate. but the work is going to be all yours. i want to reiterate that we will have two speakers, the prime minister leading the opposition to speak for and against -- don't forget what motion is. but this house really is that the commonwealth land should reduce its carbon emissions by 100% by the year 2050. then we will open it up as a free for all so that you will all have a chance to put your views and have a comment and you can ask questions of the speakers. the most important thing, the most important thing, is that you all keep to time. and i think you'll recognize that reason for that is because it allows everyone a fair chance to express their view. i'm absolutely delighted we have here representatives from the house of commons who i extremely welcome. and i rather hope that they will be here at the end of the session so that they can perhaps say a few words about who they are and what they do and who they represent. and we also have a representative from the house of lords who will be familiar to all of you. thank you very much for coming. so without more adieu, let me invite the opening remarks first of all from the prime minister, young democratic party who will speak for the motion. >> thank you, lord speaker. fellow youth par lemt aryans, we are assembled here today to debate what is arguably the single greatest threat our species has ever faced. it is important, however, to remember that climate change is not the only problem facing our nation. youth unemployment, migration of highly-skilled workers, economic diversification, food security and pollution, they all pose a serious challenge to the fabric of of our society and to the governance of our country. climate change is not an isolated problem, and its solutions are not isolated solutions. this is not just a grave threat but also a golden opportunity, an opportunity to diverse fire our economy and build a prosperous future for our people. an opportunity to solve the problems in our society and build a secure future for our children. and an opportunity for our nation to rediscover the ambition upon which it was founded and lead the world into a carbon-neutral future. now, many of you will see the 100% figure and say, this is impossible. it is unachievable. but i say, give hope a chance. we can develop a green economy. we can create highly-skilled jobs for our educated young people. and we can work with the private sector to develop new ways of combatting climate change. make no mistake, this is not an easy task. but neither was achieving our independence and founding a new nation. we will need all the options on the table, including carbon taxes, carbon trading, reforestation and renewable energy sources as well as many technology sources which have not yet been developed. so today, i invite you to take this opportunity to the heart of this institution, and let it guide the good governance of commonwealth land for the decades ahead. is it ambitious? yes. is it a challenge? yes. is it achievable? absolutely. >> the leader of the opposition, matthew crowe, progressive youth allowed to speak against the motion. >> thank you, lord speaker. i want to begin by congratulating the prime minister on his remarks and for bringing this debate to the floor of the house. i don't suppose it's going to surprise honorable members opposite very much that we are in broad agreement with the principle of a target reduction in emissions. we're the progressive party. and what we believe is that we can go further with this proposal. we're suggesting, as i'll move on to talk about in more detail, that the 100% reduction is brought forward 10 years to 2040. my lord speaker, the progressive youth alliance acknowledges the severe risks of climate change. and i welcome the prime minister's comments on a multilateral solution which will not focus solely on climate change in itself throughout this debate. my party's become used to lending its policies to the government, so if i could suggest that we move on with interand mid-term targets. i'm surprised the prime minister didn't choose to mention that. these are ways, of course, of holding such a state to account and allowing this parliament to have a say on how we reach the target that is put forward. so we've been looking at ambitious, front-loaded targets. we believe this is the best way to progress in line with the u.k. stern report. by front loading the prime minister will be aware that changes have to be less serious to meet the 2020 peak. so we'll be looking at a 2020 target of 40% reductions. it's ambitious we know. a 2030 target with a further 30%. and a final 30% target for the 2040, bringing us to the 100% overall. we wanted to front load these as i explained because it's going to put forward a pressure which is hard at first. and we acknowledge that. but it's an opportunity for us say after the 2020 peak our party to be able to really reduce the pressure. we're obviously very concerned about investment in renewable energies. we've not heard a lot from the government about that. we'd be looking -- i'm sure we're going to be asked about funding. so we're going to be looking at international investment loans from the development mechanism. china's taken a similar theme of around 8 billion. lord speaker, before we hear any more from the opposition, on the effects of climate change and legislation on business which i'm sure they'd like to raise, i want to assure them that it's our concern as well. we are the party, progressive indeed, but we also have the concerns of business at heart. and we agree that it's with business that these solutions in the private sector can be found. the opposition -- the opposing party must accede in this debate that this will not be solely a focus on energy emission but also private sector business and that we will acknowledge significant contributions from the non-energy emissions sector. and we didn't hear a lot about that from the government, either. lord speaker, my party is the progressive force in this chamber. and what's more, beyond any claims that the prime minister may make, my party believes in this proposal. our manifesto said it and i will deliver it. >> hear hear. >> hear hear. >> we now come to the part where you will all have an opportunity to participate. let me remind you once again, please say who you are, do not go beyond two minutes. who is going to begin? >> the gentleman there at the back in the gray suit, and then after that. >> [ inaudible ] i fully support for the reduction of carbon emissions by 100%. however i put to you, lord speaker, that by 2050 is far too short a time to do it. in and i feel this parliament will fall short of these targets. and i would like to ask the prime minister exactly how he propose toss cut by 100% by 2050 as he proposes. >> on the front bench there, you stood up. >> yes. [ inaudible ] from the youth democrat party representative of australia. lord speaker, this is a debate about whether the commonwealth land is a leader or a follower. the experts tell us that an emissions reduction target by 40% by 2020 globally is needed. we need a carbon-neutral economy by 2050. this is what the ipc c and their 2400 experts told us in their fourth assessment report. we need a global plan to limit emissions -- to limit emissions and to limit the temperature increase by less than two degrees. commonwealth lands, reducing our emissions, will not reduce global temperatures. however, we can and we should play a part in global action. we should bewarery about developing economy status. we should bewary of our vulnerable industries and bewary of industries moving out of commonwealth lands, moving overseas and setting up places in places where they do not have the environmental regulation standards, where they do not have the strict controls that we as a socially responsible country put on our business and our industry in commonwealth land. commonwealth land should not introduce measures that will adversely impact on commonwealth lands 14 million low and middle-income households. so what does this mean, lord speaker? this means we need a fundamental shift in the economy of commonwealth land. we need the greatest microeconomic and macroeconomic reforms to achieve a 100% reduction in emissions by 2050. we need a carbon tax. and this is exactly what this chamb chamber legislated yesterday. we need to achieve the interim and final targets. i support clean investment in clean energy and research development. commonwealth land needs to lead the world also in taking global action. as a newly-formed country, less than 50 years old, we need to show other developed countries that it is possible to reduce our own e

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